# Unintentionally Silly Over the Top Villains (Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 12, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentionally-silly-over-the-top-villains-spoilers/978136 "2023-01-12T22:25:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentionally-silly-over-the-top-villains-spoilers/978136/81 "2023-02-05T15:54:15Z")
I just watched Wakanda: Forever and it’s hard for me to take Namor seriously with him flying around with tiny wings on his feet. ---
**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentionally-silly-over-the-top-villains-spoilers/978136/82 "2023-02-05T16:38:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > when he buys his weapons at a kiosk in the food court at a suburban indoor mall. You won’t find a knife that Kooool at the mall. You need to go see Jimmy Joe Bob’s booth at the flea market. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentionally-silly-over-the-top-villains-spoilers/978136/83 "2023-02-05T18:14:03Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > flying around with tiny wings on his feet Not really along the lines of this thread, though – that is, this is not a _character defect_ that renders the antagonist too over the top. In this case it’s, admittedly unusual these days, an old-school comic-book fantasy trait being preserved as-was instead of trying to somehow “make it realistic to modern audiences”. I guess they figured this was a low-cost bone to throw to a million comics nerds who’ll bitch and moan anyway that this is no longer the Real Submariner (“Look, he’s still got the anklewings, of course he is!”) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentionally-silly-over-the-top-villains-spoilers/978136/84 "2023-02-06T00:28:58Z")
> [@alovem](#): > > The Max Cady character in Scorcese’s “ **Cape Fear** ” is way over the top, especially at the end of the film, although I wonder how much of that was unintentional, because the director clearly had some fun with the portrayal. That movie scared the shit out of me. I was pretty young when I saw it, so I’m not sure how I would read the character now, but at the time it felt like realism. ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentionally-silly-over-the-top-villains-spoilers/978136/85 "2023-02-06T07:45:15Z")
I saw it a few nights ago for the third or fourth time. It’s pretty scary. And disturbing as hell. Most of the film shows Cady in unlikely but not impossible situations, which is fine with me: meeting the daughter at her school’s auditorium, how he got to Cape Fear in pursuit of the family, disguising himself as the maid, etc. Like I said, the end (final shots of Cady) is what stretched things beyond the breaking point for me. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentionally-silly-over-the-top-villains-spoilers/978136/86 "2023-02-07T02:01:02Z")
> [@Galactus](#): > > You won’t find a knife that Kooool at the mall. You need to go see Jimmy Joe Bob’s booth at the flea market. The Collin Creek Mall in Plano, Texas had a sword/knife store back around 1994-1995. They actually sold the types of swords and knives you’d find at finer flea markets in addition to more practical blades for hunting, fishing, and other utility work. ---
**Author:** ![Toxylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Toxylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxylon)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentionally-silly-over-the-top-villains-spoilers/978136/87 "2023-02-07T20:02:39Z")
I don’t think Max Cady in Cape Fear is over the top, or silly. He was a pretty realistic dangerous creep. And without the final scenes intensifying and verging on unrealism, the film would’ve fizzled. ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentionally-silly-over-the-top-villains-spoilers/978136/88 "2023-02-08T10:24:02Z")
Well, good for you, then. If there’s ever a thread where that’s relevant, your post will surely make a fine contribution. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentionally-silly-over-the-top-villains-spoilers/978136/89 "2023-02-08T13:39:33Z")
Moderating: > [@alovem](#): > > Well, good for you, then. If there’s ever a thread where that’s relevant, your post will surely make a fine contribution This is Cafe Society. Don’t be a jerk. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unintentionally-silly-over-the-top-villains-spoilers/978136.md?page=4)