# Undecided Voters?? Aggghhhhhhh
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [October 17, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066 "2012-10-17T20:59:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/1 "2012-10-17T20:59:35Z")
I gotta say, folks who sit there and say they are undecided drive me fucking insane, because I have not a clue what the fuck they expect to learn between now and the election? Obama has been President for almost four years now. Romney has been campaigning for a year, there is plenty out there on what he will do. So fucking figure it out and decide. Yes, I know you have until the election to actually vote, you self-appointed keepers of moderate purity and “reasoned” decision making.
Yeah, I get it, you don’t need to decide until the election so you are going to wait, because you never know, these guys could fundamentally change everything we know about them up to this point.
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### Author:  [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/2 "2012-10-17T21:11:33Z")
I believe these videos are relevant to this thread. [The Jimmy Dore Show](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk_hFPCpKi0) and [SNL skit](http://www.hulu.com/watch/404175).
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### Author:  [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/3 "2012-10-17T21:26:37Z")
I don’t think there are very many true undecided voters. In fact, just based on their questions I could pretty clearly tell who the “undecided questioners” were going to vote for at the debate last night (Libya guy for Romney, tax plan guy for Obama, etc…).
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### Author:  [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/4 "2012-10-17T21:39:51Z")
I think that most people have decided if they are going to vote FOR one or the other. The undecided ones are trying to decide who they’re going to vote AGAINST.
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### Author:  [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/5 "2012-10-17T21:42:30Z")
Eh, maybe. I work with more than a handful of people that are adamant to me that they are undecided, but just based on conversations with them I’d be very confident wagering on their ultimate vote.
I’m beginning to think that the swings in the polls are more a reflection on who’s feeling eager enough about politics to answer the phone.
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### Author:  [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/6 "2012-10-17T21:53:06Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> I think that most people have decided if they are going to vote FOR one or the other. The undecided ones are trying to decide who they’re going to vote AGAINST.
I’d say they haven’t decided whether or not they’ll vote at all. That or they don’t want to admit that they don’t give enough shits to vote but lack the stones to say it outright.
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### Author:  [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/7 "2012-10-17T22:05:39Z")
I think most undecideds are mostly disappointed President Obama supporters who are holding out hope that Governor Romney will give them some reason to pull his way.
I think 4 years ago that the most undecideds were disappointed President Bush supporters holding out hope that then-Senator Obama would give them some reason to pull his way.
Essentially, they are people who know which way they are leaning, but don’t really like that choice and want the opponent to do something…anything…to earn their vote.
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### Author:  [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/8 "2012-10-17T22:28:02Z")
Yeah… the True Undecideds really are the people who hate, hate, hate both their options… but don’t want to throw away their vote or not vote at all. This is a small subset of the population, but it actually makes sense. So don’t be too angry with them.
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### Author:  [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/9 "2012-10-17T23:40:22Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> I think that most people have decided if they are going to vote FOR one or the other. The undecided ones are trying to decide who they’re going to vote AGAINST.
Two birds, one stone…Gary Johnson. I have no faith in either Obama nor Romney.
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### Author:  [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/10 "2012-10-17T23:46:26Z")
> [@Jas09](#):
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> I don’t think there are very many true undecided voters. In fact, just based on their questions I could pretty clearly tell who the “undecided questioners” were going to vote for at the debate last night (Libya guy for Romney, tax plan guy for Obama, etc…).
I wonder how the Libya questioner feels today? He tried to lob a softball to Romney and it ended up leading to the biggest gaffe of the campaign so far.
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### Author:  [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/11 "2012-10-18T00:09:01Z")
Let me give you a little vignette starring an undecided voter…me.
Scene: Voting booth.
::Finger hovers over Obama’s name. Suddenly, a ghostly image of Obama appears::
“When I’m President, I’ll go line by line through the Federal budget and keep the things that work and fix the things that don’t.”
::Finger moves over to Romney’s name. His avatar appears::
“We’ll give tax cuts to the middle class while making sure the rich pay proportionally no less than they do today, but not giving them cuts.”
::Voter considers Obama again::
“I’ll lower unemployment to under 6% by 2011.”
::Back to Romney::
“I’ll start a trade war with China.”
::Voter nearly touches Obama’s name. Ghosts begin to brawl::
“Wait, wait! If elected, I promise to not prevent sequestration!”
“Oh yeah? Well I refuse to rule out ending the mortgage deduction!”
“Is that all you got? I’ll see if I can get some ambassadors killed!”
::Romney tackles Obama. The two wrestle. Enter Gary Johnson::
“Howzabout a flat tax and legalized weed?”
Fade to black.
And you wonder why I’m undecided.
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### Author:  [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/12 "2012-10-18T00:20:22Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> And you wonder why I’m undecided.
So… pretty much exactly what I predicted up thread? You hate both your options, but you’re leery about throwing your vote away?
I say that you just write in “The Lizard People” and have yourself a good laugh.
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### Author:  [@jerryp8472](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jerryp8472)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/13 "2012-10-18T00:51:05Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> I think most undecideds are mostly disappointed President Obama supporters who are holding out hope that Governor Romney will give them some reason to pull his way.
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> I think 4 years ago that the most undecideds were disappointed President Bush supporters holding out hope that then-Senator Obama would give them some reason to pull his way.
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> Essentially, they are people who know which way they are leaning, but don’t really like that choice and want the opponent to do something…anything…to earn their vote.
Agreed.
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### Author:  [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/14 "2012-10-18T01:08:54Z")
I think most undecided voters are lonely widowers who want some attention.
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### Author:  [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/15 "2012-10-18T01:09:46Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> And you wonder why I’m undecided.
The next President will probably get to nominate a couple of Supreme Court justices. Who do you want sitting on the court for the next 30 years? Someone like Scalia, or someone like Ginsburg?
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### Author:  [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/16 "2012-10-18T01:09:59Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> Two birds, one stone…Gary Johnson. I have no faith in either Obama nor Romney.
Oh HELL no. I’d vote for Romney before I’d vote for Johnson, and I’d only vote for Romney if someone was holding a gun to my head.
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### Author:  [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/17 "2012-10-18T01:14:44Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Oh HELL no. I’d vote for Romney before I’d vote for Johnson, and I’d only vote for Romney if someone was holding a gun to my head.
Couldn’t have said it better myself, except I’d probably even let them pull the trigger if it was my head. Now, if it was my boyfriend’s head, my sister’s head, or my cat’s head… I’d think about it.
But I’m sorry… you could shoot them all before I’d vote for Johnson.
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### Author:  [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/18 "2012-10-18T01:36:20Z")
I swear, I’m about ready to hit these people with a baseball bat. But I’m a nice guy, so I’ll get A-Rod to do it for me. I figure he’ll miss just about all of them.
You know, I realize that a lot of people don’t follow politics as closely as I do (or quite a lot of us here.) But how can you be undecided 20 days out after what seems like close to two years of campaigning, three debates, and God-only-knows how much advertising?
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### Author:  [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/19 "2012-10-18T02:14:54Z")
> [@asterion](#):
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> You know, I realize that a lot of people don’t follow politics as closely as I do (or quite a lot of us here.) But how can you be undecided 20 days out after what seems like close to two years of campaigning, three debates, and God-only-knows how much advertising?
Because after two years, it’s become background noise. It’s hard to pay attention after you’ve gotten in the habit of ignoring it.
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### Author:  [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/20 "2012-10-18T02:38:06Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> Two birds, one stone…Gary Johnson. I have no faith in either Obama nor Romney.
Ever vote. . . on WEED?
I’d sooner vote for CAVE Johnson. He’s got moxie. And moon-rock poisoning. But mostly moxie.
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