# Undefeated at Wordle?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** board-card-word-game\
**Created:** [August 18, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903 "2022-08-18T18:04:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/21 "2022-08-19T00:30:33Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> ETA: this analysis is far beyond my usual approach to Wordle, so I expect I will fall into another trap at some point. But it’s fun to think about.

That’s literally as far as I got. It was more fun to start with random words and just play than to think two or three moves ahead. And also why I eventually lost.

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**Author:** ![Author\_Balk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Author\_Balk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Author_Balk)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/22 "2022-08-19T00:36:27Z")

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I have played 190 games. I lost one early. And I found a place where you can pick a day and play the word for that day. I played all of the rest of the games, plus went back and played the games prior to when i started. I won all of the games. My average was barely under 3.6.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/23 "2022-08-19T00:52:26Z")

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Curious about what game some of you are playing. I do Wordle on the NY Times site. I am not aware of “hard” or “easy” versions.

I am undefeated in the games I have played. If I don’t feel like I have absolutely figured it out after five guesses, I simply don’t guess again and leave the game unfinished. This means my **streak** isn’t very long, but I have played a lot of games and my win percent is 100. I don’t want to give that up, so I just don’t think of what I do as cheating, even though maybe it is.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/24 "2022-08-19T00:55:04Z")

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> [@kayT](#):
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> I do Wordle on the NY Times site. I am not aware of “hard” or “easy” versions.

Click the little settings icon in the top right corner - you’ll find a toggle for hard mode.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/25 "2022-08-19T01:01:39Z")

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Huh. Thanks. I don’t think I’m interested in making it harder! What actually changes when you do play “hard”? It says “any revealed hints must be used in subsequent guesses.” So, what is a “revealed hint”?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/26 "2022-08-19T01:06:56Z")

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All green letters must be used in their correct spots in subsequent guesses. All yellow letters must be incorporated somewhere in future guesses.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/27 "2022-08-19T04:20:34Z")

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You can, however, reuse a yellow letter in the same known bad spot.

As for the OP, you’re a week too late for me. I did have a streak of 198 wins in a row, but then suffered my only defeat six days ago. During that streak my average score was 3.702. The wordle that got me was hunky.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/28 "2022-08-19T08:23:21Z")

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GRUEL beat me recently. First loss in months. Hard mode.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/29 "2022-08-19T09:22:36Z")

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FLOCK got me, on 7/18.

**EARTH**  
**LIONS**  
**DUMPY**  
**WHACK**  
**BLOCK**  
**CLOCK**

X — FLOCK Wordle 394 X/6 on 7/18/2022

I also missed a day. Other than that, I’m undefeated.

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**Author:** ![TXRebel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6de8d8/32.png) [@TXRebel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TXRebel)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/30 "2022-08-19T15:06:34Z")

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Well I’m still on a streak. 105. I play on hard mode and I use irate as the starting word every time. I usually do it in 4. I’d say that’s my average.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/31 "2022-08-19T16:45:48Z")

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I’ve gotten out of the habit of playing regularly, but my laptop record is 86-0 and I think I had another dozen or so wins on my phone, but those somehow got wiped when it moved to the NYT.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/32 "2022-08-19T19:01:14Z")

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I’ve never lost but I got tired of it. After a certain point it’s a guessing game without skill and there’s little sense of accomplishment once you realize that.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/33 "2022-08-19T19:15:36Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> After a certain point it’s a guessing game without skill and there’s little sense of accomplishment once you realize that.

I played it a few times and must have come to this realization without being able to put it into words. Perhaps because one of the games I played had a multiple-possible single-letter situation (is there a name for that?) as discussed above.

Anyway, I didn’t care much for the game. Instead, I spend way too much time playing the NYT Spelling Bee.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/34 "2022-08-19T20:36:22Z")

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I lost fairly often. I’d say I can do streaks of 30-35 regularly and then I miss one. It’s usually a sort of random thing, where my word worked fine, but the answer was simply another choice.

I just do it to do it. It’s more about reducing it down to the right word rather than any particularly big word challenge.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/35 "2022-08-19T21:27:41Z")

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It’s a game of logic, similar to Mastermind. Not just luck.

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**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/36 "2022-08-20T00:09:04Z")

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My longest streak was 119. Failure hurt more than expected.

I ate an extra planet in retaliation.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/37 "2022-08-20T23:18:53Z")

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> [@whitetho](#):
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> The next word, which I was unable to guess, was foyer.

This is the exact word I lost on. Still my only defeat to date, and it irks me to no end.

Though I came very close to losing on KHAKI recently.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/38 "2022-08-21T00:06:09Z")

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Well I just lost my second Wordle today. Two losses, since Christmas Eve 2021. DAMN!

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/39 "2022-08-21T00:47:22Z")

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I have no way of counting, but it had been a long time since I failed with ‘khaki’. Now I actually avoid words that are too common, since I assume they would have been used already.

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**Author:** ![Author\_Balk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Author\_Balk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Author_Balk)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undefeated-at-wordle/969903/40 "2022-08-21T11:59:31Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> Now I actually avoid words that are too common, since I assume they would have been used already.

FYI… I have played all the words in order all the way to “the end” (in 2027). The words seem scrambled. They do not get easier or harder.

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