A simpler solution is to stay out of their land, how about that?
They have our trees , our farming land and our fish. Must be corrected.
Just to contrast and compare, Second Lieutenant Hiroo Onoda;
If by “destroying a small group” you mean killing them indiscriminately, this essentially constitutes extrajudicial execution without trial (if it includes the people who actually committed the crimes) and collective punishment (of those who did not personally commit the crimes). Such policies have been considered atrocities and rejected by most countries, especially democratic regimes, and rightly so. They are against the Geneva Convention. (Although the Convention doesn’t apply to treatment of one’s own nationals, it does set some standards for armed conflict that are generally adhered to.) Not that it doesn’t go on, but such policies would be a very good way to get your country considered an international pariah like Sudan. Only Godwin’s Rule restrains me from making further comparisons.
Yes, and to go further…for all intent they may as well be considered a protected species on the same level as wild animals.
Unless they are otherwise forced to become part of society (for whatever reason), or willingly do it, or they go out of their way to harm others they should be left alone.
If the occasional wandering logger gets attacked by one of the Tagaeri that’s the price to pay for going into that area. Just like you can expect to be attacked by a crocodile if you wade through the Nile.
Please tell me this and your earlier comment are a whoosh. I’m with Uncommon Sense on this issue.
That was a whoosh, **gonzomax ** has a wicked sense of humor at times. What I find scary is that **Derleth ** appears to be completely serious. I thought he was kidding at first.
Very interesting story.
Thank Og! I was pretty sure gonzomax’s first post was a whoosh, but the second made me wonder! I’m with you on Derleth’s posts.
Turns out that, yes, it’s a hoax.
If you look very carefully at the original picture, you can see they all have iPhones.
Yeah, but no matter how they explain them… their reaction is to shoot at them. They see huge, roaring, bizarre things flying above them, and shoot at them. These guys have guts. And balls. And… chutzpah.
begin with the onslaught of altered pictures showing various clues that they have had previous contact
i-phones would be a good start
Though perhaps it should be moved, or a new thread started in MPSIMS
I thought the point was that they were discovered in that the government knew they existed, but they were uncontacted in that there was no communication with them.
If only the media read Straight Dope. It seems that the media is now claiming it was a hoax because the tribe was already known. Of course the people who took the photos said they were known from the beginning, they just didn’t have contact with the outside world.
Good point, but nothing new.
The mass media NEVER covers any story involving complicated issues with enough depth to sort these things out.
Anything more complicated than “Man robs First National Bank of Smallville” is going to get mangled.
This situation has a common word “contacted” being used to mean a non-standard meaning of said word. The press is NEVER going to handle those distinctions properly.
Although it turns out that this particular tribe is a hoax, there may be other tribes still uncontacted in Papua New Guinea/Irian Jaya, and in South America. Wiki article on Uncontacted Peoples .
There was an episode of a television series that dealt with this very topic. I’m sorry that I’m unable to come up with the name of the television series - it was shown here in Canada around 1991/1992, was sponsored by The Body Shop and featured at least a dozen episodes, each focusing on a particular sociological/anthropological topic, hosted by a sociologist whose name totally escapes me. I apologize this level of vagueness in GQ, but I’m hoping someone might remember the name of the series and help me out.
My point in mentioning it at all is that one of the episodes centered around the search for an uncontacted tribe somewhere in the headwaters of the Amazon River. By the end of the episode, the group of scientists had located the tribe, paddled past in a canoe to take photographs with a telephoto lens from a great distance, but had made the decision not to make contact, and in fact, took great pains to study these people while avoiding contact.
2 possibilities here:
1: They hear from a savvy neighbor tribe that there are flying things that carry people who will come and wreck your village. No details necessary, just drive them away with arrows whenever they get too close.
2: File under “large inedible temporary noise sources” and forget about it. Irrelevant compared to pressing concerns on the ground.