# Ultimate Cheeseburger: RUINED. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 15, 2002, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939 "2002-08-15T01:55:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2002, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/21 "2002-08-15T23:42:20Z")
It doesn’t bother me at all, I’ve always ordered mine with ketchup. Now I can save one second at the drive-through speaker because they already know what I want. ---
**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2002, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/22 "2002-08-15T23:45:21Z")
They didn’t run ads. The jack in the box I go to told their customers when they ordered stuff, under corperate direction about it. Or so the manager told me. Other than that, the huge ass signed saying, “NEW BETTER BUGERS” caused me to ask what was changed. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2002, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/23 "2002-08-15T23:55:54Z")
I’m always upset when a burger comes with mayo by default. Ew. I think it’s me against the world on that one though. ---
**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2002, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/24 "2002-08-15T23:57:46Z")
> [@](#): > > “NEW BETTER BUGERS” :eek: ---
**Author:** ![musicguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@musicguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/musicguy)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/25 "2002-08-16T00:30:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CRorex \* > \*\*They didn’t run ads. > > The jack in the box I go to told their customers when they ordered stuff, under corperate direction about it. > > Or so the manager told me. > > Other than that, the huge ass signed saying, “NEW BETTER BUGERS” caused me to ask what was changed. \*\* Well, nobody said anything to me. And the sign you speak of only made mention of “Thicker Bacon, Better Buns, and Moister Beef”. Not a word anywhere about ketchup. ---
**Author:** ![DougAB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DougAB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DougAB)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/26 "2002-08-16T00:45:39Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m always upset when a burger comes with mayo by default. Ew. I think it’s me against the world on that one though. Not so fast. Although I think it’s tasty, I can’t get myself to eat a burger with mayo on it. Damn health minded self. I know, I know, it’s the huge chunks of fat that I have to worry about, not the mayo, but still… ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/27 "2002-08-16T00:52:44Z")
It’s not just you against the world, **BlackKnight**. I’ve always been a no-mayo person. I never liked mayo. I like my cheeseburgers with ketchup and mustard only. Bless you BK and Hardee’s (I suppose Carl’s Jr. does the same thing now they merged, but I don’t know for sure coz that’s west coast hippie food), for only putting ketchup/mustard/pickle. Pull off that pickle, no need to special order, which I try to avoid because no matter what the ad says it definitely does upset them, and causes me to wait. Well, excluding Wendy’s where they make everything after you order it, that’s the place to go for special orders. Jack in the Box has always been pretty good about their mayo though, they never go overboard with it. I can handle the mayo on thier chicken sandwich, but anything I’d want ketchup on shouldn’t have mayo on it. Frankly, the last thing I need right now is to start enjoying yet another fatty condiment on my burgers, so I’m determined to resist mayonaisse with all the strength of my will. ---
**Author:** ![Dravin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dravin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dravin)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/28 "2002-08-16T02:29:00Z")
> [@](#): > > I like my cheeseburgers with ketchup and mustard only. I like mine plain, no ketchup or mustard, just give me a bun, a patty and cheese (preferably lots of it.) ---
**Author:** ![Synnove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Synnove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Synnove)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/29 "2002-08-16T03:11:39Z")
Just please, please tell me they haven’t changed their taco. Best damn tacos in the world. Mm. Oh, how I hate living in a city without a Jack-in-the-Box. Only 3 weeks until I can have a JitB taco again! _salivates_ 'Course, it’s probably a good thing I can’t eat there whenever I want 🙂 Ketchup on the Ultimate Cheeseburger is just plain wrong. I’m sorry. It wasn’t meant to have ketchup. If it was meant to have ketchup it would have evolved that way. Haven’t these Jack-in-the-Box people read the Origin of Species? ---
**Author:** ![CMScoby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@CMScoby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CMScoby)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/30 "2002-08-16T06:56:46Z")
Ketchup, no ketchup… I don’t understand it, but if they’re smart, this is what they should do: Throw on another meat patty, smother that bad-boy in bacon, nix the ketchup, and bring on the BBQ sauce! God, please don’t make me go to Carl’s Jr. and order a Bacon Western double cheeseburger… anything but that! ---
**Author:** ![musicguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@musicguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/musicguy)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/31 "2002-08-16T07:15:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Synnove \* > \*\*Just please, please tell me they haven’t changed their taco. > > Best damn tacos in the world. Mm. Oh, how I hate living in a city without a Jack-in-the-Box. Only 3 weeks until I can have a JitB taco again! _salivates_ > > \*\* A slight hijack but can somebody clear this up? My understanding is that there is no beef in a Jack in the Box taco. Only a beef flayored soy product. This doesn’t seem correct but it the oddest paste. Not bad at all, just strange. ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/32 "2002-08-16T07:27:22Z")
Seriously, that is some fucked up shit, man. I don’t eat meat anymore but when I did the UCB was my #1 all-time erotic food experience. (Re: the calories – I used to order it cut in half, then save half for the next day, lol.) BBQ Sauce?!?! CMScoby, what is WRONG with you?!?! ::vomit smiley:: ---
**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/33 "2002-08-16T14:07:35Z")
BBQ sauce is great on burgers! I love the Smokehouse Burger at Ruby Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/34 "2002-08-16T14:19:17Z")
I’m gonna make me some chicken-fried bacon for lunch. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/35 "2002-08-16T14:28:23Z")
I don’t understand the problem. I love ketchup on my burgers. Mayonnaise? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; mayonnaise on burgers is a sign you’re a philistine and a worthless human being. And having mayonnaise on your FRIES means you’re either a Communist or a child molester. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_The\_Diver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Buck\_The\_Diver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_The_Diver)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/36 "2002-08-16T15:56:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RickJay \* > \*\* > Mayonnaise? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; mayonnaise on burgers is a sign you’re a philistine and a worthless human being. And having mayonnaise on your FRIES means you’re either a Communist or a child molester. \*\* BRAVO! You, sir, are an eloquent defender of all that is true and good in fast food. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/37 "2002-08-16T18:27:59Z")
_applauds RickJay while laughing and trying not to spew coffee over the keyboard_ ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/38 "2002-08-16T18:42:56Z")
I don’t normally like Mayo on my food, but on the Ultimate Cheeseburger…well, it achieved a kind of perfection. I don’t know about the Tacos - I’ve never had one from JitB. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/39 "2002-08-16T19:00:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by musicguy \* > \*\*Well, nobody said anything to me. And the sign you speak of only made mention of “Thicker Bacon, Better Buns, and Moister Beef”. Not a word anywhere about ketchup. \*\* The commercial with Ronald McDonald says, and you have to pay attention 'cause it is hard to hear, “tasty new sauces”. If that isn’t taking liberty with marketing, I don’t what is. Also, I happen to like mayo on fries. Is that OK if I only promise to molest communists? ---
**Author:** ![herownself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8baadc/32.png) [@herownself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/herownself)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/40 "2002-08-16T21:16:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BlackKnight \* > \*\*I’m always upset when a burger comes with mayo by default. Ew. I think it’s me against the world on that one though. \*\* Mayo: The White Death [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939.md?page=3)