# Umkay's banning **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [June 25, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264 "2012-06-25T16:57:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/61 "2012-06-26T04:22:58Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > I noticed that umkay had become a member before being banned. Just out of curiosity did they subscribe to the boards, or was that membership given to them? I can almost guarantee you that one of her admirers gifted it to her. Sucks to be that person: I mean it’s just a few bucks, but still. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/62 "2012-06-26T04:23:35Z")
> [@SubaRhubarb](#): > > If you google up quadriplegic troll she is discussed in the second link on a breastfeeding forum. > > Edit: TubaDiva, in a case like this, if she was sponsored does the sponsor get a refund? I would certainly make them that offer … if that was the situation. Although usually it’s no refunds, ever. But speaking totally hypothetically I think I’d want them to get their money back. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/63 "2012-06-26T04:25:07Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > I would certainly make them that offer … if that was the situation. > > Although usually it’s no refunds, ever. > > But speaking totally hypothetically I think I’d want them to get their money back. I’m glad to hear it. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/64 "2012-06-26T04:53:54Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > I know! Mothering Dot Com has about as much overlap with the Straight Dope as Storm Front. > > Actually, if she has any sense, that’s where umkay will go next. She can be a fabulously wealthy beautiful nordic princess who has a C4 SCI caused by a truck load of Jews, and who is now looking for advice on how to build a bunker and survive in the post-Obama wasteland. Or Mothering where she can pretend her injury is a vaccine reaction exacerbated by being “only” breastfed until she was two. ---
**Author:** ![fifty-six](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@fifty-six](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fifty-six)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/65 "2012-06-26T06:40:10Z")
I was wondering if that was gonna come up. I sponsored umkay well before the banning. I thought the membership would help her navigate the threads more easily with the search function. I stayed anon and she did not know who it was. There was an error on my part in the processing and I realized it right around the time everything went down. I just wanted to go through with my intent. Then less than 24 hours later it all came to light. I was given an unprompted offer of a refund or the option to gift the sponsorship to someone else. I denied it. And no, it did not suck. I enjoyed it and have spent much more money on less. And I have absolutely nothing else to spend my money on. And to tell you the truth it is not The Dopes fault what I do with my money. The Dope offers no guarantees on a gift sub. I bought it mostly for a selfish reason. To get more out of her and keep her posting. She had loads of cash according to her story. Did I fall hook line and sinker? Yup. Sure looking back there was a few things I noticed as well. But whatever. I lost nothing and it gave me some drama. She still is as real to me as any story book character or actress. And in the current light quite a complex milti-role character with prequels and a possible sequel. Was I duped? No, I was not asked to do such a thing. Would I have done it if it was not a helpless sweet talking young thing. Yup, I sent Lute Skywatcher some money as well and have sponsored others in an anon fashion in the past. I had a tough couple years. Super tough. I made it through and wish to and can share. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/66 "2012-06-26T06:59:41Z")
> [@fifty-six](#): > > And no, it did not suck. I enjoyed it and have spent much more money on less. And I have absolutely nothing else to spend my money on. If I troll some other message boards, will you pay me? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/67 "2012-06-26T07:07:38Z")
My grandmother needs surgery for… everything, really. We’re talking pretty much total body replacement. It will cost millions, and we don’t have it. Right now Plan A is to set her out on an ice floe. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/68 "2012-06-26T07:08:51Z")
Oh you poor thing! Here, have my life savings! Hehe, joke’s on him, I don’t have shit saved. ---
**Author:** ![fifty-six](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@fifty-six](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fifty-six)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/69 "2012-06-26T07:10:17Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > If I troll some other message boards, will you pay me? Maybe. Do I get to pick the board and the nature of the trolling? ---
**Author:** ![fifty-six](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@fifty-six](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fifty-six)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/70 "2012-06-26T07:11:55Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > My grandmother needs surgery for… everything, really. We’re talking pretty much total body replacement. It will cost millions, and we don’t have it. Right now Plan A is to set her out on an ice floe. Cool. When she drifts by me out here in the Aleutians I will scoop her up and give her a meal. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/71 "2012-06-26T07:15:07Z")
She’s nearer the Atlantic. So we’re risking a Titanic-like event just getting her out there! And you wouldn’t believe what it cost to rent a hundred year old cruise ship! ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/72 "2012-06-26T07:43:17Z")
And one more expense – we’ll need to keep grams on a respirator until next spring, as all the ice floes have melted by now. Either replacing her body or putting her on ice are fantastic, almost unbelievably expensive options. But we are committed! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/73 "2012-06-26T08:28:17Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Brick we are often on the same side in issues where people are reacting emotionally to legal issues. I tend to take the by the letter legal viewpoint too. But take my advice, just stop. This one is not getting you anywhere. You are on the wrong side of this. Better to just walk away. This is exactly what I mentioned in the Pit thread. If it was okay for everyone to be skeptical of **umkay** , then it has to be okay to be skeptical of those who are skeptical. If doing so makes people think poorly of you, that’s on them for being hypocritical. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/74 "2012-06-26T11:33:41Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > This is exactly what I mentioned in the Pit thread. If it was okay for everyone to be skeptical of **umkay** , then it has to be okay to be skeptical of those who are skeptical. If doing so makes people think poorly of you, that’s on them for being hypocritical. Sorry ran that through google translator and it still didn’t make sense. Maybe it’s too early for me. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/75 "2012-06-26T11:51:10Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > In my time dealing with Internet drama and real-life drama queens, I’ve seen a repeated pattern of attention-seeking which in real life typically involves feigned suicide attempts or faking illness, and on the Internet is often characterized by feigning one’s death or creating a sock nemesis with whom to have a dramatic conflict. > > I am not claiming to know anything about this case nor to have seen it coming before anyone else, but the dramatic “X has died!” post with so little other information, followed quickly by the “What the–I’m still alive and that person is awful!” thread certainly followed a tiresomely familiar pattern. I had that exact same “Oh, we’re doing this again?” feeling. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/76 "2012-06-26T12:04:55Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > It is. **TubaDiva** quoted the relevant part of the Registration Agreement when she announced the ban: “We reserve the right to revoke the posting privileges of persons misrepresenting themselves on the SDMB.” OK, I’m going to come clean. The 10 1/2 is centimeters, not inches.☹ ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/77 "2012-06-26T12:16:54Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I’m just glad she’s feeling better (and not dead) That made me laugh! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/78 "2012-06-26T12:44:49Z")
> [@XT](#): > > I guess I didn’t realize that was a ban-able offense. Thanks for the info, Marley. > > -XT I think it became formalized after teh Mr Six/Katlynn fiasco. > [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > It’s even better if you are contemptuous of everyone, always! Well, that’s a stupid attitude. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/79 "2012-06-26T13:22:35Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > This is exactly what I mentioned in the Pit thread. If it was okay for everyone to be skeptical of **umkay** , then it has to be okay to be skeptical of those who are skeptical. If doing so makes people think poorly of you, that’s on them for being hypocritical. I don’t know what this means. ---
**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/80 "2012-06-26T13:33:42Z")
> [@FloatyGimpy](#): > > I don’t know what this means. It means that everyone in that Pit thread up until the introduction of sezyoo was accusing **umkay** on a hunch - which turned out to be right. **Bricker** and **BigT** are just saying that there is a non-zero possibility, however small, that this is all a huge misunderstanding and coincidence and **umkay** is an actual person. After all, the proof we do have does not exactly stand up to scrutiny in a court of law (not that it needs to, but **Bricker** is a lawyer). Saying this is similar to saying “Something smells fishy here, I have a feeling **umkay** is not legit.” - both are forms of scepticism. You might not agree with this, but do you see what it means now? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264.md?page=5)