# Ultimate Cheeseburger: RUINED.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 15, 2002, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939 "2002-08-15T01:55:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/41 "2002-08-16T23:24:35Z")

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> And having mayonnaise on your FRIES means you’re either a Communist or a child molester.

What about tartar sauce with your fries? For some reason, that’s recently become a common practice her in the Pacific Northwest (although I don’t do it).

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/42 "2002-08-16T23:48:06Z")

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I like my burgers WITH mustard and WITHOUT ketchup. Mayo is optional, but if I’m going to have it, I want lots of it. I’m ambivalent about barbecue sauce - I like the flavour, but it gives me a thirst that no amount of beer can quench.

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**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/43 "2002-08-17T01:22:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RickJay \*  
> \*\*Mayonnaise? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; mayonnaise on burgers is a sign you’re a philistine and a worthless human being. And having mayonnaise on your FRIES means you’re either a Communist or a child molester. \*\*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Well at least you got the Communist part right! 😃

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/44 "2002-08-17T01:25:44Z")

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I like mayo. Tastes pretty damn good. Ketchup and barbeque sauce too, in the right amounts. But Jack in the Box making ketchup a standard order? That just ain’t right. They messed up the Sourdough Jack; man, that was probably the BEST burgerwiche I’ve ever tasted. Too bad nobody in my family likes it… ::salivation mixed with repressed rage::

Jack in the Box and Wendy’s are the best burger places I’ve ever known to exist. Go to McDonalds and what do they give you? Crap. But it’s more than that; it’s synthetic preprocessed crap. Not at Wendy’s. Man, that’s good stuff.

Hmm, KFC is really good stuff too…

::Just then Daolith sends him a link to the fiance death thread::

Hmmm, that’s weird. The cat penis thing doesn’t look good for him.

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**Author:** ![CMScoby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@CMScoby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CMScoby)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/45 "2002-08-17T05:20:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NDP \*  
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> What about tartar sauce with your fries? For some reason, that’s recently become a common practice her in the Pacific Northwest (although I don’t do it). \*\*

I do that myself here in So. California, but only when I have some fish and chips. I don’t go out of my way to get ahold of some tartar sauce when I go to McDonald’s. It’s strange, because I hate mayonnaise.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/46 "2002-08-17T11:08:20Z")

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Mayonaise belongs on turkey sandwiches, not on burgers. Mustard belongs on burgers. When I worked in a fast food joint during college days, a burger with mayo was called a “sissy burger.”

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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2002, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/47 "2002-08-18T02:41:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dooku \*  
> \*\*I don’t normally like Mayo on my food, but on the Ultimate Cheeseburger…well, it achieved a kind of perfection.
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Exactly. I don’t have anything against ketchup (or catsup, even!) In fact if I was eating any other burger in the world it would also have ketchup and mustard. (The normal yellow kind, not the candy-ass kind with wine in it, PU!)

HOWEVER – the whole thing with the Ultimate Cheese Burger was that the mayo blended with the melted cheese to make it a creamy, gooey concoction. It was like having a burger dunked in Alfredo sauce or something. If they wanted to have an ITALIAN Ultimate Cheese Burger with Marinara sauce or something on it that would be all right, but Ketchup? Why bother? You can grab a pack of ketchup on the way out if you want ketchup.

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**Author:** ![musicguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@musicguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/musicguy)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2002, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/48 "2002-08-18T18:17:51Z")

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In and Out, (for you west coasters out there) is the only burger besides the Sourdough Jack that I can handle mayo on. Of course, its not really mayo exactly more of a yellowish yummy spread, similar to McDonalds “special” sauce but much better tasting. For all others, ketchup is fine. Just not those two burgers. There are just fine the way they are/were.

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Linus\_Van\_Pelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linus_Van_Pelt)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2002, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/49 "2002-08-19T10:44:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by musicguy \*  
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> A slight hijack but can somebody clear this up? My understanding is that there is no beef in a Jack in the Box taco. Only a beef flayored soy product. This doesn’t seem correct but it the oddest paste. Not bad at all, just strange. \*\*

A friend of mine told me the same thing but [the ingredients page of the Jack in the Box website](http://www.jackinthebox.com/ourfood/ingredients.php) states that they do contain beef.

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**Author:** ![Synnove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Synnove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Synnove)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2002, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/50 "2002-08-19T13:29:20Z")

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> _Originally posted by_ **voguevixen** :
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> but Ketchup? Why bother? You can grab a pack of ketchup on the way out if you want ketchup.

This is the wisest thing I have read all thread.

And I don’t care _what’s_ in the tacos, as long as it’s not what it _appears_ to be … they’re nummy!

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**Author:** ![musicguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@musicguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/musicguy)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2002, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultimate-cheeseburger-ruined/123939/51 "2002-08-19T15:35:45Z")

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Thanks for clearing that up **Linus**

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