# Unban Satan!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 7, 2003, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118 "2003-01-07T07:06:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/462 "2003-01-13T02:16:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \*  
> \*\*Nice try, but you didn’t even get that much right. I said that a rule should be made giving banned posters a date at which time they can be heard regarding reinstatement.  
> \*\*

Cute word-weaseling, but your assertion was

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> I specifically said that I was NOT talking about him.

I’d be interested in you showing where in that post you “specifically said” that you weren’t talking about **Satan**.

A statment like “I don’t think this rule should include **Satan** ” would be just fine, but, gee-whiz! I don’t see _anything_ like that in your post.

Perhaps you could show me how you weren’t lying when you claimed you “specifically said” that you were “NOT talking about” **Satan**. Hmmmm?

Fenris

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**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/463 "2003-01-13T02:45:46Z")

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Having read this entire exercize in re-opening old wounds, I have to wonder. WHY should there be a “petition for re-enstatement” date? The mods decided that certian posters are such a detriment to the boards that they must be restricted from ever posting here again. Why should that view change just because a couple years have passed?

I mean, it isn’t tough to keep in line here. You don’t be a jerk, you get to continue to post. Satan was a jerk, he got banned.

In my opinion, this thread was a really bad idea, **Joe**. A simple e-mail would have better served the purpose, without all the drama and ill feelings.  
I am begining to think that **Joe** was _hoping_ for the torment that occured with this thread.

I hope that if I ever get banned, (gods forbid), I am able to maintain a little more dignity than I have seen here.

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/464 "2003-01-13T03:16:52Z")

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> I mean, it isn’t tough to keep in line here.

Seriously.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/465 "2003-01-13T03:32:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by particlewill \*  
> WHY should there be a “petition for re-enstatement” date? The mods decided that certian posters are such a detriment to the boards that they must be restricted from ever posting here again. Why should that view change just because a couple years have passed?

Perhaps because their only defined choices are to ban a poster, or to let him continue posting? So the only way to say to a poster, “we think you could use a year or so off from the boards,” is to ban him, and leave the door ajar for him to apply for reinstatement at a later time (which is in fact what they do)?

Just a WAG, of course.

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**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/466 "2003-01-13T03:44:57Z")

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Hey, if it works, and the poster in question is truly recalcitrent, then let the poster petition away, as it seems Satan has done. But to set some kind of sentance, like a year, is silly.

Like it or not. Brian is banned. I agree with the mods that his LJ entries should be taken into consideration, and, like it or not, their word is final.

I kinda miss his contributions myself, but, you know what? There are several thousand others in line to take his place. Yes, he brought humor and some fun to the boards, but then so have several others who were also able to FOLLOW THE RULES. They continue to post. He cannot.

So I say Tough Shit. Let him play in some other sandbox.

This horse isn’t even a grease spot on the concrete, having been beaten so much. It is fast becoming an indentation of vaguely horse shaped proportions.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/467 "2003-01-13T03:46:56Z")

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**vanilla**.

I apologize for being a bit snarky above. You have been here longer than I, just that I forgot you were orangecakes, and peaches8 for awhile.

[sub]I think I need to stay out of the Pit[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/468 "2003-01-13T03:47:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \*  
> \*\*How about you read my post instead of acting like an ass? I specifically said that I was NOT talking about him.
> 
> “Good fuck” yourself. \*\*

Is that the same mouth you felch your cat with?

For _shame_.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/469 "2003-01-13T05:31:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \*  
> Perhaps because their only defined choices are to ban a poster, or to let him continue posting?

We do have another method, the warnings to a poster to stop being a jerk, and the warning that your next infraction will be your last. Of course in Satan’s case that proved spectacularly ineffective.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/470 "2003-01-13T05:41:19Z")

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Darn submit button! I wasn’t done yet.  
In addition, RTFirefly (I guess you haven’t read every post in this thread), to repeat what I said in a previous post, we have on occasion in the past suggested to posters that they take a temporary leave of absence from the board when they are becoming too antagonistic. And Satan himself took a self-imposed sabbatical.

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/471 "2003-01-13T06:15:08Z")

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Geez, you’d think by now I’d be over the it, my addiction to this stuff that is.

I’ve been reading this damn thread, and the other linked ones in the process, and I just can’t stop.

Could you imagine what daytime soaps would be like if they replaced all their characters with really intelligent and interesting people? Wow!

OR intelligent people on reality TV?

wait!.. something’s coming… YES!!! I got. 1000 Dopers on an island for 6 months.

FOX? TBS? anyone?

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/472 "2003-01-13T06:16:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Moe \*  
> \*\*Geez, you’d think by now I’d be over the it, \*\*

Prolly shoul’ve been “over _this_”.

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/473 "2003-01-13T06:19:22Z")

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Oh crap, don’t mind me. **Gaudere’s Law** was it?

Prolly should’ve been “over this”.

just to make sure:  
Probably should’ve been “over this”.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/474 "2003-01-13T07:49:37Z")

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Good God, isn’t this dead yet?

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/475 "2003-01-13T14:21:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by samclem \*  
> \*\*Of course you did, sweetie.
> 
> **Phaedrus** last posted in January, 2000.
> 
> You registered in March, 2000.
> 
> While you may have lurked, my guess is you didn’t follow the threads. \*\*

Well, wrong. I actually started posting June of 99, under the name **vanillanice** so I actully Did read many of his posts.  
Just to clear that up.

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**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/476 "2003-01-13T16:43:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fenris \*  
> \*\*Good fuck.
> 
> How many times must they say say “No”?  
> Get over it, or start your own fucking message board where you can set whatever guidelines trip your trigger.
> 
> Fenris \*\*

Fenris, many people think the banning and clemency procedure doesn’t meet the standards of fairness and equity established elsewhere on the board. **Joe\_Cool’s** musing on the process is a clear generalization that yes, stems from the dialogue generated about **Satan**.

Joe\_C makes at least this much clear: The moderators are welcome to ignore our input as they see fit – though one would hope the community has welcome input on more than just the best new Smilie.

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**Author:** ![BDS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3e96dc/32.png) [@BDS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BDS)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/477 "2003-01-13T16:57:54Z")

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I think Miroslav Satan is a hck of a goal scorer, but I question his commitment to defense.

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**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unban-satan/147118/478 "2003-01-13T17:16:29Z")

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Suggestion to the moderators; Put out a hit on this thread ( call the Soprano’s if you have too.) Go ahead and drop a dime on this baby. Or drop a nuke or just drop kick it off the boards. Joe has made his point and the mods have made theirs.

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