# Undecided Voters?? Aggghhhhhhh

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 17, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066 "2012-10-17T20:59:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/81 "2012-10-20T12:28:57Z")

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I’m not an undecided voter, but I will tell you I am undecided.  
Why?  
Because when somebody asks me who I’m voting for I think it’s more polite to say, “I don’t know yet” instead of “It’s none of your fucking business”.  
I’m not going to argue about it, it’s not open to discussion and I don’t have to justify my decision.  
Half of my family and friends will be pissed if I vote for Obama, the other half will be pissed if I vote for Romney.  
So my answer is, “I don’t know yet”.

Neither one of them is worth getting into an argument over.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/82 "2012-10-20T14:11:40Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> I don’t plan on voting, because I can’t really justify supporting either one of these asshats, but I suppose that something could happen to convince me otherwise between now and election day.

If you don’t know any women, or care about any, then go ahead and stay home.

_(If that’s the case, congrats. You get to stay home on voting day, and your life is quieter…)_

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/83 "2012-10-20T15:02:24Z")

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The Onion has endorsed John Edwards. So I’m no longer undecided.

> **[The Onion Endorses John Edwards For President](https://www.theonion.com/the-onion-endorses-john-edwards-for-president-1819574074)**
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> Choosing who should be entrusted to lead our nation’s government is not a responsibility that should be taken lightly, and never has that maxim been truer than in this current election cycle. Our economy is stagnant, our culture is dangerously...

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**Author:** ![Unpronounceable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9de0a6/32.png) [@Unpronounceable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unpronounceable)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/84 "2012-10-20T15:16:07Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Honestly, after Candy fact checked Romney the other night, I wonder how anyone could not have decided right there and then? Romney’s smug attitude leading to the _gotcha_ he planned backfired live on national TV leaving him with a pretty big foot in his mouth.
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> I’m thinking that may have been a pivotal point in many voter’s decision. If you’re still undecided, you’re not following the election. There’s more than enough material to allow for a decision.

_shrug_

It would have been a lot more impressive, had the fact-checker not fucked up.  
Romney’s complaint was that Obama hadn’t called the Libyan embassy attack a “terrorist attack.” In fact…he _didn’t_. He referenced terrorist attacks when he denounced it, but did not explicitly call it one.

So, while I have no intention of voting for Romney, that little incident was hardly going to be a deciding factor.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/85 "2012-10-20T18:42:37Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> Pretty much. This compounded by the fact that I don’t have a crystal ball and I can’t tell who is lying about what. Obama wants me to think he can create jobs. Romney wants me to think he won’t raise my taxes nor add to the deficit. Those are the primary lies in a long line of them.

See, I don’t think Obama can necessarily create jobs either.

I DO think Romney has the ability to completely destroy jobs, and that he will even if he doesn’t mean to. By the time we get true empirical evidence that fetishizing the rich will fuck us over, we’ll be fucked over.

Obama may not be able to bring us into a new era of peace and prosperity, but I’m also confident he won’t drag us down further into ruin. Right now, with the way the GOP is, I’m perfectly thrilled to just have stability.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/86 "2012-10-20T19:29:55Z")

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I personally ALWAYS refer to myself as “undecided” until the moment I vote. I may be 99.5% confident in how I’ll vote, but on principle I am open to new information until the moment I cast my ballot, because you never know what sort of astounding scandal might emerge. I find it logically bizarre to decide on September 15 how you’ve going to vote in November and conclude that you will be immune to all persuasion until then.

I suspect a lot of people think the same way and just answer “undecided” on principle. Or they just don’t feel like saying.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/87 "2012-10-20T19:56:06Z")

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Is it possible that a lot of these “undecideds” are really just hiding their choice to avoid confrontation? Why would you want to say on national TV that you’ll vote for, say Obama, and have your life under scrutiny on blogs and FB the next day? It seems a lot more likely to me.

As a person with a public persona (small niche) I avoid politics and religion outside my circle of friends like it’s the plague.

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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/88 "2012-10-22T03:33:50Z")

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> [@sahirrnee](#):
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> I’m not an undecided voter, but I will tell you I am undecided.  
> Why?  
> Because when somebody asks me who I’m voting for I think it’s more polite to say, “I don’t know yet” instead of “It’s none of your fucking business”.  
> I’m not going to argue about it, it’s not open to discussion and I don’t have to justify my decision.  
> Half of my family and friends will be pissed if I vote for Obama, the other half will be pissed if I vote for Romney.  
> So my answer is, “I don’t know yet”.
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> Neither one of them is worth getting into an argument over.

This is me this year, though usually I tell people voting is private and secret and I do NOT discuss politics.

But four years ago I truly was undecided, up until the moment I cast my vote.I truly could not make up my mind about which candidate would be the better leader and have the best interests of our country, and not their party, at heart.

There is another type of undecided voter out there, too…the ones who want to vote for the winner, not the loser. Who or what that person is really doesn’t matter that much to them, it is more important to be able to predict who will win and then vote for them. Sort of like betting on a horserace without using money…they just want the satisfaction of knowing they bet on the winner.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/89 "2012-10-22T18:54:51Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Oh HELL no. I’d vote for Romney before I’d vote for Johnson, and I’d only vote for Romney if someone was holding a gun to my head.

> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Ever vote. . . on WEED?
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> I’d sooner vote for CAVE Johnson. He’s got moxie. And moon-rock poisoning. But mostly moxie.

> [@Kevbo](#):
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> So Mitt and Barack are birds, and Gary is a …looks like you misspelled stoned.

When the Left and Right form a chasm the size of the Grand Canyon on issues where moderates like me have don’t feel comfortable on either side, then a third party will become more viable if this bullshit becomes the norm rather than the exception. Of course it will not happen this election, and it might not happen four years from now, but if these two parties keep consistently dividing a nation with abject lust and gusto, then there will be _some_ moderate party to go in there willingly to fill the chasm. That is why my vote is going _there_.

Again, I have no faith in either party. A vote for Johnson is a vote against the Left and Right and their bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/90 "2012-10-22T19:58:28Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> I’ll tell you exactly why I can’t stand the undecided voters. [this woman](http://gawker.com/5952622/teacher-who-asked-now+infamous-binders-full-of-women-question-at-debate-wasnt-impressed-by-either-candidates-response-is-still-undecided), who asked the question about women in the workforce, yet she is still undecided.
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> That’s right for an issue oh so important to her she still cannot decide between the guy who’s first act as President was to sign the Lily Ledbetter Act and the guy who apparently doesn’t know enough qualified women that he needs his team to get im a binder of women candidates, plus he knows they need to be home in time to cook dinner. She cannot decide between those two guys on an issue she seemingly really cares about.
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> Is she one person, yes. But seriously I am convinced that the undecideds either don’t care or like this woman lack the necessary cognitive skills to pull a level.

Yeah, but he said he wouldn’t block her access to birth control…a totally meaningless comment but I guess now she knows Mittens won’t personally tackle her if she gets near the condom display at CVS

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/91 "2012-10-22T21:35:06Z")

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“Yeah, I haven’t decided yet. I’m pretty ambivalent about politics.”

I’m not truly undecided, but I tell people I am as a diversionary tactic, because I don’t want to get into a discussion about it. There’s nothing like politics to bring out the nutjob in people. Funny how some people are adamantly opposed to people hoisting their religion on them, but they don’t see that hoisting their politics on me is equally obnoxious.

Now that I know it makes people crazy, it’s yet another reason to keep acting like I’m undecided.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/92 "2012-10-22T22:26:14Z")

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I don’t think the people who say they’re undecided when it comes up in casual conversation are the ones being pitted here. They’re not the type to be in the CNN focus groups.

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**Author:** ![humblebumble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@humblebumble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/humblebumble)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/93 "2012-10-22T23:01:39Z")

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[sarcasm] Let me guess. You’re mad because they aren’t voting for your guy, right? [/sarcasm]

Seriously though, they drive me crazy too. They should have decided on a candidate by now.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/94 "2012-10-23T22:30:30Z")

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How the hell am I supposed to decide? Neither Mormons nor Muslims are allowed to drink alcohol, so how can I determine which one I want to have a beer with?

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**Author:** ![humblebumble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@humblebumble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/humblebumble)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/95 "2012-10-23T22:54:08Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> I don’t plan on voting, because I can’t really justify supporting either one of these asshats, but I suppose that something could happen to convince me otherwise between now and election day.

I know what you’re thinking: Why vote for either the giant douche or turd sandwich? Sometimes, you just need to vote for the lesser of two evils. You should just vote to express your freedom because it’s the one freedom that we as Americans have.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/96 "2012-10-23T23:55:02Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> I don’t think the people who say they’re undecided when it comes up in casual conversation are the ones being pitted here. They’re not the type to be in the CNN focus groups.

Yeah, if you personally want to keep your opinions to yourself, good for you. We could use more of that. But if you don’t want to share your opinions because you don’t want to get hassled about it, I suspect you will not be volunteering to participate in focus groups hosted by national news organizations during a presidential debate.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/97 "2012-10-24T00:36:42Z")

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What’s the hurry?

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undecided-voters-aggghhhhhhh/638066/98 "2012-10-24T04:19:36Z")

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> [@humblebumble](#):
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> I know what you’re thinking: Why vote for either the giant douche or turd sandwich? Sometimes, you just need to vote for the lesser of two evils. You should just vote to express your freedom because it’s the one freedom that we as Americans have.

Why vote for the LESSER evil? Cthulu for Prez, baby!

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