# Ukraine.... your predictions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 22, 2014, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948 "2014-02-22T13:05:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/21 "2014-02-22T15:15:35Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > For sure the American president seems to have it in for Jews and Christians! My prediction is that you will continue to spout nonsense that Obama is a secret Muslim with members of the Muslim Brotherhood in his cabinet out of one side of your mouth while spouting nonsense about US foreign policy being dictated by the Zionist entity out of the other side while failing to see the contradiction. I also predict you will continue to do this using large fonts and dramatic colors. ---
**Author:** ![Henrichek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5daacb/32.png) [@Henrichek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henrichek)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/22 "2014-02-22T15:29:39Z")
While I haven’t read or heard the rabbi’s words, Muslims are not really part of the equation in this conflict. What Jews in Ukraine are worried about is most likely the prominent neo-nazi and far-right rebel groups (such as the Right Sector and parties like Svoboda) who have precipitated much of the violence in the last few days. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/23 "2014-02-22T15:29:54Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > My prediction is that you will continue to spout nonsense that Obama is a secret Muslim with members of the Muslim Brotherhood in his cabinet out of one side of your mouth while spouting nonsense about US foreign policy being dictated by the Zionist entity out of the other side while failing to see the contradiction. I also predict you will continue to do this using large fonts and dramatic colors. Seconded. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/24 "2014-02-22T15:33:12Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > and other will say 2 million Those others will be incorrect or lying. Please cite your 2 million number or retract it. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/25 "2014-02-22T15:33:35Z")
According to CNN the Ukrainian Parliament just votes unanimously to remove Yanukovich from office. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/26 "2014-02-22T16:05:17Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > look at every major conflict and one country name always appears Mordor. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/27 "2014-02-22T16:08:36Z")
My prediction? Putin moves to annex strategically critical areas of Ukraine…and quickly ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/28 "2014-02-22T17:15:41Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > My prediction? Putin moves to annex strategically critical areas of Ukraine…and quickly You don’t think he’ll wait for the Olympics to be over before launching an invasion? But seriously, for all the posturing I doubt Putin wants to really reignite the Cold War in earnest. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/29 "2014-02-22T18:15:58Z")
I suspect Putin thinks of events in the Ukraine as an internal Russian matter. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/30 "2014-02-22T18:46:30Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I suspect Putin thinks of events in the Ukraine as an internal Russian matter. That’s the feeling I get when I hear Russia’s thoughts on the matter. Nothing so diplomatically catastrophic as coming right out and saying it but still…the language doesn’t \*feel \*neutral. There are also groups on the Crimean peninsula that are asking Russia to step in so they have a quasi-humanitarian excuse right there. I predict tears before bedtime on this one. What I really hope is that the moderate Euro-facing factions prevail. That is their best hope. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/31 "2014-02-22T19:08:31Z")
“Tymoshenko, Tymoshenko, se enojo con Napoleon porque Napo le decía que el LICEO es el campeón” -Old high school sport song from the old country. Well, Napoleon lost in the end, latest reports mention that an opposition unit took control of the presidential palace outside Kiev on Saturday, as Ukraine’s president, Viktor F. Yanukovych, fled the capital. Ukrainian opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko has been freed from the hospital where she was held under prison guard for most of the time since her 2011 conviction. > **[Ukraine: Tymoshenko freed as president denounces 'coup' - 22 February as it...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/22/ukraine-crisis-uncertainty-after-yanukovych-signs-deal-live-updates)** > > Former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko released from prison as president Yanukovych disappears and police leave the streets of Kiev ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/32 "2014-02-22T19:14:08Z")
Tymoshenko is apparently en route to Maidan Square from the airport to lay flowers at the site of Thursday’s massacre. You can watch it streaming [here.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbQC7_TNQPw&feature=share) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/33 "2014-02-22T19:26:38Z")
What’s the deal with Tymoshenko? What was she arrested for, and why was she being held in a hospital? ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/34 "2014-02-22T19:33:07Z")
You can find a brief summary [here.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko) Basically, it’s widely believed that her prosecution was politically motivated. BTW that hairdo is straight out of Slavic folklore. She supposedly slipped a disc, which is why she was in the hospital. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/35 "2014-02-22T19:34:35Z")
Tymoshenko is speaking right now in the Square. You do not need to speak the language, it is an incredible and amazing historic moment to see. ---
**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/36 "2014-02-22T19:37:07Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > What’s the deal with Tymoshenko? What was she arrested for, and why was she being held in a hospital? She was arrested for abuse of power, concerning a natural gas trade deal between Ukraine and Russia, but I believe it’s basically been agreed all around that the court was biased and looking to lock her up - the only real obstacle before to her release was Yanukovych, but he’s not exactly a factor at this point. The reason she’s in a hospital and not jail is becasue she was diagnosed with [spinal disc herniation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_disc_herniation). ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/37 "2014-02-22T19:41:25Z")
Indeed, the live feed shows her speaking passionately while she is on her wheelchair. While it is true that he was in the hospital, the reports mention that she was under guard in the hospital with no freedom to go to any other place. ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/38 "2014-02-22T19:44:11Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > "Well, Napoleon lost in the end, latest reports mention that an opposition unit took control of the presidential palace outside Kiev on Saturday, as Ukraine’s president, Viktor F. Yanukovych, fled the capital. You can see some photos of Yanukovych’s compound [here.](http://zyalt.livejournal.com/1007568.html) Check out the gold banknotes in his image, his initials everywhere, and well, the galleon. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/39 "2014-02-22T19:45:12Z")
Ddammit! I’m at work and can’t listen or watch live. :mad: I’ll have to find footage when I get home this evening. btw, did anyone else notice that things came to a head shortly after Pussy Riot showed up in Kiev? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948/40 "2014-02-22T19:55:05Z")
What exactly is going on in the live feed? I don’t speak Ukrainian, but the camera is focusing on the crowd, where there seems to be streams of hospital workers or police walking through the crowd? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-your-predictions/681948.md?page=3)