# Una: Go Drink a Juicebox

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 12, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481 "2010-11-12T21:11:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/41 "2010-11-13T02:48:20Z")

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Well maybe **SFG** could have been nicer, but my mind is boggled that anyone is claiming that **Una** ’s question wasn’t stupid to the point of being a satire of itself.

_Gee whillikers, people are saying zany things. Does that mean they are being zany? On the Internet!? Wait, no one’s ever been pointlessly irreverent on the internet before, so it must be a “facebook thing!” Wait! Let me share with you how backwards/superior I am, by noting that I don’t have a facebook page, and I don’t know anyone who has one, in fact, I’ve never even heard of facebook! You kids with your faceyspaces!_

Because lord knows, there has never been an internet meme, ever in her lifetime, and it is flat-out impossible to tell if the phrase “Cooks Source invented waterproof tea bags” is an attempt at humor unless you have knowledge of facebook.

Apologists, come on. It was a STUPID question that was perfectly mockworthy.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/42 "2010-11-13T02:59:45Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> Seriously, are we having a douche contest this week or something?

Yup, and YOU WON!  
Just kidding. You were only a runner-up. 😃

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/43 "2010-11-13T03:01:50Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Yup, and YOU WON!

Yay! 🆒

> [@](#):
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> Just kidding. You were only a runner-up. 😃

Aw. ☹

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/44 "2010-11-13T03:02:30Z")

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> [@Hello\_Again](#):
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> …_Gee whillikers, people are saying zany things. Does that mean they are being zany? On the Internet!? Wait, no one’s ever been pointlessly irreverent on the internet before, so it must be a “facebook thing!” Wait! Let me share with you how backwards/superior I am, by noting that I don’t have a facebook page, and I don’t know anyone who has one, in fact, I’ve never even heard of facebook! You kids with your faceyspaces!_…

That’s funny as hell.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/45 "2010-11-13T03:04:41Z")

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I don’t have a facebook page. I used to, but people wanted to friend me, so I deleted it.

My husband calls me anti-social. Jerk.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/46 "2010-11-13T03:41:24Z")

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> [@Hello\_Again](#):
>
> _Gee whillikers, people are saying zany things. Does that mean they are being zany? On the Internet!? Wait, no one’s ever been pointlessly irreverent on the internet before, so it must be a “facebook thing!” Wait! Let me share with you how backwards/superior I am, by noting that I don’t have a facebook page, and I don’t know anyone who has one, in fact, I’ve never even heard of facebook! You kids with your faceyspaces!_

I totally heard that in Eddie Izzard’s voice, especially the “faceyspaces” line, and laughed so hard I scared the cats.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/47 "2010-11-13T05:26:11Z")

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Hmpf. **Una** ’s biggest problem is that she doesn’t post enough.

I neglected to attach the Appropriate Taoism Chapter in the last advice I posted, but I’ll toss it in this time. No, I don’t have an ATC for everything, I haven’t even thought about this stuff for awhile.

43  
The gentlest thing in the world  
overcomes the hardest thing in the world.  
That which has no substance  
enters where there is no space.  
This shows the value of non-action.

Teaching without words,  
performing without actions:  
that is the Master’s way.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/48 "2010-11-13T05:57:22Z")

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I’ve learnt three things from this brouhaha, so it’s been a good day already.

1. SFG is female
2. SFG apparently has lots of friends/supporters on the boards
3. SFG has also an apparently long-established reputation for being edgy/snarky/“saying what she thinks.”

All three of those things are news to me. Still, there you go… An educational day on the boards.

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**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/49 "2010-11-13T06:21:56Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
>
> My god, you’re right! I’ve seen the error of my ways! From now on, I will follow everyone around in the Pit spreading sweetness and light and telling them what beautiful flowers they are and how fabulous their gripes are and how clearly everything about them is wonderful and any bad things have nothing to do with anything they’ve done! And when someone asks a question that a five-year-old could answer, by gum, I’ll just smile and say isn’t it wonderful that they have retained the likeness of a child, like Jesus wanted! And kittens! I shall shower everyone with kittens!
> 
> Wait, no, sorry, that’s a terrible lie. Guess I’m still a bitch.

Please just go away. Far, far away.

I don’t think I’ve seen a single thread that you have participated in that has been better due to your posting.

Your shrill, whiny, and your sarcasm fails on an epic level.

There are many posters I disagree with on this board. There are many posters I don’t particularly like. Even though I do not like them all that much, they post things at times that at least make me think. You, however, bring nothing to this board.

Go away.

Slee

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/50 "2010-11-13T13:09:22Z")

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> [@sleestak](#):
>
> Please just go away. Far, far away.
> 
> I don’t think I’ve seen a single thread that you have participated in that has been better due to your posting.
> 
> Your shrill, whiny, and your sarcasm fails on an epic level.
> 
> There are many posters I disagree with on this board. There are many posters I don’t particularly like. Even though I do not like them all that much, they post things at times that at least make me think. You, however, bring nothing to this board.
> 
> Go away.
> 
> Slee

One click is all it takes for you to get your wish. Don’t wait on other people to do it for you.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/51 "2010-11-13T13:32:42Z")

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As for the topic of this thread–do you really not get that all of us in this place are still people, who will still get their feelings hurt, and that we might not leave it in the Pit? There are still repercussions for what you say in the Pit.

You have a reputation for being overly blunt, but Una’s not going to know that since she doesn’t post here, anymore than she knows I’m not a troll because my opinions have changed over time.

Lately, you’ve been getting a lot of posts asking you to tone it down here. That’s not a good sign. As I pointed out in another thread, you can still be banned for trolling here in the Pit. Which puts to a lie your idea that this is the place where you are supposed to treat people poorly. That’s just a side effect of it’s real purpose–to let posters let off steam.

Una had no reason not to call your question stupid outside the Pit. There is nothing that says you can’t do that. In fact, as long as she doesn’t follow you around, she can respond every time she sees a post of yours in a way that is specifically designed to annoy you.

In fact, if I were her, I’d get a lot of satisfaction out of the fact that you got so upset you started another Pit thread. She’s only doing to you what you did to **rachellelogram** and others.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/52 "2010-11-13T13:34:53Z")

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> [@Hello\_Again](#):
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> Well maybe **SFG** could have been nicer, but my mind is boggled that anyone is claiming that **Una** ’s question wasn’t stupid to the point of being a satire of itself.
> 
> _Gee whillikers, people are saying zany things. Does that mean they are being zany? On the Internet!? Wait, no one’s ever been pointlessly irreverent on the internet before, so it must be a “facebook thing!” Wait! Let me share with you how backwards/superior I am, by noting that I don’t have a facebook page, and I don’t know anyone who has one, in fact, I’ve never even heard of facebook! You kids with your faceyspaces!_
> 
> Because lord knows, there has never been an internet meme, ever in her lifetime, and it is flat-out impossible to tell if the phrase “Cooks Source invented waterproof tea bags” is an attempt at humor unless you have knowledge of facebook.
> 
> Apologists, come on. It was a STUPID question that was perfectly mockworthy.

If you choose to interpret it that way. I’d assume she was wondering the specific significance of those types of comments, wondering about the memes.

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**Author:** ![supergalactic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@supergalactic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supergalactic)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/53 "2010-11-13T13:37:38Z")

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i like juice in a box.

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/54 "2010-11-13T14:02:23Z")

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nvm

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/55 "2010-11-13T15:52:38Z")

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[Juicebox is a pretty awesome song.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoltwBHXCx8)

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/56 "2010-11-13T16:38:45Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> No, we don’t actually call it either of those things, regardless of who does it.

Really? You don’t think it’s threadshitting for someone to post in a thread for no other reason than to harass the OP, because they felt that the OP harassed them in the Pit? When they have _literally nothing_ to say about the topic of the thread itself? Because if you can find _a single phrase_ in any of **Una** ’s posts in that thread that in any way address the topics of (a) why \*\*Tuba \*\*locked the previous thread or (b) whether moderators should be required to recuse themselves if they have a demonstrable interest in the discussion, I’d like to see it.

> [@](#):
>
> I just wanted to correct your assumption that, “Because it’s the Pit,” is an adequate response to the question, “Why are you being such a bitch?”

Of course it’s an adequate response. You just don’t like it because my behavior isn’t your behavior. When people say stupid things in the Pit, I’m allowed to point out that they’re stupid; and when I do so, you’re allowed to think I’m a terrible boor. Everybody wins!

> [@jsgoddess](#):
>
> Come for the mini-rants, stay for the over-the-top attacks on your intelligence, integrity, and life.
> 
> As a caption, I think it needs work.

I dunno, I like it.

> [@Ogre](#):
>
> Jesus. Please get your ego under control.

No.

> [@fluiddruid](#):
>
> 'sides, it wasn’t really a serious question; it was an observation, like “What’s the deal with airline food?”

No, \*\*Una \*\*has said that it was a 100% serious question. She literally _did not get_ that it was all a joke.

> [@Hello\_Again](#):
>
> Because lord knows, there has never been an internet meme, ever in her lifetime, and it is flat-out impossible to tell if the phrase “Cooks Source invented waterproof tea bags” is an attempt at humor unless you have knowledge of facebook.
> 
> Apologists, come on. It was a STUPID question that was perfectly mockworthy.

Exactly. How anyone thinks the question wasn’t worth of mockery is beyond me.

> [@sleestak](#):
>
> I don’t think I’ve seen a single thread that you have participated in that has been better due to your posting.

Then you need to get out more. Put me on ignore; I’m being 100% truthful when I say I’ll take it as a compliment, coming from you.

> [@BigT](#):
>
> As I pointed out in another thread, you can still be banned for trolling here in the Pit. Which puts to a lie your idea that this is the place where you are supposed to treat people poorly. That’s just a side effect of it’s real purpose–to let posters let off steam.

And the way I let off steam is by not keeping my mouth shut when I see people say stupid things. It’s not trolling–it’s just that I leave etiquette, politeness, and a general consideration for other people’s pwecious widdle feelings at the door when I come into this particular section of the boards. Because I \*like \*having one area where I can call a spade a spade, where I don’t have to smile and pretend that what someone just said \*doesn’t \*make me want to punch them in the teeth. (Well, okay, I can’t actually do that, because wishing bodily harm on others is against the rules–but I \*can \*call them out when they’re being fucking retarded.)

> [@](#):
>
> Una had no reason not to call your question stupid outside the Pit.

Agreed–but that’s not what she did. She also made personal attacks on me. Cited for your viewing pleasure:

> [@Tuba Diva, why did you lock this thread?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tuba-diva-why-did-you-lock-this-thread/559250/126):
>
> playing “hammer looking for a nail” as you typically do in your shopworn, and frankly quite boring, anti-SDMB-Moderation-bitches-o-the-week. […] Having the straight-shooting “tuff grrl” persona you put on when you post on this message board, I’m _sure_ you’ll agree in your very next post.

> [@Tuba Diva, why did you lock this thread?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tuba-diva-why-did-you-lock-this-thread/559250/129):
>
> After all, you’re a genuine _asset to this message board_ and the Straight Dope, because given the “nature” of your posts you likely generate _oodles_ of page hits for advertisers. […] I for one am glad - damn glad! - to see you take your brave stand against…what are the code words the snarkers use again? Oh yes, _capricious Moderation_ which casts a _chilling effect._ I do hope I got that right! […] I simply thought that since you try to cast yourself as a straight-shootin’ Annie Oakley who’s interested in the facts and who has a strong moral sense of honour

> [@Tuba Diva, why did you lock this thread?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tuba-diva-why-did-you-lock-this-thread/559250/134):
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> I want to be a tuff grrl straight-shooter just like she is, so I’m calling it like I see it. She schooled me what stupid questions were, and I now follow her teachings. How can you fault me for trying to reach for that rainbow? She’s special!

100% of what I’ve quoted is about _me_. 0% of it is about _my arguments_ in the ATMB threads.

> [@](#):
>
> In fact, if I were her, I’d get a lot of satisfaction out of the fact that you got so upset you started another Pit thread. She’s only doing to you what you did to **rachellelogram** and others.

Please show anywhere outside the Pit where I’ve attacked **rachel**. Oh wait, you can’t. Because _I_ understand how to tell the difference between the Pit and the rest of the boards.

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**Author:** ![Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acorns.but_not_Bacon)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/57 "2010-11-13T16:41:43Z")

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**Shot From Guns** , shut up.

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/58 "2010-11-13T18:26:04Z")

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> [@Acorns.but\_not\_Bacon](#):
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> **Shot From Guns** , shut up.

Oh yeah? Why don’t YOU shut up!

Ba-ZING.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/59 "2010-11-13T19:36:47Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> It’s like \*\*Una \*\*and I were in a boxing ring, and I punched her in the head. She didn’t like being punched in the head, but tough shit–she shouldn’t have gotten in the ring. But because she didn’t like being punched in the head, she then followed me to the bar down the street, where she proceeded to stand there and jab me in the back repeatedly while I was just trying to have a drink, where if I turned around and punched her again, I’d be arrested.

This bit reminds me of Bukowski’s short, _Class_. I can’t find a link to just this story, and I really don’t want to be responsible for the whole book, so here it is below. Sorry to paste an entire story, but I think you can see what I mean:

\<snip\>

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/60 "2010-11-13T20:18:21Z")

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Great story. Is Henry gonna eventually beat up Una Person or Shot From Guns? Oh, I get it. Una Person or Shot From Guns is represented in the story by the society broad - rich, educated, nice body, nice face, nice clothes. But then in the end she turned out to be a shallow materialistically cheap slutty bitch.

So which one is she? Una Person or Shot From Guns?

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