# Unabashed rant: What I object to about specific movies **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 18, 2000, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770 "2000-11-18T19:58:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2000, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/41 "2000-11-21T17:04:11Z")
On a lighter note, my gripe has to do with the portrayal music in movies (and on TV). Why is it that all you need is to start singing and suddenly a) everyone around you knows all the words and music and choreography; and b) there’s a backing band (in scenes where someone’s playing an instrument you frequently hear other instruments as well). About the only people I know who can get together and reel off an unrehearsed musical masterpiece are veteran jazz musicians – everyone else (even highly trained classical musicians) has to rehearse together at least once. The only movie I don’t gripe about when this happens is The Blues Brothers. But then, the image of an entire neighborhood stopping suddenly to dance to Ray Charles in perfect synch is way too much fun to complain about. jr8 ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2000, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/42 "2000-11-21T18:47:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jr8 \* > **On a lighter note, my gripe has to do with the portrayal music in movies (and on TV). Why is it that all you need is to start singing and suddenly a) everyone around you knows all the words and music and choreography; and b) there’s a backing band (in scenes where someone’s playing an instrument you frequently hear other instruments as well).** Well, what about musicals like _The Wizard of Oz_ where characters sing and there is music backing them up and yet no musicians are present?!?! It’s called “artistic license.” It’s one of the conventions of the form. It’s a fantasy that a random group of people can get up and sing and dance together in perfect pitch, harmony, timing and choreography and they all know all the lyrics. And it’s all designed to convey thought and feelings in a way different from straight-forward dialogue and acting. Sheesh! > [@](#): > > **But then, the image of an entire neighborhood stopping suddenly to dance to Ray Charles in perfect synch is way too much fun to complain about.** Well, maybe you DO understnad. I suggest to poor **dougie** that he not watch _American Beauty_. In this movie, which won the Oscar for Best Picture, a middle-aged man fantasizes about making love to a high school girl. He never actually does it, he just fantasizes about it. Does this make him a pedophile?!?!?! No. Does it mean this movie endorses pedophilia?!?!?! No. Will it turn someone into a pedophile?!?!?!?! No. _IT’S JUST A FREAKIN’ MOVIE!!!_ Thank you. **djf750** : You are an idiot. There are some very real problems in this world and violence against women in particular and violence in general certainly are important, but the scenes in those movies are in there to show you what those characters are like, that Tom Cruise’s character had lost his humanity in becoming a vampire and Brad Pitt’s character was still struggling to retain his humanity, if I recall the movie correctly. Only a supremely warped brain would watch these scenes and think, “Oh, great! This movie’s giving me permission to rape and kill women! Hot dog! Now I know what to do after the movie!” A supremely warped brain might come to the same conclusion after reading the Bible. In fact, one bastard defended his torturing and killing his children by claiming the Bible said a father may kill his children if he so desires. But we ain’t gonna blame the Bible for that, are we? ---
**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2000, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/43 "2000-11-21T19:10:19Z")
Dougie said in an above post that he has schizophrenia and my (admittedly extremely limited) understanding, people who suffer from this disease have difficulties with reality. It’s obvious he’s pained by some of what he’s seen on the screen and avoiding movies altogether may very well be what’s best for his well-being. I don’t think he should be ridiculed for this. ---
**Author:** ![egkelly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/db5fbb/32.png) [@egkelly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/egkelly)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2000, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/44 "2000-11-21T19:16:12Z")
…how in “TITANIC”, when Jack Dawson (Leo DiCaprio) escapes being drowned in the compartment (up to his neck in icy seawater), then fights his way up to the main deck, his clothes are absolutely dry? ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2000, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/45 "2000-11-21T19:40:08Z")
The same way that Robinson Crusoe can strip naked, swim out to the wreck of his ship, and then fill his pockets with goodies! (book, not movie) Gr8kat- I wasn’t making fun because he has schizophrenia. In fact, I was gonna ask what the hell did bad movies have to do with schizophrenia in the first place, but you may have explained it. If I had a problem dealing with reality, I would be damn sure to accept movie or book recommendations from people who understood my situation and were careful with their suggestions. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2000, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/46 "2000-11-21T23:18:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dougie\_monty \* > \*\*Saint Zero, you talk much like my own bellicose older brother–with whom I have long since ceased trying to discuss movies, or much of anything. (He is in the doghouse with the rest of the family for reasons I won’t go into here.) > \*\* I don’t blame him in the slightest. Sounds like someone with brains to me. Your brother, that is. > [@](#): > > \*\* > (I have been diagnosed as schizophrenic by five psychiatrists; I’m far from proud of it. :() > Walk a mile in my moccasins before you put me on any of your “lists.” \*\* So… am I supposed to feel sorry for you? Boo Hoo. You are schizophrenic. Oh, I’ve insulted you. Gosh, I’m a slimeball. Nah… what I really mean is **Fuck You**. You are on the list, buddy. I don’t feel sorry for you. Find it elsewhere. If you have problems with the movies and can’t tell fiction from reality, find a rubber room and move in. I know plenty of people who actually have your problem, and they manage fine. Not all the time, but they did understand the difference between movies and real life. ---
**Author:** ![Mauve\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@Mauve\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauve_Dog)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2000, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/47 "2000-11-22T06:17:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by djf750 \* > **let me ask you this mauve dog: > if a movie was made where a bus load of kindergarten kids was shot up and they graphically showed small children being blown away, would you view it as “just a movie”? or would you maybe think, that was a little too over the top?** Ever see **The Siege**? Ok, so maybe it didn’t show a busload of small children being blown away, but it did show a busload of elderly folks being blown up. Over the top? Not at all, considering the theme. And you know what? I wasn’t offended in the least. Why? because _I knew it was just a movie_. You know, squibs of karo syrup (or whatever they use nowadays), carefully orchestrated explosions, stunt people flying through the air, that sort of thing. Same thing would apply to the busload of children. If I saw it on the _news_, it would upset me (ever hear of Chowchilla?). I can, however, separate fantasy from reality, and can enjoy a _movie_, no matter how over-the-top it might be. \*\* > [@](#): > > and my point about “vampire” was that the scene was done with this odd comical theme while the woman screamed in terror just as a woman would scream in real life-the vampires were just a couple of good looking guys having some fun-VAMPIRES ARE NOT REAL MAUVE DOG!\*\* _Really?!_ Wow…thanks for pointing that out. :rolleyes: So, you can accept that vampires are not real, but the violence and terror they inflict _is_ real? The whole idea was, as **jab1** said, to show that they had lost, or were losing, their humanity. Humans had become playthings, much as a cat might play with a mouse before killing it and eating it. The women screaming as one might scream in real-life is called _acting_. Do you really think they were terrified? \*\* > [@](#): > > this movie simply glorified the murder and humiliation of women, which seems to be ok and then it ended with a big laugh at the end-and meanwhile women are murdered every day FOR REAL \*\* Yes they are…but not by vampires. Or by people pretending to be vampires. They are murdered by psychotic individuals who would exist in society regardless of whether movies depicted violence or not. Besides, Louis (Pitt’s character) made it pretty clear that he was _not_ OK with what LeStat (Cruise’s character) was doing. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2000, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/48 "2000-11-22T10:58:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jab1 \* > Well, what about musicals like _The Wizard of Oz_ where characters sing and there is music backing them up and yet no musicians are present?!?! > > It’s called “artistic license.” It’s one of the conventions of the form. It’s a fantasy that a random group of people can get up and sing and dance together in perfect pitch, harmony, timing and choreography and they all know all the lyrics. And it’s all designed to convey thought and feelings in a way different from straight-forward dialogue and acting. Sheesh! I was thinking less of “musicals” where all the action stops for the duration of the musical number and more of movies in which musical performance is part of the story. You start off with one person and a piano, and then suddenly the strings come in, and the oboe, and percussion and the choir… Yes, I know it’s only a movie and I shouldn’t gripe about these things, but it’s just the way I am. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2000, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/49 "2000-11-22T21:19:48Z")
> [@](#): > > quote: > Originally posted by dougie\_monty > The six items in _Back to the Future,_ put together, pushed me past the point of tolerance. Without a word to anyone I left, just after the sub-machine-gun attack, and went home, lest I lose my temper in the movie house and run > the risk of being thrown out or arrested. > [@](#): > > You missed out on a great movie. You were literally so _aghast_ at the machine-gunnin’ Libyans that you were forced to retire to the lobby, lest your anger get the better of you? What exactly did you object to? The stereotyping? The implausability? The movie is essentially an action-comedy. I may not have gone to the movies since 1987, but I have seen news stories since long before that (I remember the headlines about Orval Faubus and the integration of Little Rock Central High School in 1957); the situation with real-world terrorism in the 1980s being what it was, the terrorism in the movies was just surfeit. Incidentally, while I have not gone to the movies since 1987 (but I’ve seen ads for plenty of them; and at a friend’s urging I did see _Forrest Gump_ on video), I had been sent to the movies by my parents, along with a brother and sister, in the late 50s; after we moved I no longer went to the movies on a regular basis (and they included _Witness for the Prosecution, Vertigo, The Solid Gold Cadillac, Run Silent, Run Deep, The Last Voyage,_ and _Yellow Sky,_ to name a few); I have not gone to the movies _regularly_ since January 1960; after seeing _The Love Bug_ eleven years later I didn’t go to the movies again until 1982: _Time Bandits._ I also saw _Little Shop of Horrors_ and _Amadeus_ before the fiasco with _The Believers._ The content of contemporary movies being what it is, I consider it wise for me not to test my own temper. > [@](#): > > Dougie said in an above post that he has schizophrenia and my (admittedly extremely limited) understanding, people who suffer from this disease have difficulties with reality. It’s obvious he’s pained by some of what he’s seen on the screen and avoiding movies altogether may very well be what’s best for his well-being. I don’t think he should be ridiculed for this. I thank you, gr8kat, for this comment, although it’s likely no one else among the Teeming Millions may agree with me on movies–and I wouldn’t be surpised at all if this were the case–someone has at least attempted to offer a sympathetic comment. 🙂 Saint Zero, I see no reason to take this matter up with you. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2000, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/50 "2000-11-22T21:50:27Z")
Whatever dougie. I don’t give a shit what your mental illness is. That has little or nothing to do with what you have posted. You never said “I sometimes have a problem discerning reality from fantasy, so some movies have upset me very much and I don’t like it.” You made it sound like you just had a few pet peeves, and were going to bash them around in the Pit. But as soon as people engaged you about what you had posted, you played the “poor me” card. Well, fine, poor you. A thinly-disguised OP that is really about you hating everything but trying to hold your temper for the sake of the rest of the world. Don’t bother. And BTW, you have no idea what the content of contemporary movies is based on what you read in the fucking TV Guide. How someone who claims to have been alive in the 50’s can have such immature ideas is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2000, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/51 "2000-11-22T22:05:02Z")
> [@](#): > > And BTW, you have no idea what the content of contemporary movies is based on what you read in the fucking TV Guide. How someone who claims to have been alive in the 50’s can have such immature ideas is beyond me. FYI, I have _never_ based my appraisal of movies on commentary in _TV Guide._ However, now that you asked, I will here _quote_ a man whose letter was printed _in_ the _TV Guide,_ concerning more modern movies. (As I mentioned earlier, I see ads, on TV, in magazines, in newspapers, concerning movies; and, although I don’t go to the movies, I sometimes watch Roger Ebert’s half-hour program in which he gives reviews.) “What kind of movies can my _then_ eight-year-old daughter see when she grows out of Disney cartoons? Most of the movies in the theaters now are so violent and bawdy I don’t want to see them myself. I don’t even want to see ads for them on TV. And the reviewers, aside from Joe Queenan, consider these things ‘hip.’ Most of the movies made in the 60s were appropriate for young people. Now there are almost none.” > [@](#): > > A movie is supposed to be entertainment but for me it was nothing short of emotional torture. (I have been diagnosed as schizophrenic by five psychiatrists; I’m far from proud of it. ☹ ) > Walk a mile in my moccasins before you put me on any of your “lists.” In other words, since you now know that I mix with movies the way oil mixes with water: Lay off me. ---
**Author:** ![vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@vandal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vandal)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2000, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/52 "2000-11-23T00:51:02Z")
> [@](#): > > What I object to: female “lead” undressing in front of the camera as though it were vital to the plot. I’m with you on this one, iampunha. I just saw _Red Planet_ last week, and there’s a scene where Carrie Ann Moss announces to her crew that she is gonna take a shower. I’m thinking, “okay, that’s nice, she’s gonna take a shower.” But then, come the next scene, it shows her in the shower masked by a fogged up door. Next, it shows her exiting the shower from a side angle lifting her arm, so we’re able to see a side view of her breast (no nipple though) for a few seconds. Alright, now don’t get me wrong here, I’m all for T&A, _but in the right context_. This was just overly gratuitous. Yeah, I know, a lot of movies are like this, but this one is still fresh in my mind, and it contributed to the suck factor this movie has, among many other flaws in this film. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2000, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/53 "2000-11-23T02:11:36Z")
I object to cliches. They get so annoying. You know, someone jumping out of an exploding car/building/platypus. Sigh. That’s why I love Tarantino- he’s not afraid to show stuff that’s considered shocking. Ah and about Back to the Future? Dude, that’s a classic! You’re the first person I know who unashamedly hates it. 😛 Sorry I’m just a huge fan. I don’t think that Marty McFly was such a smartass. He was really cute, IMO- and there really wasn’t that much violence, compared to other films. It’s a “family-friendly” movie, other than the terrorist scene…and I’m not really into movies either, but I still love this one. Just my opinion on that… ---
**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2000, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/54 "2000-11-23T19:05:09Z")
Here I am, having just watched B2TF, and thouroughly enjoying it. Sorry, dougie, but you need to lighten up just a wee bit if this movie made you so angry you had to leave. Save it for movies that are actually offensive, like Lost in Space, which was offensive due to the shame it brought the original series. Oh, but dougie was right about the first scene. It IS in Doc Brown’s lab, with all the clocks. ---
**Author:** ![djf750](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@djf750](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/djf750)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2000, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/55 "2000-11-24T02:06:55Z")
Ever see **The Siege**? Ok, so maybe it didn’t show a busload of small children being blown away, but it did show a busload of elderly folks being blown up. Over the top? Not at all, considering the theme. And you know what? I wasn’t offended in the least. Why? because _I knew it was just a movie_. You know, squibs of karo syrup (or whatever they use nowadays), carefully orchestrated explosions, stunt people flying through the air, that sort of thing. Same thing would apply to the busload of children. If I saw it on the _news_, it would upset me (ever hear of Chowchilla?). I can, however, separate fantasy from reality, and can enjoy a _movie_, no matter how over-the-top it might be. first of all to that idiot who called me an idiot-i never said, and i dont believe, that violent movies cause MOST people to go out and commit violent acts- and to you mauve , so what you are saying is ANY act of violence is ok (including violence against children) since its just a movie? hollywood can graphically show anything as long as the actors aren’t really hurt in the production of the film? ---
**Author:** ![djf750](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@djf750](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/djf750)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2000, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/56 "2000-11-24T02:55:31Z")
oops i meant that part about “the siege” to be a quote from mauve -my bad! ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2000, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/57 "2000-11-24T17:47:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by djf750 \* > \*\*and to you mauve , so what you are saying is ANY act of violence is ok (including violence against children) since its just a movie? hollywood can graphically show anything as long as the actors aren’t really hurt in the production of the film? \*\* Hey personally I don’t think it really matters. If you don’t like a certain act of violence you have the power to turn off your TV, or not see a movie…you know? And why should violence against children be considered any worse than violence against those who are older? Seems a big age-ist to me… ---
**Author:** ![Mauve\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@Mauve\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauve_Dog)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2000, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/58 "2000-11-25T00:17:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by djf750 \* > and to you mauve , so what you are saying is ANY act of violence is ok (including violence against children) since its just a movie? hollywood can graphically show anything as long as the actors aren’t really hurt in the production of the film? \*\* Yup. As I said, it’s only a movie, no-one really gets hurt (unless, of course, there is an accident during filming). And I know this. Therefore, it doesn’t bother me. It’s a movie, not the evening news. Here’s just an example: I am incredibly squeamish. I pass out if I see my own blood, or anyone else’s. Heck, a few months ago I passed out just because I overheard one of my co-workers talking about her son’s mashed finger (it only caused a nasty bruise, no permanent damage)! However, I can watch any buckets-of-blood movie you care to mention. Why? Because I know it’s not real. It does not matter how real it may look on-screen; the mere knowledge that it’s an illusion bypasses my squeamishness. (As an aside, however, I do object to movies which gratuitously display people in high places. I am acrophobic, and such scenes, even though I know they, too, may not be real (even though some are, of course), _do_ affect me - my feet ache, my hands begin to sweat, and my heart beats faster. I object to them, but I still watch them anyway :D) ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2000, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/59 "2000-11-25T00:56:36Z")
The movie _Time Bandits,_ which I saw in 1982, included a Robin Hood scene with an element whose presence mystified me and which I considered unnecessary and sadistic. Although Robin’s Merry Men give gifts of money, etc., to the poor, one of them slugs the recipient viciously immediately afterward. One of the others asks Robin, “Was that necessary?” He answers “You know that it was.” Well, _ **I** _ don’t. Bill Murray’s movie _Stripes_ begins with Murray getting a shoeshine. When the guy finishes and asks for his money, Murray pulls a knife on him. This seems to be a throwaway bit and I wish that it _had_ been thrown away. Mel Brooks’ _Silent Movie_ includes a scene with Mel and Bernadette Peters on a merry-go-round; the wooden horse at one point lifts its tail and poops eleven dice the size of baseballs. What that is supposed to mean I may never know. According to a snippet run on a local news program, the movie _Fast Times at Ridgemont High_ included a dimwitted student getting a pizza delivered to him in class, to the outrage of his teacher. Another ostensibly meaningless throwaway bit. But to me, the worst offender before 1970 was the movie _It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World_ (1965). At the end, Spencer Tracy, seriously injured and facing the loss of his job, home, wife, and family (and perhaps winding up on skid row, drinking nail polish and throwing up into the gutter), sees a nurse slip and fall and laughs himself sick. Over my head. Pearls before swine, at its absolute best. I also find it necessary to point out that, since 1982, there are several instances in which I have _tried_ to endure a contemporary movie. Besides the elements (content) of the movie, the cost of a ticket and the _noise_ (people talking over the movie; or the extremely loud sound system) turn me off. It’s a combination of factors and, given current prices and conditions, it’s not likely I’ll go to the movies anytime soon. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2000, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770/60 "2000-11-25T04:56:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dougie\_monty \* > **According to a snippet run on a local news program, the movie _Fast Times at Ridgemont High_ included a dimwitted student getting a pizza delivered to him in class, to the outrage of his teacher. Another ostensibly meaningless throwaway bit.** I think it was just supposed to be funny. I never saw _Fast Times_ but I know 80’s movies are known for being anti-teacher/adult. It’s something that everyone has wanted to do. It’s like saying to your teacher, “Hey I **don’t** care about pre-calc, and I’m **not** afraid to let you know.” One of those things you could never get away with in real life, but could do in the movies… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unabashed-rant-what-i-object-to-about-specific-movies/41770.md?page=4)