# Underdog Cartoon Question

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [February 23, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575 "2005-02-23T18:55:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author: ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/41 "2005-02-24T18:05:10Z")

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Someone who knows more heraldry than me is sure to come in with more info, but I have to comment. I had heard that a bar could not be dexter or sinister because it runs straight across the shield. A bend can be sinister, because it runs diagonally. So you can have a bend sinister, but not a bar sinister.

Also heard that the bend sinister was never really a requirement for a bastard. There were several devices that could be used to tell different members of a family apart, and some of them were more often used for a bastard, but it wasn’t really standardized. I’m guessing that it became a literary device in later times and/or part of heraldry bookkeeping in certain areas long after heraldry had stopped being part of actual wars.

Feel free to correct me.

Liked Underdog when I was little. Still like the song. Loved the 3DBB. Always hated Polly singing. That song just sounded so whiney.

Didn’t the cloud people end up trading some of their ‘useless’ gold for silver in the end? See. If people would just talk instead of wreaking havoc and pillaging. . .

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### Author: ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/42 "2005-02-24T18:15:47Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> And people wonder why many of the kids who grew up in the 60’s and 70’s became so excessively attracted to drugs?

Underdog wasn’t the only one, either, don’t forget his contemporary Roger Ramjet.

_When Ramjet takes his proton pill  
The crooks begin to worry…_

And what was the name of that short-lived '60s live-action show about the goofy superhero who took a pill which turned him various colors while it was taking effect?

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### Author: ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/43 "2005-02-24T18:18:34Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> So you can have a bend sinister, but not a bar sinister.

I just know that I first got the joke when I happened on the phrase “bar sinister” in a dictionary.

By the way, we had a big ol’ gray tomcat named Simon Bar Sinister when I was a kid.

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### Author: ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/44 "2005-02-24T19:36:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Savoir Faire eez EVERYWHERE!

> [@](#):
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> That was Klondike Cat (Kat?). He’s not currently being shown with the Bullwinkle Show that runs early in the morning, so he may have showed up on Underdog.

During the Reagan administration, I used to go around saying “I hate meeses to pieces!”.

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### Author: ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/45 "2005-02-24T19:42:37Z")

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> [@sqweels](#):
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> During the Reagan administration, I used to go around saying “I hate meeses to pieces!”.

That was Jinx the Cat, not Klondike. He hated his little housemates, Pixie & Dixie…

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### Author: ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/46 "2005-02-24T20:13:41Z")

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- 

Out west in Gopher Gulch lived Indian tribe.  
Then come the pioneers, pushed them aside.  
All Indians leave but two, they vow to fight.  
What can two Indians do?  
(Ooga-booga, booga, booga Ooga-booga-BOO!)

Go go gophers, watch them go go go.  
Go go gophers, watch them go go go.

Here comes the colonel with his sargeant,  
Both are a-roarin’ and a-chargin’.  
Go go gophers, watch them go go go.  
\*

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### Author: ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/47 "2005-02-24T20:40:55Z")

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Was the Underdog/Tennessee Tuxedo/Go-Go Gophers Hour the same block that featured the Three Musketeers? That show drove me to endless fury—not only was it terribly written and animated (even as a kid who would watch anything animated, I knew this), it always featured the same premise in which the young “wannabe” musketeer would always break the rules and end up saving the day, only to be sent to bed without his supper for breaking the rules, while the older musketeers laughed at and ridiculed him. What a neat little lesson in the monstrous unfairness of being a kid in an adult world.

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### Author: ![Papermache\_Prince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@Papermache\_Prince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Papermache_Prince)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/48 "2005-02-24T22:17:25Z")

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Hanna-Barbera did _The Three Musketeers_ for _The Banana Splits Action Hour_, although I suppose it’s possible that some latter omnibus program included them with Tennessee Tuxedo.

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### Author: ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/49 "2005-02-24T22:30:05Z")

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> [@Papermache Prince](#):
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> Hanna-Barbera did _The Three Musketeers_ for _The Banana Splits Action Hour_, although I suppose it’s possible that some latter omnibus program included them with Tennessee Tuxedo.

More likely I just combined them in my memory. Thanks. Damn show …

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### Author: ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/50 "2005-02-24T22:42:52Z")

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Did someone mention Felix the Cat?

\*Felix the cat  
the wonderful, wonderful cat  
whenever he gets in a fix  
he reaches into his bag of tricks

Felix the cat  
the wonderful, wonderful cat  
you’ll laugh so hard  
you’re sides will ache  
you’re heart’ll go pitter pat  
watching Fexlix, the wonderful Cat\*

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### Author: ![Danalan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@Danalan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danalan)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/51 "2005-02-24T23:21:07Z")

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> [@Trunk](#):
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> Aw, Sweet Polly Purebred. . .I woulda doggied that bitch something fierce. When she bent over, that skirt would ride up the back of her legs, looking like a dirty filthy librarian.
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> God, she had to have it.
> 
> “Where, oh where, has my Underdog gone?”
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> “Right behind ya, Toots. . . RUFF!”

If this wasn’t so damn hilarious, it would be disturbing. Or maybe it’s hilarious because it’s disturbing.

Disturbing because it’s hilarious? Oh hell – great post! Thanks. 🙂

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/52 "2005-02-24T23:34:50Z")

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When I was a tot, I thought that calling him Underwear Dog was the height of hilarity.

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### Author: ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2005, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/53 "2005-02-24T23:48:19Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> But SbS (anyway, if he’s Jewish, shoudn’t it be Simon _ben_ Sinister?)

Not necessarily–I have a Jewish friend whose last name is barNir. I think both are used but I don’t know what the difference is.

> [@Johnny L. A.](#):
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> Has anyone mentioned Felix the Cat? When were those made? I remember one of the villains was Rock Bottom (henchman of The Professor).

Another Felix villain was Master Cylinder. I still remember the first time I heard of this in conjunction with a car and wondered why they named part of a brake system after a Felix the Cat villain… 🙂

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### Author: ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2005, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underdog-cartoon-question/291575/54 "2005-02-25T01:11:07Z")

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In at least one case, Felix’s pal Poindexter was the villain, in little-kid _cum_ mad-scientist-run-amok mode. IIRC, it was when the Professor went out to the opera, and he had Felix babysit his nephew, Poindexter, who simply _would not_ stop inventing destructive gadgets and go to bed.

Usually, though, it was the Professor who acted as Felix’s nemesis, often with Rock Bottom as henchman. Bottom has also acted villainously on his own, and once played an innocent guy just trying to enjoy his vacation.

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