# Um so the movie isn't going to address this? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 16, 2013, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078 "2013-03-16T06:25:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/21 "2013-03-18T03:08:21Z")
On a different level, there’s one of these in **Baby Boom** that has always stayed with me. Diane Keaton’s small-but-growing gourmet baby food company gets a takeover offer from some large competitor, and during the negotiations they point out that she will start running into financial constraints soon and won’t be able to grow further (I forget their exact nature). She doesn’t dispute this. Of course she does the Hollywood thing and turns them down … with no consequences whatsoever. No financial problem, no hostile takeover bid, no undercut-her-out-of-the-market attempt - nothing. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/22 "2013-03-18T04:33:39Z")
> [@Askance](#): > > On a different level, there’s one of these in **Baby Boom** that has always stayed with me. Diane Keaton’s small-but-growing gourmet baby food company gets a takeover offer from some large competitor, and during the negotiations they point out that she will start running into financial constraints soon and won’t be able to grow further (I forget their exact nature). She doesn’t dispute this. > > Of course she does the Hollywood thing and turns them down … with no consequences whatsoever. No financial problem, no hostile takeover bid, no undercut-her-out-of-the-market attempt - nothing. I had to see that turd with my parents when I was seven. SEVEN! I forgave my parents, but I’ve hated Diane Keaton ever since. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/23 "2013-03-18T05:02:44Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > The James Bond movie **Diamonds are Forever** does this. They never explain why it is that Lana Wood’s (Plenty O’Toole’s) body is in Jill St. John’s (Tiffany case’s) swimming pool. There was apparently supposed to be a scene where O’Toole breaks into Case’s house (How? Why? Aside from both meeting Bond the two have no connection), gets mistaken for her (despite the difference in hair color and body) and gets cement-shoed into the pool. This actually is explained in the movie. Bond and Plenty are shnogging (or maybe post-coital) when Tiffany and her goons break into Bond’s room. Tiffany has her goons toss Plenty out a window. She lands in the hotel swimming pool, which pissed off Plenty enough that she tracked down Tiffany’s house and went there to confront her about it. (Not the smartest move she could’ve made, but then the character has clearly been depicted in lacking in brains.) Unbeknownst to Plenty, Kidd & Wynt were lying in wait at Tiffany’s house to murder her. However they apparently don’t know much about Tiffany other than that she is a red-head who often dons a brunette wig (much like Plenty’s real hair.) When Tiffany returns to her home and finds Bond there, she angrily yells “What are YOU doing here, and what is my black wig doing in the … pool?” The black wig of course being Plenty’s actual hair floating just to the surface of the water. A more curious unanswered question from a whole slew of Bond movies is what happens to the Bond girl at the end of the film? Sure, some of them like Honey Ryder probably just got dumped and forgotten. But Tatiana Romanova defected from Russia to be with Bond; and Pussy Galore, Domino Derval, Solitaire, even Tiffany Case herself were all willing participants in the bad guys’ schemes. Even though they eventually all defected and helped Bond save the day in the end, they were still accomplices to frauds, murders, grand thefts, conspiracies, smuggling, and numerous other felonies. They were sure to face serious charges after the fade-out / last make-out session with Bond. Did they get pardons for their last minute changes of heart, or are there women’s prisons filled to the rafters with his former conquests? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/24 "2013-03-18T07:56:22Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > A more curious unanswered question from a whole slew of Bond movies is what happens to the Bond girl at the end of the film? Sure, some of them like Honey Ryder probably just got dumped and forgotten. But Tatiana Romanova defected from Russia to be with Bond; and Pussy Galore, Domino Derval, Solitaire, even Tiffany Case herself were all willing participants in the bad guys’ schemes. Even though they eventually all defected and helped Bond save the day in the end, they were still accomplices to frauds, murders, grand thefts, conspiracies, smuggling, and numerous other felonies. They were sure to face serious charges after the fade-out / last make-out session with Bond. Did they get pardons for their last minute changes of heart, or are there women’s prisons filled to the rafters with his former conquests? It’s a little known fact that among its other powers, James Bond’s penis can legally grant pardons. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/25 "2013-03-18T09:51:00Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > It’s a little known fact that among its other powers, James Bond’s penis can legally grant pardons. Kinda like Salieri? Y’know, what with a dick offering absolution. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/26 "2013-03-18T10:17:32Z")
Watching the Deleted Scenes and Director’s Comments on DVD’s can be illuminating. Sometimes scenes essential to following the plot are left out as time-wasters that don’t contribute to development of characters or emotions. (Perhaps editors were so familiar with the plot they didn’t realize the scene was essential to explanation? More likely is that plot consistency is low priority.) The only example that pops to mind is near the end of _Cold Mountain_ where hero sets off in search of heroine. How he knew where to look is explained in a deleted scene. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/27 "2013-03-18T12:00:01Z")
> [@](#): > > This actually is explained in the movie. Bond and Plenty are shnogging (or maybe post-coital) when Tiffany and her goons break into Bond’s room. Tiffany has her goons toss Plenty out a window. She lands in the hotel swimming pool, which pissed off Plenty enough that she tracked down Tiffany’s house and went there to confront her about it. (Not the smartest move she could’ve made, but then the character has clearly been depicted in lacking in brains.) **Unbeknownst to Plenty, Kidd & Wynt were lying in wait at Tiffany’s house to murder her. However they apparently don’t know much about Tiffany other than that she is a red-head who often dons a brunette wig (much like Plenty’s real hair.)** When Tiffany returns to her home and finds Bond there, she angrily yells “What are YOU doing here, and what is my black wig doing in the … pool?” The black wig of course being Plenty’s actual hair floating just to the surface of the water. I’m afraid you have a different interpretation of “explained in the movie” than I and most other people do. The things in unbolded printI’ve quoted from you are indeed in the movie. The part I’ve bolded, which would’ve _explained_ things, is not, although it’s in things like Benson’s book on the Bond films, which admits that this didn’t actually get into the film. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/28 "2013-03-18T12:38:24Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I’m afraid you have a different interpretation of “explained in the movie” than I and most other people do. The things in unbolded printI’ve quoted from you are indeed in the movie. The part I’ve bolded, which would’ve _explained_ things, is not, although it’s in things like Benson’s book on the Bond films, which admits that this didn’t actually get into the film. I just saw the film on G4’s Bond marathon and though I don’t recall what the exact conversation was after she asks what her wig was doing in the pool, I didn’t find it much of a mental leap to work out what had happened. I’m fairly certain there was even a ‘they must have thought she was you’ sort of a comment in there. ---
**Author:** ![Oedipus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Oedipus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oedipus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/29 "2013-03-18T12:48:39Z")
While **The Room** is a great film, it never really closes the conflict of Danny’s drug abuse, nor does it address how an entirely different actor is playing the same character in the last scenes. Really doesn’t matter though. Great film. 10/10, would watch again. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/30 "2013-03-18T12:56:07Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > I just saw the film on G4’s Bond marathon and though I don’t recall what the exact conversation was after she asks what her wig was doing in the pool, I didn’t find it much of a mental leap to work out what had happened. I’m fairly certain there was even a ‘they must have thought she was you’ sort of a comment in there. Bond tells Tiffany that “they thought she was you”, but doesn’t say who “they” were, or what Plenty was doing at what is apparently Tiffany’s place. Or, for that matter, how Bond himself knows all this. And how the hell does Plenty even know where Tiffany lives? (this is the first time we even see Bond there). In any event, something is clearly missing. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/31 "2013-03-18T13:24:54Z")
> [@Oedipus](#): > > While **The Room** is a great film, it never really closes the conflict of Danny’s drug abuse, nor does it address how an entirely different actor is playing the same character in the last scenes. Really doesn’t matter though. Great film. 10/10, would watch again. Damn it, beat by less than an hour. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Oedipus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Oedipus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oedipus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078/32 "2013-03-18T14:19:17Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > Damn it, beat by less than an hour. ☹ Sorry. Had to do it. Also, in [**Thankskilling**](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1129441/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1), they never really explain exactly how a turkey could come back from the dead as a radioactive zombie turkey. Doesn’t make sense. However, I would never say that it detracts from the whole film, seeing that it had all the makings of a great film: Pilgrim boobs in the opening shot, great action and FX, and amazing catchphrases. “Gobble, gobble, mutherfucker” and “Nice tits, bitch” have got to be the best spoken lines in film ever. A++++, would recommend to a friend. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/um-so-the-movie-isnt-going-to-address-this/653078.md?page=1)