# "Umm 'scuze me, but we's used to eatin' stake and lobstar. Kin we have that, pwease?" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 31, 2007, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848 "2007-07-31T18:15:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/21 "2007-07-31T18:57:21Z")
THEY CAN HAS CHEEZBURGER? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/22 "2007-07-31T18:57:59Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] They also suggested some wildly impractical things like “stake” and lobster 'cause they’re kids with no concept of food pricing or the running of a school cafeteria. The administration read the letters [/QUOTE] Yeah, I mean, they are just kids. All things considered, they acted intelligently and maturely. (There’s always going to be a few “My cat’s breath smells like cat food” types in bunch to mix things up.) I think the thread title would be a lot cuter if it was glued to a picture of some hapless looking cats. Wanting to know if they can has cheeseburger. ETA: DAMNIT! I thought I was original! ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/23 "2007-07-31T18:59:11Z")
Sigh. Goddamn, your threads are a chore, **VCO3**. You suck. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/24 "2007-07-31T19:00:00Z")
[QUOTE=Crotalus] The green light says he’s still online, but he isn’t participating in the thread. [/QUOTE] Just like a…troll. ---
**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/25 "2007-07-31T19:01:51Z")
[QUOTE=Nanoda] veritable != regular. [/QUOTE] No kidding, and although they were presented with that “veritable” salad bar, the article goes on to say: > [@](#): > > Because of cost restrictions, the children’s only real choices were between canned and frozen green beans, corn, cooked or raw carrots and cooked or cold peas. and > [@](#): > > While not all the requests would be accepted – and green beans would still occasionally be served – district supervisor Sue Hoggan said the survey will help district dietitians “tweak” the menu. So, the kids thought the frozen green beans were crap, they got to taste some other vegetables (that were presented in an attractive manner), got to do some wishful thinking, and then made a choice between canned green beans, corn, carrots, or peas. Yeah, the horror. I begin to think you’ve come to enjoy your label of “Freakishly Over-Reactive Poster” a little too much. There’s no way you could have read that article from beginning to end and come to the conclusions you posted, so that leaves you just making shit up out of thin air and wishing disease on a bunch of second graders to provoke people… Hmmm. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/26 "2007-07-31T19:06:01Z")
Wow, **VCO3** , this doesn’t speak very highly of your reading comprehension skills. But it was amusing to watch the spittle flying. Keep up the good work! ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/27 "2007-07-31T19:11:42Z")
Having actually done my practicum in Clark County, the OP is exceptionally irritating to me. You seem to have a serious, serious reading comprehension problem. Not only did they very politely take part in “democracy in action” to find a more palatable alternative to the green beans, they didn’t normally have a salad bar. Based off of your rather offensive comments about the “little darlings of Las Vegas plutocrats and Casino barons” I’ll assume half your rage is directed at the perceived wealth of these kids. First of all: this is a public school. We’re not talking about incredibly wealthy families here. The kids are, at best, upper middle-class. Las Vegas is not a land of endless wealth and decadence. The “Las Vegas plutocrats and Casino barons” send their children to private schools and you know what? Even those “little darlings” of such individuals would still be entirely justified in making requests of what their school feeds them. The fact that you didn’t have a similar program where one of your teachers gave your class a project to change something about your school in no way requires others to suffer. The teacher and the students did a cool thing. I’ve seen similar projects in Clark County where the kids focused on playground equipment, new books for the library, getting an old building painted and other things like this. It’s a way to get the kids involved in what’s going on around them. They have a voice and they accomplish things and it is a wonderful learning experience for them. This is _not_ something I would ever want to see stopped. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/28 "2007-07-31T19:14:24Z")
And what good is it serving them “stake and lobstar” if the cafeteria ladies are going to spit on their plates anyways? ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/29 "2007-07-31T19:19:54Z")
[QUOTE=CaerieD] Based off of your rather offensive comments about the “little darlings of Las Vegas plutocrats and Casino barons” I’ll assume half your rage is directed at the perceived wealth of these kids. First of all: this is a public school. We’re not talking about incredibly wealthy families here. The kids are, at best, upper middle-class. Las Vegas is not a land of endless wealth and decadence. The “Las Vegas plutocrats and Casino barons” send their children to private schools and you know what? Even those “little darlings” of such individuals would still be entirely justified in making requests of what their school feeds them. [/QUOTE] I wanted to include this sentiment in my post, but given **VCO3** s failure to even read the article, I figured why bother. Thanks for pointing it out. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/30 "2007-07-31T19:24:39Z")
**VC03** , you might want to bookmark [this page.](http://www.webmd.com/stroke/guide/stroke-overview-facts) I suspect the information it contains will be of vital import to you before too long. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/31 "2007-07-31T19:26:26Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] _Yawn_ Oh, look. Another spittle filled diatribe from the reading comprehension impaired. [/QUOTE] With “Get AIDS” thrown in to ensure response. ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/32 "2007-07-31T19:29:20Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] Sigh. Goddamn, your threads are a chore, **VCO3**. You suck. [/QUOTE] OK, that’s my first out-loud laugh of the day. Cheers, **Giraffe**! ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/33 "2007-07-31T19:31:58Z")
I don’t see where the outrage is. Many colleges institutionalize this kind of thing- they have boards made of students, who act as liaisons between the food service staff and the students who eat in the dining facilities. Many’s the time I got dumb-ass suggestions as an advisory board member for “How about better steaks- maybe filets?” or things that the food service board didn’t like (take-home food; they’d lose money). But the majority of the time, they were constructive (“Give us brown gravy more often”. “Take the onions out of the cole slaw”, “The sweet and sour sauce tastes like dumpster slime”.) and the requests were acted on, although having to sample sweet & sour sauce at 6:30 am is another story… Were the students at my university “spoiled little fucking ABORTIONS”? Hardly- I went to one of the big state universities here in Texas. Just about everyone was middle class. I see no problem with letting elementary school kids do the same thing, within reason. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/34 "2007-07-31T19:32:24Z")
Won’t SOMEONE think of the baby corn? ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/35 "2007-07-31T19:34:07Z")
[QUOTE=CaerieD] First of all: this is a public school. We’re not talking about incredibly wealthy families here. The kids are, at best, upper middle-class. Las Vegas is not a land of endless wealth and decadence. The “Las Vegas plutocrats and Casino barons” send their children to private schools [/QUOTE] It’s not like the entire population of Las Vegas is made up of plutocrats and casino barons. The people who work in the casinos and restaurants, doing not-so-well-paid jobs like cleaning and waiting tables, have to live within a reasonable distance of the casinos too. I’d be shocked if people who clean the toilets at a casino, for example, make much more money than people who do the same job elsewhere. Whatever schools the “Las Vegas plutocrats and Casino barons” send their kids to are probably not as financially constrained on vegetable choices as the school in the article. > [@VCO3](#): > > they filled out their ADORABLE demands for the “stake and lobster” and “chicken cordon blue” that they’re accustomed to eating. AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! What, no fucking FOIE GRAS stuffed PRAWNS Second graders don’t understand what things cost. Film at 11. In other news, sun rises in east, Pope still Catholic, **VCO3** expresses outrage at “rich” people 😛 ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/36 "2007-07-31T19:37:43Z")
[QUOTE=Jackmannii] Won’t SOMEONE think of the baby corn? [/QUOTE] It’s better than green beans. ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/37 "2007-07-31T19:45:56Z")
[QUOTE=Anne Neville] It’s not like the entire population of Las Vegas is made up of plutocrats and casino barons. The people who work in the casinos and restaurants, doing not-so-well-paid jobs like cleaning and waiting tables, have to live within a reasonable distance of the casinos too. I’d be shocked if people who clean the toilets at a casino, for example, make much more money than people who do the same job elsewhere. [/QUOTE] The minimum wage in Nevada is $5.30 for employers who provide insurance and $6.33 for those who don’t IIRC, so I’d say that the people cleaning the toilets aren’t any richer than the people anywhere else. Those who earn their money from tips generally do pretty well, but I don’t think it’s dramatically better than elsewhere. And there are lots and lots and _lots_ of people who have nothing to do with the tourist industry at all. Honestly, if there was any chance of getting served steak and lobster at the public schools in Las Vegas, I don’t think they’d have such a shortage of teachers. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/38 "2007-07-31T19:48:08Z")
This OP may be the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever read. –FCOD ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/39 "2007-07-31T19:49:47Z")
[QUOTE=Crotalus] The green light says he’s still online, but he isn’t participating in the thread. I think his head may have finally exploded. (And lieu, you crack me up.) [/QUOTE] I think he did say in a previous Pit thread of his that he doesn’t come back to his Pit threads. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848/40 "2007-07-31T19:51:30Z")
Dude, have you ever actually _tasted_ cafeteria food? It’s absolute crap. It’s also the most unhealthy shit I’ve ever seen. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umm-scuze-me-but-wes-used-to-eatin-stake-and-lobstar-kin-we-have-that-pwease/413848.md?page=3)