# Umkay's banning

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [June 25, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264 "2012-06-25T16:57:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/41 "2012-06-25T21:38:48Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> I don’t really think this case deserves strenuous rule-parsing or justification, but TubaDiva references multiple persona_s_.
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> I don’t think the lying was itself clearly bannable, but the creation of a sock account to prompt outcries of praise and sympathy, followed by outrage, victimhood, attention, etc. sure was.

The reference to multiple personas may just mean the one here and the one on the mommy board.

I don’t think there’s any solid public evidence that **umkay** and **notokay** are the same person, although that’s presumably nearly everybody’s assumption.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/42 "2012-06-25T21:41:08Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> I don’t think the lying was itself clearly bannable

It is. **TubaDiva** quoted the relevant part of the Registration Agreement when she announced the ban: “We reserve the right to revoke the posting privileges of persons misrepresenting themselves on the SDMB.”

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/43 "2012-06-25T22:04:51Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> It’s like the TV Trope of someone who doesn’t want kids finding out they _can’t_ have them.

Except it’s a case where I think it would be awesome (in a trainwreck kind of way) for her to respond further.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/44 "2012-06-25T22:09:50Z")

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> [@conway](#):
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> Good advice, Poster 53900.

That is too personal, Poster.

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**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/45 "2012-06-25T22:09:54Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> I’m too lazy too…I just read it somewhere.
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> And honestly, kablooey? Someone needs to go back to troll school.

You know, though, this person probably never thought we would be comparing the thread here with some thread on a pregnancy board…

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/46 "2012-06-25T22:11:21Z")

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> [@tapu](#):
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> You know, though, this person probably never thought we would be comparing the thread here with some thread on a pregnancy board…

I’m curious how someone found the thread on the other board.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/47 "2012-06-25T22:38:21Z")

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My quick take:

Isn’t it generally true that people with severe disabilities would probably want to avoid a lot of extra attention towards their disability? That they would prefer to just become “one of the gang” and put the focus on their thoughts on this topic or that, without instituting a multi-page pity party all about them? How do Dopers with such disabilities feel on this issue?

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/48 "2012-06-25T23:01:43Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I’m curious how someone found the thread on the other board.

I know! Mothering Dot Com has about as much overlap with the Straight Dope as Storm Front.

Actually, if she has any sense, that’s where umkay will go next. She can be a fabulously wealthy beautiful nordic princess who has a C4 SCI caused by a truck load of Jews, and who is now looking for advice on how to build a bunker and survive in the post-Obama wasteland.

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**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/49 "2012-06-25T23:06:21Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I’m curious how someone found the thread on the other board.

Only thing I can think of is that someone pasted some unusual characteristics of speech from here into a search engine and found it there.

Hmm, I think I’d do that but include separate terms that referred to trolling.

idk,tho.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/50 "2012-06-25T23:17:00Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> My quick take:
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> Isn’t it generally true that people with severe disabilities would probably want to avoid a lot of extra attention towards their disability? That they would prefer to just become “one of the gang” and put the focus on their thoughts on this topic or that, without instituting a multi-page pity party all about them? How do Dopers with such disabilities feel on this issue?

I don’t keep my crutches and wheelchair any sort of secret, and will discuss health issues but they are not that big a thing. I don’t start every post with something about the crutches or chair. I post a lot about food, books, being into historical recreation. Maybe a fair amount about movies and tv.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/51 "2012-06-25T23:33:09Z")

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I’m just glad she’s feeling better (and not dead)

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/52 "2012-06-25T23:36:50Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I’m just glad she’s feeling better (and not dead)

What the I don’t even…

Are you joking?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/53 "2012-06-25T23:42:16Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> What the I don’t even…
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> Are you joking?

It’s like Procrustus was trying to set up a joke and then just totally missed it. I mean, c’mon, he walked right past three of them. Dead Parrot Skit, “I’m not dead yet” and “I got better” were all right there.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/54 "2012-06-25T23:54:43Z")

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I noticed that umkay had become a member before being banned. Just out of curiosity did they subscribe to the boards, or was that membership given to them?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/55 "2012-06-26T00:20:40Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> What the I don’t even…
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> Are you joking?

Tried, but failed. :smack:

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/56 "2012-06-26T02:19:27Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> I noticed that umkay had become a member before being banned. Just out of curiosity did they subscribe to the boards, or was that membership given to them?

Sorry, but that’s not the kind of thing staff can gossip about.

You can disclose your own status, your own information if you like … but we can’t be just telling people your business.

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**Author:** ![SubaRhubarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@SubaRhubarb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SubaRhubarb)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/57 "2012-06-26T02:19:31Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I’m curious how someone found the thread on the other board.

If you google up quadriplegic troll she is discussed in the second link on a breastfeeding forum.

Edit: TubaDiva, in a case like this, if she was sponsored does the sponsor get a refund?

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/58 "2012-06-26T02:52:54Z")

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The obvious response to all this is simply to never care about anyone, under any circumstances- ever!

Whew! Problem-solving is so stimulating.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/59 "2012-06-26T04:02:26Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> The obvious response to all this is simply to never care about anyone, under any circumstances- ever!
> 
> Whew! Problem-solving is so stimulating.

Can you ever really trust another human being, Greg?

Well… I think that… with enough…

The answer is ‘no’, no you cannot.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/60 "2012-06-26T04:08:29Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> The obvious response to all this is simply to never care about anyone, under any circumstances- ever!..

It’s even better if you are contemptuous of everyone, always!

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