# Uninsured people who oppose healthcare reform

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 11, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855 "2009-12-11T13:37:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 15

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/281 "2009-12-17T19:13:29Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> It appears to me that **Mr. Smashy** is quite enjoying collecting insults. When he gets one, he lovingly gazes at it, sniffs it a bit and rubs it on himself a little. Then he puts it into a special box on a shelf.
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> After he gets enough of them, he gathers them all together into a pile and rolls around on them. When he’s done touching them all over, he gets them all full of static by rubbing them on his hair. He can them stick the insults all over his body, and sit in the corner with a sad look on his face, while saying “look at how mean all the lefties are to me!”

And then he whacks off.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/282 "2009-12-17T20:42:48Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Poor Mr. Smashy. ::tear::
> 
> Remember people, nobody’s feeling get hurt faster than a conservative. Please use your kid gloves.

not…a…conservative

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/283 "2009-12-17T20:46:04Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> not…a…conservative

Just anti-liberal, then? Yeah, we get a lot of them through here.

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/284 "2009-12-17T21:24:49Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> not…a…conservative

And yet you parrot the dishonest talking points of the right with stunning accuracy and typical lack of wit, insight, awareness or willingness to engage in a good faith conversation about a substantive issue.

Waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, gets called a duck.

Oh, by the way, you’ve yet to see me in an uncalm state. The next time you condescend to tell me to “calm down” you will understand just what it means to see me when I’m actually riled up. You won’t enjoy it.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/285 "2009-12-17T21:39:26Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Just anti-liberal, then?

I’m anti-both extremes actually.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/286 "2009-12-17T21:41:32Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> I’m anti-both extremes actually.

Bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/287 "2009-12-17T21:43:28Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> I’m anti-both extremes actually.

Well, there’s your problem.

I hope you stick around. We have enough knee-jerkers already.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/288 "2009-12-17T21:55:57Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> I’m anti-both extremes actually.

Actually your problem is you don’t like to think.

And you don’t admit when you’ve been shown wrong. Among, I assume many other things. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/289 "2009-12-17T21:57:13Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Well, there’s your problem.
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> I hope you stick around. We have enough knee-jerkers already.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

And your problem is you’re an angry, petty little shit.

You are however, way, way fucking smarter than Smashy.

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**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/290 "2009-12-17T21:57:46Z")

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**Mr Smashy** , I bet you are one of those freaks that thinks Han shot second! 😃

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/291 "2009-12-18T02:01:40Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> You are however, way, way fucking smarter than Smashy.

I think \*\*Shodan \*\*looks distinguished with a pet monkey on his shoulder. And his choosing a “special needs” animal just goes to show you how much heart he has in there.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/292 "2009-12-18T13:05:20Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Well, there’s your problem.
> 
> I hope you stick around. We have enough knee-jerkers already.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Still evaluating. It seems as though this board is made up of a huge number of far-lefters who think anyone to the right of Howard Dean might as well be Pat Buchanan. Not all, but at least 90% of the comments in this thread were in the mode of “Anyone not in favor of this program MUST be a radical right wing Repub-tard” (or whatever insult comes to mind).

I don’t mind clever insults, mind you. But it gets tiresome to hear someone scream and rant with no real intelligence behind it. Further, I notice that when I’ve given fact and data to prove my contentions, the people doing the screaming wouldn’t acknowledge or at least try to make a reasonable reply; sometimes attacking the cite, sometimes conveniently claiming they _can’t access_ the site. The lone exception seems to be **M4M**.

People are certainly allowed to express their opinions; that’s what a board is all about. Maybe moreso in The Pit. But I wish I saw more persuasion, less obnoxiousness.

PS I hear you’re smarter than me. My IQ is 139. That makes you… what, the offspring of Einstein and Marilyn Vos Savant… ? 😉

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/293 "2009-12-18T13:06:53Z")

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> [@Translucent\_Daydream](#):
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> **Mr Smashy** , I bet you are one of those freaks that thinks Han shot second! 😃

You… you… **Nerfherder!"**

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/294 "2009-12-18T13:20:06Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> S  
> PS I hear you’re smarter than me. My IQ is 139. That makes you… what, the offspring of Einstein and Marilyn Vos Savant… ? 😉

I really hate sorry motherfuckers who parade around their “IQ” like it means something.

Dude, you’re not smart. You’re just another wanker with a big mouth and small ideas.

Kinda like those republitards.

You and Shodan are perfect for each other.

How about you stop with the bullshit about how you’re not a right wing retard like your boy Shodan. It’s totally fucking transparent.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/295 "2009-12-18T13:38:05Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> Still evaluating. It seems as though this board is made up of a huge number of far-lefters who think anyone to the right of Howard Dean might as well be Pat Buchanan.

Yes, pretty much. One gets used to it after a while.

> [@](#):
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> Not all, but at least 90% of the comments in this thread were in the mode of “Anyone not in favor of this program MUST be a radical right wing Repub-tard” (or whatever insult comes to mind).

Yes. You are either absolutely, 100% committed to whatever Obama wants to sell or you are scum.

Any kind of nuance is anathema to the knee-jerkers, and their favored response (besides mindless abuse) is to accuse whoever challenges the talking points they dragged from some left-wing blog of dragging points from a right-wing blog.

> [@](#):
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> I don’t mind clever insults, mind you. But it gets tiresome to hear someone scream and rant with no real intelligence behind it. Further, I notice that when I’ve given fact and data to prove my contentions, the people doing the screaming wouldn’t acknowledge or at least try to make a reasonable reply; sometimes attacking the cite, sometimes conveniently claiming they _can’t access_ the site. The lone exception seems to be **M4M**.

It is somewhat better in GD. That is, you still get the refusal to engage on any point they don’t want to acknowledge, but there are fewer mindless insults and many of the regulars in GD can actually debate. There are others like **Measure for Measure** , IOW.

> [@](#):
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> PS I hear you’re smarter than me. My IQ is 139. That makes you… what, the offspring of Einstein and Marilyn Vos Savant… ? 😉

Don’t believe what idiots tell you. Yes, I’m smarter than most of them. That’s hardly something to brag about. 😃

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/296 "2009-12-18T14:11:52Z")

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Thanks **Sho**. Off to GD I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/297 "2009-12-18T14:12:12Z")

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Ah, Fox-Fair-And-Balanced-itis: Every thing conservative is actually right down the middle and what every normal American thinks; anything else is pure Marxism.

No doubt there are more liberals than conservatives on this board, but far-left? You don’t fucking know far-left if this is what you think it is.

You two need to get a room.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/298 "2009-12-18T14:15:58Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> I really hate sorry motherfuckers who parade around their “IQ” like it means something.

What objective metric did you have in mind?

I also have a BBA and an MBA. I’m an exec at a government contractor. If you PM me I’ll go ahead and send you my social sec number, bank account numbers (so you can verify my finances are solid), and credit report from all three bureaus, plus my credit card numbers, just in case.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/299 "2009-12-18T14:19:32Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> I was actually going to join (ie, pay) today, but if it’s mostly a bunch of angry lefties unwilling to engage in reasonable debate, then what’s the point? (I make exceptions for  
> **M4M** and **joebuck** , who may have wished that he never started this mess…)

Two words: “Ignore list.” Makes life easier.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uninsured-people-who-oppose-healthcare-reform/520855/300 "2009-12-18T15:04:47Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> What objective metric did you have in mind?

You don’t need to go waving it around in public. Just makes you look like more of a douchebag. Not that you needed any help with that.

> [@](#):
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> I also have a BBA and an MBA. I’m an exec at a government contractor. If you PM me I’ll go ahead and send you my social sec number, bank account numbers (so you can verify my finances are solid), and credit report from all three bureaus, plus my credit card numbers, just in case.

Excellent. My tax dollars at work keeping people like you employed. Awesome.

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