# Unexpected Enthusiasm for Harris?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** kamala-harris\
**Created:** [July 23, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685 "2024-07-23T13:20:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/487 "2024-08-09T20:22:37Z")

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> **off topic**
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> > [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > Dunks cinnamon rolls in chili??
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> Perhaps you’ve never tried Cincinnati style chili? The most famous of which is Skyline Chili. It is made with several non-traditional ingredients including chocolate, cinnamon, and allspice. So not so weird to dip a cinnamon roll in chili.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/489 "2024-08-09T20:25:50Z")

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**Moderating**

Too much, really off topic.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/491 "2024-08-09T20:51:23Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I know for a fact that Tim Walz doesn’t get “excited about soda.”
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> He gets excited about _pop_.

When I first glanced at this post, I parsed it as “excited by sofa” and I thought you were talking about the other guy.🤗

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/492 "2024-08-09T21:15:50Z")

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I’ll risk the wrath of the mod but I think it is on topic: cinnamon rolls in chili originated in primary ground zero Iowa and have spread to various Midwest and even southern states. This is food as real political cred for the demographics that they are trying to reach. It is harder to convince voters who also enjoy that combo that he is an elitist.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/493 "2024-08-09T21:31:34Z")

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Allowed. But please enough with chili everyone.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/494 "2024-08-09T23:46:54Z")

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We have thread for it:

> [@Vice-Presidential culinary question: What is "hotdish" in Minnesota?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-culinary-question-what-is-hotdish-in-minnesota/1005398):
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> Question re Tim Walz: he apparently won the “Minnesota Congressional Delegation HotDish-off” contest three years running, with his “New Ulm Hotdish”. Please elaborate for a puzzelled Canuck: what is “hotdish”, please?

It’s morphed into a general Veep culinary thread.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/495 "2024-08-10T06:22:18Z")

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Meanwhile, 20,000 people waited up to 5 hours for the rally in Arizona and Trump must be going crazy. I also commend Harris for how she dealt with the hecklers. While “I’m speaking” resonates with all women who have been ignored and talked over, taking a minute to actualoly address the problem in Gaza and what she plans to do shows that she is not ignoring the situation.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/496 "2024-08-10T17:02:28Z")

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> [@sciurophobic](#):
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> Did anybody see this happening? And if not, why not?

It was a little bit creepy the way it unfolded but nothing less than brilliant. Shumer and Pelosi faked this exuberant excitement, a few senators and congressman followed suit so everyone just got excited as if a button was pushed. I have never seen anything like it. But it did work. It is scary to think how easily voters can be influenced.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/497 "2024-08-10T17:06:36Z")

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Lots and lots of Americans were desperate for any credible alternative to Trump who isn’t over 80. I don’t think it took much manipulation - millions were primed and ready to get excited for someone, anyone.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/498 "2024-08-10T17:12:25Z")

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We had a whole election in '20 where 14 million additional voters showed up to limit Trump’s time in office to four years. Voters don’t require “elitest” manipulations after witnessing The Don’s performance.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/499 "2024-08-10T17:18:11Z")

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I won’t argue with that, I have never been a fan of Trumps. But it is obvious that the media and the elected officials got together for a dramatic presentation of our new candidate. It was more sudden and aligned than anything I have ever witnessed. They know they have an impressionable audience and they know they can easily manipulate them. Nothing else is even feasible.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/500 "2024-08-10T17:22:05Z")

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> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> It was more sudden and aligned than anything I have ever witnessed.

How many times have you witnessed a sitting President running for re-election withdraw from the race to determine that it was more sudden and aligned than the last time it happened?

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/501 "2024-08-10T17:24:45Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> How many times have you witnessed a sitting President running for re-election withdraw from the race to determine that it was more sudden and aligned than the last time it happened

I agree that this did set the stage for " launching a new candidate" and it was a very successful launch.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/502 "2024-08-10T17:26:53Z")

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> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> But it is obvious that the media and the elected officials got together

I will agree that the ‘elected officials’, meaning the leading Democrats, led the charge. But it wasn’t faked exuberance, and I don’t think it was obvious that the media was in on it. Maybe you know something that the rest of us don’t.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/503 "2024-08-10T17:33:09Z")

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> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> But it is obvious that the media and the elected officials got together for a dramatic presentation of our new candidate.

The “Media” is not in this lockstep with Democrats that you CT-imagine. Politicians need to get elected, while The Media needs merely to be tuned in to, subscribed to, read, etc. This is in order to sell advertising, which is how it funds itself. The Dems of course orchestrated the Harris roll out. That’s their _JOB_. The media saw a great story that would sell and ran with it. That’s how it works. They were just as hot to pan Biden and go on and on about his senility. Because it bought them eyeballs. Nobody wants to read about how loony-tunes evil Trump is, because it isn’t news anymore. Thus, not a lot about Trump in the news, at least not until he starts eating babies.

I’m constantly amazed that people don’t understand the nature of journalism.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/504 "2024-08-10T17:34:28Z")

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But why manipulate when they were already so ready for someone new? Manipulation was unnecessary.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/505 "2024-08-10T18:10:07Z")

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I don’t know if any of you saw Chuck Shumer when h made the announcement but the way he acted kiddy like a little child was hard to watch. Clapping his hands and rolling his eyes. There was nothing natural about it, and then almost instantaneously every one was doing the same thing. Within 48 hours everyone was excited.

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Yes, it’s called politicking. What, you actually think the wheels weren’t set in motion prior to the announcement? Why in God’s name would you even believe such a thing?

Anyway, enough with the hijack and back to the _enthusiasm_: this is why she will win…

> <https://x.com/NashIsHere4It/status/1822106211296133528?t=fIraGJ40K-HAVF6R3VDv3Q&s=19>

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unexpected-enthusiasm-for-harris/1004685/507 "2024-08-10T19:37:52Z")

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Now that’s a good mom.

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> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> It was more sudden and aligned than anything I have ever witnessed. They know they have an impressionable audience and they know they can easily manipulate them.

That’s far too cynical.

What really happened is that we were worried about dropping Biden, because historically, the Democratic party has had a problem with being disorganized. We thought dropping Biden would cause chaos at exactly the wrong time. They “manipulated” us by showing that they weren’t a disorganized mob, that they were capable of seeing that what we really wanted was a unified party working together.

They “manipulated” us by giving us exactly what we wanted. That’s not manipulation, that’s how democracy is supposed to work.

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