# Ultra's suspension **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396 "2021-01-01T02:29:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/21 "2021-01-01T04:08:15Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Pointing this out is not part of some anti-quarantine agenda. If _all he’d done_ was comment about how depressing it was to see the small number of people, I’d be right with you. But he intentionally went on to talk about how they were only wearing masks for the camera, implying both that the people in Times Square were hypocrites for wearing masks and also that the wearing of masks isn’t necessary, and that’s where he went from being okay to being a flat out jerk, especially considering the forum. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/22 "2021-01-01T04:09:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But I’m not offended by what UltarVires posted. Well, I am so we cancel each other out. And offending people was clearly exactly what was intended so good going, **UV**. This time though, he gets to go think about it for a week and see if that chills his shit out some. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/23 "2021-01-01T04:25:34Z")
UltraVires, sometimes I watch a TV show, and I don’t like it. That’s when I turn it off. That’s it, a few minutes later I hardly remember it. It’s not something I’d start a thread about. Ivory Tower Denizen, so sorry about your mother. Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/24 "2021-01-01T04:28:58Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m going to have to defend UltraVires on this one. Having a small crowd at Times Square on New Years Eve is a depressing sight. So don’t watch it. What did you expect to see there? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/25 "2021-01-01T04:53:32Z")
Never mind – I didn’t read your follow up. But those who are defending UltraVires? C’mon – if that’s the most “depressing site” you see this year, even on TV, consider yourself fortunate. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/26 "2021-01-01T05:58:52Z")
He came to CS to comment critically on a show the he turned off, instead of just forgetting about it. . OK so far, I guess, that’s what CS is for. He didn’t like the staging, which didn’t look sincere. Masked for stage effect, not safety. OK, too, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/27 "2021-01-01T08:17:11Z")
Oh, is that what he is doing? 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/28 "2021-01-01T09:39:40Z")
Did I miss the suspension announcement? ---
**Author:** ![Enjoy\_Slurm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enjoy_slurm/32/3937_2.png) [@Enjoy\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enjoy_Slurm)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/29 "2021-01-01T09:51:16Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I would go so far as to say if anybody got anything from it, it woupd be IvoryTowerDenizen for threadshitting Talk about trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/30 "2021-01-01T09:51:59Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > But he intentionally went on to talk about how they were only wearing masks for the camera, implying both that the people in Times Square were hypocrites for wearing masks and also that the wearing of masks isn’t necessary, and that’s where he went from being okay to being a flat out jerk, especially considering the forum. ^ This. Mask wearing has become more and more common, to the point at work we very, very rarely have to speak to anyone about the requirement anymore. If anything, the other customers exert peer pressure, the anti-mask contingent can be located by listening for the other customers haranguing them as they try to go through the store. The mask wearing was NOT “just for the cameras”. ESPECIALLY since the people who were there as audience were frontline workers who know, much more than the average person, just how important masking wearing is. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/31 "2021-01-01T09:52:59Z")
For me, it’s not the comment about them wearing the masks for TV. That could be generously interpreted as meaning they wore them so they can actually do the TV show. But with the comment about the mask thing feeling “forced” definitely turned into a claim that they don’t actually need to wear a mask. And obviously anyone who isn’t anti-mask would get mad at that remark. It would start a heated discussion, which might be okay for GD, but not for Cafe society. I’m not sure I would have jumped straight to a suspension over it, but I support modding him for it. (I will presume @What_Exit looked at the poster’s history to decide for a suspension instead of Warning.) ---
**Author:** ![Enjoy\_Slurm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enjoy_slurm/32/3937_2.png) [@Enjoy\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enjoy_Slurm)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/32 "2021-01-01T10:29:52Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > (I will presume @What_Exit looked at the poster’s history to decide for a suspension instead of Warning. That’s some great mod thinking right there. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/33 "2021-01-01T10:57:27Z")
> [@Enjoy\_Slurm](#): > > Talk about trolling. You mean like deliberately quoting out of context, like you did by not quoting the last part of that sentence? ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/34 "2021-01-01T11:22:58Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I would go so far as to say if anybody got anything from it, it woupd be IvoryTowerDenizen for threadshitting (which I don’t support actually happening). It wasn’t threadshitting by the SDMB definition, whether you support modding it or not. You could perhaps say hijacking, but I don’t really think so as it was a direct response to what was said in the OP, and it was certainly understandable under the circumstances. To claim that IvoryTowerDenizen is more deserving of criticism than Ultra is plain nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/35 "2021-01-01T11:57:37Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > It wasn’t threadshitting by the SDMB definition I can’t come up with any specific examples, but I think it _is_. It is a classic formula; someone starts a thread about “I like/dislike _x_”, someone else comes in saying “You are wrong for liking/disliking _x_ because _personal anecdote_, you insensitive clod!” I’m pretty sure that those posts _are_ usually modded. Choosing _not_ to mod them out of compassion doesn’t change that. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/36 "2021-01-01T13:28:29Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Really stupid piece of modding I (sort of) agree with this. Just one week? That’s utter bullshit. Not _nearly_ long enough for such obvious trolling, @What_Exit. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/37 "2021-01-01T13:47:22Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Jesus, I regret starting this. Good, you’re learning! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/38 "2021-01-01T13:52:10Z")
ITD wasn’t responding to the stated dislike of the event. The post was a response to the notion that the masks were only being worn as a “fake news” sort of thing for the sake of the cameras. In other words, that the masks are unnecessary and nobody should have been wearing them in the first place. The outrage was justified and, much like the OP itself, not actually related to the television program. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/39 "2021-01-01T14:05:21Z")
In other words, UltraVires threadshat his own op ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396/40 "2021-01-01T14:14:12Z")
Yep! I suppose the question is whether you can threadshit in a poisoned well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ultras-suspension/929396.md?page=3)