# Unintentional Movie Ironies

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 29, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentional-movie-ironies/558794 "2010-10-29T17:53:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentional-movie-ironies/558794/61 "2010-11-05T14:22:04Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Here’s a spooky one I just noticed:
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> In **Rosemary’s Baby** , a character commits suicide by leaping from a NYC apartment buillding, hitting a Volkswagon before landing on the sidewalk. The scene was shot outside the Dakota building, where John Lennon would be murdered in 1980. Therefore, the movie features a “bloody Beetle” next to a corpse in the very same spot where Lennon would be killed 13 years later!
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> Yikes…

[Victoria Vetri](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/10/20/playboy-playmate-victoria-vetri-tried-kill-boyfriend-cops-say/), who played the suicide victim, has been arrested for shooting her boyfriend.

So director Polanski’s wife was murdered and he had his own legal troubles, star Mia Farrow had her legal problems, Lennon who lived at the Dakota was murdered there, and now this. What a cursed movie.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentional-movie-ironies/558794/62 "2010-11-05T14:41:23Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> In the movie **Chloe** , Liam Neeson plays a guy who cheats on his wife with a prostitute. In one early scene, the wife finds evidence of the affair by secretly checking his cellphone text messages. The incriminating message is dated March 16, 2009 - the exact same day Neeson’s real-life wife, Natasha Richardson, was involved in a fatal skiing accident. She died two days later.
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> I’m _guessing_ that was unintentional.

Not that I don’t love a good Lennon conspiracy theory but how is nobody commenting on how absolutely effing creepy this is?

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**Author:** ![Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harvey_The_Heavy)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentional-movie-ironies/558794/63 "2010-11-05T14:59:34Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Not that I don’t love a good Lennon conspiracy theory but how is nobody commenting on how absolutely effing creepy this is?

Well, she died while that was being filmed, so I’m guessing it was either the actual date the scene was filmed, or it was intentional as a memorial.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentional-movie-ironies/558794/64 "2010-11-05T15:42:44Z")

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> [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](#):
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> Well, she died while that was being filmed, so I’m guessing it was either the actual date the scene was filmed, or it was intentional as a memorial.

I listened to the commentary on the DVD to see if the director would discuss whether it was intentional or not but, unsurprisingly, he didn’t make any mention of the tragedy or how it affected filming. Still, it’s hard to imagine why the producers would want to leave such a painful reminder in the finished cut of the film. I’m guessing nobody noticed the significance of the date until it was too late to change.

The movie is lousy, by the way.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentional-movie-ironies/558794/65 "2010-11-05T18:12:14Z")

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> [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](#):
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> Well, she died while that was being filmed, so I’m guessing it was either the actual date the scene was filmed, or it was intentional as a memorial.

Oh…well…I did not know that.  
It does make it significantly less creepy than in my mind. I had visions of a movie that came out in 04 or some such that had that.

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**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentional-movie-ironies/558794/66 "2010-11-05T19:08:31Z")

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This is fairly obscure but always made me chuckle…

[Ken Howard](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0397432/), in the musical _1776_ (filmed in 1972), portrays Thomas Jefferson who writes the Declaration of Independence at the behest of John Adams.

In 1999, Ken Howard appeared on West Wing as Supreme Court nominee Judge Peyton Cabot Harrison III and much of the greatness of the ironies have him debating the Declaration and the Constitution.

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