# Umkay's banning **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [June 25, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264 "2012-06-25T16:57:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/101 "2012-06-26T21:24:40Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > I’m sure I’ve used the term “kablooey” somewhere in the past out there in internetland. Guess I must be this same person as well. :rolleyes: How many people do you suppose have used the words “kablooey” and “KWIM”, as well as the phrase “some people have it better than you, and some people have it worse” (which someone discovered both sezyoo and umkay did) on message boards in the past month? at MINIMUM 1 in a thousand. So, The odds that there are any 2 board posters out there at all, who have used all those terms? probably 100%… the odds of 2 particular chosen people who, _after_ chosen to be scrutinized to determine if they are one and the same, are found to have both used all those terms in the past month, and not be the same person? probably close to 1 in a million or more. The odds of those 2 people not being the same person, after you factor in the above, and then the several other unusual “coincidences”? Probably 1 in billions. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/102 "2012-06-26T22:52:18Z")
> [@Pitchmeister](#): > > Not exactly. Evolution is backed up by hard, scientific facts (and besides, the word theory is misleading in this context anyway), the accusations against **umkay** were not, up to a point. I was aware it was not a perfect analogy. Best I come up with on the fly. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/103 "2012-06-27T04:43:04Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > It’s even better if you are contemptuous of everyone, always! It has served me well this far. As for **umkay** , it’s still not as funny as, er, um, He Who Must Not Be Named, though it’s pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/104 "2012-06-27T05:11:11Z")
As a lurker who followed all these threads\*, I just want to say a big thanks to everyone who did research on this, and the mods for communicating that she was banned, and why. \*_You canNOT get this kind of entertainment anywhere else. What movie/show/opera has the drama, the conflict, the **schadenfreude** that you get here every day?_ ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/105 "2012-06-27T15:09:19Z")
> [@Pitchmeister](#): > > He already said he had kind of an ulterior motive. IMHO, one doesn’t get to question other’s contribution to charity, whatever it may be. Well yeah. To a charity. But I think “you should probably give to a homeless shelter than the Nigerian Prince. In fact, just don’t give to the Nigerian Prince,” is still a reasonable response. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/106 "2012-06-27T17:56:18Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > I don’t keep my crutches and wheelchair any sort of secret, and will discuss health issues but they are not that big a thing. I don’t start every post with something about the crutches or chair. I post a lot about food, books, being into historical recreation. Maybe a fair amount about movies and tv. I have posted about mine, because it is new. But only after 10 years of posting about other stuff. (aside) What kind of historical reenactment? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/107 "2012-06-27T18:32:15Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > It has served me well this far. > > As for **umkay** , it’s still not as funny as, er, um, He Who Must Not Be Named, though it’s pretty good. Voldemort? > [@Enderw24](#): > > Well yeah. To a charity. But I think “you should probably give to a homeless shelter than the Nigerian Prince. In fact, just don’t give to the Nigerian Prince,” is still a reasonable response. For fucks sake it’s his fucking money and he can spend it on whatever he wants to. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/108 "2012-06-27T18:39:27Z")
> [@Pitchmeister](#): > > He already said he had kind of an ulterior motive. IMHO, one doesn’t get to question other’s contribution to charity, whatever it may be. There is always something more “worthwile” to donate to. You’re giving money to cancer research? What about AIDS? What about all those starving kids in Africa? What about the flood victims in Bangladesh or the earthquake victims in Haiti? A) It’s the internet, I can question whatever the fuck I like. B) It’s not a matter of “worthwhile”. It’s a matter of not really knowing who’s actually asking for the money and whether they are full of shit or not. The only reason I mentioned that to fifty-six is because just last month he gave away some money to another Doper whose need for it was questionable, to say the least. I appreciate his need to “give back”, so I thought he should consider doing it in a way that he won’t end up feeling used and lied to. ---
**Author:** ![fifty-six](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@fifty-six](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fifty-six)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/109 "2012-06-27T18:57:22Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > A) It’s the internet, I can question whatever the fuck I like. > B) It’s not a matter of “worthwhile”. It’s a matter of not really knowing who’s actually asking for the money and whether they are full of shit or not. > > The only reason I mentioned that to fifty-six is because just last month he gave away some money to another Doper whose need for it was questionable, to say the least. I appreciate his need to “give back”, so I thought he should consider doing it in a way that he won’t end up feeling used and lied to. Holy Crap, I am not weakened reed that will bend and break at the slightest breeze. It is 14 freaking bucks. I can spend it how I want. I don’t feel bad or used or lie to. You have absolutely no idea who or what else I give to. Charities can be fraudulent as well. Plus Lute gave me my money back without asking. I am out nothing. It is an insignificant amount to members of the site or to the site itself that I am not gonna miss. I am fully aware of the internet and its dangers. This was a safe transaction. Both financially and emotionally. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/110 "2012-06-27T19:01:22Z")
If you don’t want people discussing, judging or criticizing your spending habits, don’t post about your spending habits. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/111 "2012-06-27T19:05:59Z")
Er, um… exactly how much does “insignificant” equal? ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/112 "2012-06-27T19:40:28Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > For fucks sake it’s his fucking money and he can spend it on whatever he wants to. And I fucking paid my fucking money so I can fucking post that he fucked up with his fucking fucked up fuckitude, fuckity fuck fuck. > [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Er, um… exactly how much does “insignificant” equal? Webster’s abridged dictionary defines “insignificant” as $14.95. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/113 "2012-06-27T19:42:50Z")
> [@fifty-six](#): > > Holy Crap, I am not weakened reed that will bend and break at the slightest breeze. > > It is 14 freaking bucks. I can spend it how I want. I don’t feel bad or used or lie to. You have absolutely no idea who or what else I give to. Charities can be fraudulent as well. Plus Lute gave me my money back without asking. I am out nothing. It is an insignificant amount to members of the site or to the site itself that I am not gonna miss. > > I am fully aware of the internet and its dangers. This was a safe transaction. Both financially and emotionally. Yeah, it’s your money. I just thought you were going about this “give back” thing in rather stupid way. Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/114 "2012-06-27T19:54:26Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Is there a better search function for members or something, because I’m not having any trouble using the existing search function as a mere guest. (Of course, google sometimes can turn up better results, I’m aware of that option as well) Nope. It used to be that only members could use the search engine, but that hasn’t been the case for awhile now. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/115 "2012-06-27T20:21:10Z")
People, who **fifty-six** chooses to give his money to is way off topic. Start a new thread in the Pit if you want to go after him personally for this; start a new thread in GD if you want to debate the matter theoretically. In this thread, drop it. Thanks, **twickster** for the SDMB ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/116 "2012-06-28T01:14:33Z")
Fourteen bucks times a hundred thousand ‘donors’ would pretty much do it for me. But if I were to make that happen via fiction I’d write a novel and sell it, not try and make fools of strangers. I both am and am not surprised that people are a little PO’ed about this whole situation. It’s friction on some people’s ethos. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/117 "2012-06-28T01:26:28Z")
What is fiction other than trying to fool a bunch of strangers? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/118 "2012-06-28T18:18:29Z")
When a user is banned do the mods also have an automated script that searches for that users’ previous IP addresses, for other (or future) users from the same? Curious. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/119 "2012-06-28T18:38:03Z")
Speaking generally, there is a function in the Mod Panel that makes it very easy to do a search like that. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/120 "2012-06-30T10:04:31Z")
Hate to take away from the various shit fights going on, but I believe the Admins and the Mods did a great job here. Virtue is its own reward (I almost choked typing that!) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264.md?page=7)