# "Undiscovered" Masterpieces on Classic Albums **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 3, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887 "2020-01-03T16:38:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/101 "2020-01-08T15:35:57Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > 40+ years ago, when I was still in college, my GF at the time loved Rita Coolidge, and kept playing her version of _We’re All Alone_. I always thought Coolidge was robotic – pitch perfect but little emotion – and I told my GF that she should play Boz’s version if she wanted to hear it the way it should be sung. > > We broke up shortly after that, and partly because of stuff like that. I don’t know where it originated, but the radio stations in my region growing up (Balto-'70s/'80s) had an edited version which combined both. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/102 "2020-01-08T16:49:50Z")
The Moody Blues’ _To Our Children’s Children’s Children_ (1969) probably isn’t the first thing that comes to mind when talking classic albums, but it was platinum in Canada, gold in the US, and got up to #2 in England, so it did pretty well. I haven’t listened to music very much since the 90’s, so my opinion on music since then is uninformed, but I’ve always thought TOCCC was right up there with _Dark Side of the Moon_ the best concept album ever. All the songs are good, and together they make a coherent story. But I also think that at least two of them, _Gypsy_ and _Floating_, could easily have been released as singles. I like _Out and In_ even better in the context of the album, but it’s not as stand-alone as the other two. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/103 "2020-01-09T03:04:21Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Check out post #91. Perhaps you’ll enjoy the affinity with the Beatles’ “Long Long Long.” The resemblance is plain to hear.\* Which reminds me. They accused Johannes Brahms that the theme of the final movement of his first symphony sounded just like Beethoven’s Ode to Joy. Brahms’s retort was: “Any ass can hear that!” \*Dylan and Beatles had already been dueling songs for years. Speaking of _Blonde on Blonde_: “Fourth Time Around” was a sort of parody of “Norwegian Wood.” ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/104 "2020-01-09T03:19:54Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > The resemblance is plain to hear.\* Which reminds me. > > They accused Johannes Brahms that the theme of the final movement of his first symphony sounded just like Beethoven’s Ode to Joy. Brahms’s retort was: “Any ass can hear that!” > > \*Dylan and Beatles had already been dueling songs for years. Speaking of _Blonde on Blonde_: “Fourth Time Around” was a sort of parody of “Norwegian Wood.” Not a sort of, but a plain for all to see parody which was even funnier than the original. The role of a piece of gum alone is worth the price of admission. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/105 "2020-01-09T13:13:48Z")
Thanks for the wonderful Brahms quote, Johanna. Here’s John Lennon in 1968, on Dylan’s “4th Time Around”: “I didn’t like it. I was very paranoid. I just didn’t like what I felt I was feeling. I thought it was an out-and-out skit, but it wasn’t. It was great. I mean, he wasn’t playing any tricks on me.” (from Steve Turner’s new book _Beatles ‘66_.) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/106 "2020-01-09T14:28:20Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > (from Steve Turner’s new book _Beatles ‘66_.) Not that new — published in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/107 "2020-01-09T16:44:30Z")
How about “[The Card Cheat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZQOZC_ELBg)” on “London Calling”? If you’ve ever wondered what late 70’s punk would sound like if produced by Phil Spector, wonder no longer and enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![MrKnowItAll](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrknowitall/32/87_2.png) [@MrKnowItAll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrKnowItAll)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/108 "2020-01-10T04:58:26Z")
Not sure how old or classic to get. Strolling through the collection on my computer… “Homeless” - Paul Simon’s _Graceland_ “Sad Song” - Joe Jacksoon’s _Night and Day_ “Cowboys and Indians” - Blood Sweat & Tears _4_ “Dry County” - The B-52s _Cosmic Thing_ “Venus as a Boy” - Björk _Debut_ “Mountain o’ Things” - Tracy Chapman _Tracy Chapman_ “In the Stone” - Earth Wind & Fire _I Am_ “Dreaming of 4000” - Electric Light Orchestra _On the Third Day_ “The Late September Dogs” - Melissa Etheridge _Melissa Etheridge_ “Summertime Rolls” - Jane’s Addiction _Nothing’s Shocking_ “Today” - Jefferson Airplane _Surrealistic Pillow_ “You’re My Home” - Billy Joel _Piano Man_ “The Rain Song” - Led Zeppelin _Houses of the Holy_ “Silence and I” - The Alan Parsons Project _Eye in the Sky_ “Rolling Home” - Peter Paul & Mary _Album 1700_ “Was It All Worth It” - Queen _The Miracle_ (\<- I believe this was the first time we really saw Mercury facing his mortality in a song.) “Witch Hunt (part III of Fear)” - Rush _Moving Pictures_ “Charlie Freak” - Steely Dan _Pretzel Logic_ “Who’s Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses” - U2 _Achtung Baby_ “Our Song” - Yes _90125_ ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/109 "2020-01-10T05:14:06Z")
Oh, I thought of another. _I Remember You_ from _Revenge_ by the Eurhythmics. You always hear _Missionary Man_, but the entire rest of the album is pretty solid. When she sings the title phrase of that one song, it gives me a good chill. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/110 "2020-01-10T18:53:59Z")
[Alice Cooper - Blue Turk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgzoYzZiI7w) from **School’s Out**. An eclectic lounge-jazz curve ball that would be a wonderful music piece from anyone’s catalog. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/111 "2020-01-10T20:17:40Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > Everyone knows _Roundabout_ and most people know _Long Distance Runaround._ But I think the real star of _Fragile_ is [South Side of the Sky.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBAauFYod80) That song is just fucking epic, it’s medieval battles and Vikings and dwarves and wizards and sorcery epic. It could have been on a Sabbath album. Well, until the piano bridge and vocal breakdown, but that part is intriguing in its own right. > [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Oh man. There was a period of several months during which, when I got into work and no one else was in yet, I would listen to that at as loud a volume as I dared. What a monster song. I love that song too. Also from that same side of the vinyl album, and with no airplay to speak of, [“We Have Heaven”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzd3StgMCc8). I tend to think of them as a unified track though, since Heaven flows right into South Side. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/112 "2020-01-10T20:35:03Z")
Oh, and another from Tull’s _Aqualung_ – [Wind Up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKcJoRBwJcI) ---
**Author:** ![Art\_Rock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/art_rock/32/525_2.png) [@Art\_Rock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Art_Rock)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/113 "2020-01-10T20:47:16Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Do we consider A Trick Of The Tail by Genesis a classic album? The first one with Phil Collins on vocals. > > If so, I’ll submit Mad Man Moon. Never done live and certainly doesn’t get radio play on commercial radio, but I think it’s up there with their absolute best. Genesis with Peter Gabriel and/or Steve Hackett is one of my top 3 bands, ATOTT is a top 10 album for me, and you sir (or madam) are the first in four decades to agree with me on the beauty of _Mad Man Moon_. After _Firth of Fifth_ my favourite Genesis track, and definitely one of my top 5 songs of all time. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/114 "2020-01-10T20:51:45Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > Oh, and another from Tull’s _Aqualung_ – [Wind Up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKcJoRBwJcI) _Mother Goose_ ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/115 "2020-01-10T22:21:33Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > Also from that same side of the vinyl album, and with no airplay to speak of, [“We Have Heaven”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzd3StgMCc8). I tend to think of them as a unified track though, since Heaven flows right into South Side. Yes, I consider We Have Heaven to just be the intro to South Side of the Sky. Tell the moondog, tell the March Hare! ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/116 "2020-01-11T07:31:16Z")
I think “Locomotive (Complicity)” from Guns N’ Roses Use Your Illusion II is absurdly good although since it clocks in at just under nine minutes I can see why it wasn’t a radio hit. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/117 "2020-01-11T19:03:01Z")
> [@Art\_Rock](#): > > Genesis with Peter Gabriel and/or Steve Hackett is one of my top 3 bands, ATOTT is a top 10 album for me, and you sir (or madam) are the first in four decades to agree with me on the beauty of _Mad Man Moon_. After _Firth of Fifth_ my favourite Genesis track, and definitely one of my top 5 songs of all time. Add me to the list; Mad Man Moon is one of my favorite Genesis songs of all time. [hijack] And, there’s something about the sound of Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering that stand out in a really great way . . . maybe the most beautiful of Genesis’ albums? There’s just a dream-like cloak over both albums. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/les_espaces_du_sommeil/32/308_2.png) [@Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Les_Espaces_Du_Sommeil)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/118 "2020-01-11T20:03:45Z")
> [@MrKnowItAll](#): > > … > “Venus as a Boy” - Björk _Debut_ > … Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Also, _Come to me_ on the same album. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/119 "2020-01-13T14:35:04Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > _Mother Goose_ See post #6. 🙂 As for “Wind Up,” I recently heard a version with the extra snippet of a verse at the very end, and I thought I was losing my mind. Turns out only some pressings of the LP (including the one I’d grown up with and had heard hundreds of times) omitted this. “My” version ends with the words “…harmonize these lines,” ending on a wistful chord. The other version sounds absolutely bizarre to me. ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887/120 "2020-01-13T15:29:31Z")
On **Guns 'n Roses, Appetite for Destruction** : I have always thought that **Think About You** and **My Michelle** were great songs. My Michelle is a “typical” GNR song (with a dirty nasty riff that i’ve always loved), but Think About You is your classic mid-tempo deep-cut, that I’ve just always loved for some reason. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/undiscovered-masterpieces-on-classic-albums/845887.md?page=7)