# Underrated sequels **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 10, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209 "2015-06-10T21:49:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/1 "2015-06-10T21:49:15Z")
Mainly movies, but I guess books or TV are just fine as well. Sequels tend to disappoint, but some people are overly critical of some sequels and those sequels deserve more credit. What sequels do you think aren’t as bad as some people say? My list, at least that I think of right now: 1. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - Ouch. Yeah, I’m going there. This movie fits in and is a fine sequel to the other 3. I’d rank it 3rd or 4th, but it is by no means way behind the other ones. This movie is no Phantom Menace or Matrix Revolutions. It is actually really good. 2. Neverending Story 2 - OK, this one is fairly bad, but the effort is there and they were at least trying to craft a good movie. It fails in some parts, but the main error is that they made the main character the same as the first movie. They should have ignored Bastian and made up a new dude and had him follow the second half of the book instead of re-inserting the Bastian again. 3. X-men 3 - Hey, I like this movie, but only as an ending, which they obviously have not stuck with. I don’t get the total hate. It’s no X2, but it is a solid movie. Ratner sucks, but this isn’t that bad. 4. Red Dragon - Wait, another Ratner movie? Weird. I know it is a prequel, but this is way better than Hannibal and a really good movie. Weird that Ratner did this one well as well. 5. Fierce Creatures - OK, now I’m cheating. Not a sequel to Fish Called Wanda, but nearly and it is almost as good. I know we had a whole thread appreciating this movie, but this movie was ignored by the vast majority and it is one of the great late 90’s comedies. This is my starter list. What sequels do you think are underrated? Prequels count, since they are made after the original. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/2 "2015-06-10T21:57:32Z")
I always liked Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey more than the original. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/3 "2015-06-10T22:42:22Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > 1. X-men 3 - Hey, I like this movie, but only as an ending, which they obviously have not stuck with. I don’t get the total hate. It’s no X2, but it is a solid movie. Ratner sucks, but this isn’t that bad. It’s like they went out of their way to fuck over the main characters is why. About the only thing they do right in that movie is the Warren Worthington/Angel scene. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/4 "2015-06-10T22:45:50Z")
Exorcist 3 Predator 2 Return of the Living Dead 3 ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/5 "2015-06-10T22:53:26Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I always liked Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey more than the original. Yeah. I don’t think people say it’s _bad_ so much as that they overlook it. The first one gets more attention and fame, but the second may actually be a better movie, and is at least creative and enjoyable in its own right. Other movies in this category include _Gremlins 2_ and _Babe: Pig in the City_. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/6 "2015-06-10T23:59:37Z")
Predator 2 is better than the original. There, I said it. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/7 "2015-06-11T00:12:46Z")
_Tremors 2_ deserves a lot more credit than it gets. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/8 "2015-06-11T00:25:54Z")
> [@Battle\_Pope](#): > > _Tremors 2_ deserves a lot more credit than it gets. I liked all four Tremors movies. If there were more then that I’ve lost track. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/9 "2015-06-11T00:26:19Z")
A movie that i can watch is **Another Stakeout** , even though it has the insufferable Rosie O’Donnell. Dennis Farina cracks me up in this movie. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/10 "2015-06-11T00:37:29Z")
> [@Aquadementia](#): > > I liked all four Tremors movies. If there were more then that I’ve lost track. AFAIK, only four (plus a TV series). It’s been a while since I watched them but from memory: 3 was OK and 4 was pretty average - the ideas and gags outstripped the production companies capabilities with CG (and they went one-too-many with the graboid transformations). ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/11 "2015-06-11T01:51:51Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > 1. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - Ouch. Yeah, I’m going there. This movie fits in and is a fine sequel to the other 3. I’d rank it 3rd or 4th, but it is by no means way behind the other ones. This movie is no Phantom Menace or Matrix Revolutions. It is actually really good. I agree. People sneer at the “nuke the fridge,” but it was a brilliant bit of 30s-style plotting, nicely set up (note that the fridge indicated it was lead-lined, which made it the best place for Indy to hide). I’ll add **Return to Oz**. It was much more faithful to the Oz books than the Judy Garland movie, and its dark version of Oz was fascinating. Some great imagination and a couple of terrifying villains, too. ---
**Author:** ![amaguri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@amaguri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amaguri)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/12 "2015-06-11T16:52:04Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > 1. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - Ouch. Yeah, I’m going there. This movie fits in and is a fine sequel to the other 3. I’d rank it 3rd or 4th, but it is by no means way behind the other ones. This movie is no Phantom Menace or Matrix Revolutions. It is actually really good. I might not go so far as to say “really good” but I certainly did not understand the vitriol that this movie generated. I thought it fit in just fine with the other movies in the series. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/13 "2015-06-11T17:06:55Z")
I’ll second _Return to Oz_ and _Tremors 2_. (Even _Tremors 3_ was pretty good). _2010: The Year me Make contact_ is better, I think, than most people seem to think it was. Hyams gets points for so faithfully reproducing the look of the original, and for his excellent casting choices. (especially Roy Scheider) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/14 "2015-06-11T17:07:52Z")
_Be Cool_ was an excellent sequel to _Get Shorty_, but I never hear much about it. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/15 "2015-06-11T18:07:56Z")
**Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines** is unjustly derided. It’s not as good as 1 and 2, and its main sin is that it basically renders the fantastic ending of T2 irrelevant. But evaluated on its own, it’s a fine movie. The action and SFX are great, and Claire Danes’ character is unusually deep and realistic for a random love interest in an action movie. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/16 "2015-06-11T18:10:31Z")
> [@amaguri](#): > > I might not go so far as to say “really good” but I certainly did not understand the vitriol that this movie generated. I thought it fit in just fine with the other movies in the series. Indeed. I think people tended to forget how silly some of the plot elements were in the previous films - that’s, after all, part of its charm. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/17 "2015-06-11T18:53:13Z")
_House II: The Second Story_ is far better than\* House\*. ---
**Author:** ![OffByOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OffByOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OffByOne)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/18 "2015-06-11T18:54:42Z")
Aliens ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/19 "2015-06-11T19:17:35Z")
> [@OffByOne](#): > > Aliens Do you really think it’s underrated? Most people seem to think it’s quite good. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209/20 "2015-06-11T19:52:38Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Do you really think it’s underrated? > > Most people seem to think it’s quite good. No matter how good people think it is, they’re underrating it. _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan_, ditto. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/underrated-sequels/722209.md?page=2)