# Una: Go Drink a Juicebox **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481 "2010-11-12T21:11:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/61 "2010-11-13T20:53:38Z")
I’m confused. I don’t much care for Una Person anymore, so I wanted to get all excited when I saw her name in this forum, but am I right in understanding that she is being pitted for asking for clarification of some obscure Facebook trend? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/62 "2010-11-13T21:14:51Z")
Oy vey. I can’t imagine this is actually fun for you anymore, **Guns**. ---
**Author:** ![cards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@cards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cards)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/63 "2010-11-13T21:31:03Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > I’m confused. I don’t much care for Una Person anymore, so I wanted to get all excited when I saw her name in this forum, but am I right in understanding that she is being pitted for asking for clarification of some obscure Facebook trend? Color me befuddled also. If someone isn’t in the know about something, that’s ignorance, not stupidity, and isn’t that very motto of the board, to fight ignorance? I will answer questions on marketing and statistics when I come across them (usually someone else has already done a better job than I could), that are often very basic. I don’t make fun of them for not knowing something they haven’t been exposed to. There’s no shame in ignorance on a topic you haven’t seen before. Remaining willfully ignorant however, is a form of stupitity, which I don’t think I’ve ever seen from Una. I don’t get this whole train wreck. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/64 "2010-11-13T22:06:07Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > am I right in understanding that she is being pitted for asking for clarification of some obscure Facebook trend? Not really, although assorted knuckleheads have followed **Shot From Guns** ’s lead in ragging **Una** over the question itself. But what **Una** is actually being pitted for is snarking at **SFG** in another forum, which **SFG** believes she did only because of a grudge over being insulted in this one. Una’s question wasn’t stupid at all, and was immediately addressed by a couple of other dopers with perfectly reasonable responses. _Three days later_, **SFG** felt compelled to jump into the thread with her insult-comic shtick and drop this turd: > [@The web is public domain? Thanks for the info, Cooks Source magazine!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-web-is-public-domain-thanks-for-the-info-cooks-source-magazine/559487/127): > > It’s called “humor.” I realize this may be a foreign and difficult concept. If you find yourself getting confused, try lying down and watching some public access educational television until the room stops spinning. And she calls that “answering the question”: > [@The web is public domain? Thanks for the info, Cooks Source magazine!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-web-is-public-domain-thanks-for-the-info-cooks-source-magazine/559487/156): > > And, you’ll note, I \*did \*answer your question–I just \*also \*poked fun at you for not realizing it yourself. Of course, **SFG** missed the whole _point_ of **Una** ’s question. I don’t doubt for a second that **Una** recognized the posts she was referring to as jokes (or at least intended as such). She was asking about the _nature_ of the jokes: why did they take the form of bizarre non-sequiturs about AIDS and missing socks? It’s as if I had made a post in LOLspeak and someone asked “What’s with all the weird misspellings in that post?” Replying “It’s a joke, you fool! Don’t you have a sense of humor?” wouldn’t be a very intelligent way to address that question. Nor was **SFG** ’s. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/65 "2010-11-14T00:10:38Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Judging by your posts in this thread, you’re lucky to find your mouth with the food. Actually, that’s one of my few skills. No luck at all involved there. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/66 "2010-11-14T02:38:54Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > This bit reminds me of Bukowski’s short, _Class_. I can’t find a link to just this story, and I really don’t want to be responsible for the whole book, so here it is below. Sorry to paste an entire story, but I think you can see what I mean: > > \ Please do not post entire works on the straightdope. Please review our fair use policy. **Gfactor** Pit Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/67 "2010-11-14T04:51:36Z")
> [@cards](#): > > Color me befuddled also. \I don’t get this whole train wreck. Me neither. **Una** posted something, **SFG** posted something else, a bunch of people jumped in on it, chaos ensued. That’s all I got out of it. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/68 "2010-11-14T05:34:03Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > I’ve learnt three things from this brouhaha, so it’s been a good day already. > > 1. SFG is female > 2. SFG apparently has lots of friends/supporters on the boards > 3. SFG has also an apparently long-established reputation for being edgy/snarky/“saying what she thinks.” > > All three of those things are news to me. Still, there you go… An educational day on the boards. I was pretty stunned to learn SFG had friends, too. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/69 "2010-11-14T05:41:49Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > As for the topic of this thread–do you really not get that all of us in this place are still people, who will still get their feelings hurt, and that we might not leave it in the Pit? There are still repercussions for what you say in the Pit. Oh shut up already, Pollyanna. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/70 "2010-11-14T11:18:43Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > I was pretty stunned to learn SFG had friends, too. I was just surprised to discover she was so well-known, too. I mean, generally I’ve recognised the username as “one of the regular posters” but beyond that- nothing. Didn’t even know SFG was female until this whole thing came along. So not only was I a surprised by the level of vitriol in the thread, I was astonished to learn this is apparently not only par for the course but seen as a positive attribute by so many people. Like I said, educational. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/71 "2010-11-14T12:13:22Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > [Juicebox is a pretty awesome song.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoltwBHXCx8) This is the only thing of value I’ve gotten from this thread. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/72 "2010-11-14T14:44:14Z")
My favorite part of juice in a box is when you get to the very end and you inflate the box and the last bit of juice comes gushing through the straw. It’s fun. ---
**Author:** ![padabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@padabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/padabe)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/73 "2010-11-14T15:03:02Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > I was just surprised to discover she was so well-known, too. I mean, generally I’ve recognised the username as “one of the regular posters” but beyond that- nothing. Didn’t even know SFG was female until this whole thing came along. So not only was I a surprised by the level of vitriol in the thread, I was astonished to learn this is apparently not only par for the course but seen as a positive attribute by so many people. > > Like I said, educational. Manufactured outrage can be entertaining, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/74 "2010-11-14T15:27:35Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > I was pretty stunned to learn SFG had friends, too. she’s cute, female, and plays wow. On the Internet, that’s pretty much the guarenteed friends trifecta. She could be the most evil self centered screeching harpy bitch on the planet and still have hundreds of guys lining up to eat ten pounds of her shit for the chance to kiss her ass. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/75 "2010-11-14T15:37:10Z")
> [@cards](#): > > Color me befuddled also. If someone isn’t in the know about something, that’s ignorance, not stupidity, and isn’t that very motto of the board, to fight ignorance? (…) > Remaining willfully ignorant however, is a form of stupitity, which I don’t think I’ve ever seen from Una. I don’t get this whole train wreck. I feel silly prolonging this thread. ( **Una** has said she was feeling overworked and sick) but for some reason want to offer my take. In the Cook’s Source thread, people were ragging on the editor of that magazine, who was an exceptionally clear villain: ignorant, unethical and arrogant. She stole copyrighted content from a nice person and then told the person to feel grateful for getting her content edited for free. But there was a happy ending because it turned into an internet phenomenon. It’s rare to encounter such unambiguously contemptible behavior as the editor’s, and among other punishments, the Cook’s Source website was flooded. Much of that flood consisted of tongue-in-cheek comments about Cook’s Source being evil. (_Invented the waterproof teabag_ indeed.) **Una** ’s first post in that thread: _[INDENT]What is it with all those idiotic posts over there saying things like “Cooks Source gave AIDS to Africa” and “Cooks Source takes single socks out of your dryer. Now you know.” I don’t do Facebook…is this just random trolling, or are they trying to load up a search engine, or is it just the usual lobotomized dumbasses?[/INDENT]_ ## Yes, the question seemed cantankerous and silly, because that form of internet posting is extremely common – _including on SDMD._ Someone above compared it the series of posts about Chuck Norris. BUT!! –It was also the first post in the thread to attack the attackers, who were not at all the bad guys in this controversy. –It was out-of-the-blue hostile toward people that a lot of posters in the thread thought were at least occasionally clever. –It was (again) cantankerous and get-off-my-lawnish: “Idiotic!” “Trolling!” “Lobotomized dumbasses!” I’d say that if **Una** set herself up for some (mild) snark. Her post’s tone was Pittish, not GQish. However, the thing that made **Una** ’s behavoir worth a new pit thread is that she went to ATMB and made insults toward **Shot From Guns** that were clearly referencing the exchange in the Cook’s Source thread. **SFG** responded to her there, basically asking What The Fuck? and **Una** entered Bizarro World by telling **SFG** that she shouldn’t bring Pit business into ATMB. Which **Una** herself had just done! Hence this thread we are now in. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/76 "2010-11-14T20:05:39Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Really? You don’t think it’s threadshitting for someone to post in a thread for no other reason than to harass the OP, because they felt that the OP harassed them in the Pit? When they have _literally nothing_ to say about the topic of the thread itself? Because if you can find _a single phrase_ in any of **Una** ’s posts in that thread that in any way address the topics of (a) why \*\*Tuba \*\*locked the previous thread or (b) whether moderators should be required to recuse themselves if they have a demonstrable interest in the discussion, I’d like to see it. No, that’s pretty clearly not thread shitting. Thread shitting is when you attack the basic premise of a thread. Going into a “Who’s your favorite Harry Potter character?” thread to talk about how much Harry Potter sucks is thread shitting. Since the topic of the ATMB thread wasn’t, “Let’s talk about how wonderful **Shot From Guns** is,” going in there to say that you’re less than wonderful isn’t thread shitting. > [@](#): > > Of course it’s an adequate response. You just don’t like it because my behavior isn’t your behavior. When people say stupid things in the Pit, I’m allowed to point out that they’re stupid; and when I do so, you’re allowed to think I’m a terrible boor. Everybody wins! Alright. I just wanted to make sure that you understood that posting in the pit is an opportunity to be an asshole, not an requirement. From your earlier response, it seemed you might not have grasped the distinction. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/77 "2010-11-14T23:22:27Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > No, that’s pretty clearly not thread shitting. Thread shitting is when you attack the basic premise of a thread. Going into a “Who’s your favorite Harry Potter character?” thread to talk about how much Harry Potter sucks is thread shitting. Since the topic of the ATMB thread wasn’t, “Let’s talk about how wonderful **Shot From Guns** is,” going in there to say that you’re less than wonderful isn’t thread shitting. Seems a pretty narrow definition of threadshitting. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/78 "2010-11-15T02:18:25Z")
Now go home and get your fuckin’ juicebox. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/79 "2010-11-15T02:19:59Z")
> [@drachillix](#): > > she’s cute,…and plays wow. These two ideas are mutually exclusive. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481/80 "2010-11-15T03:45:26Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > These two ideas are mutually exclusive. And yet each has a factual basis. It’s more: “Attractive, geeky (or sane), and single: choose two.” This holds true more often than some established physics theories. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/una-go-drink-a-juicebox/560481.md?page=5)