# Unite the Right Racist Scum **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 12, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471 "2017-08-12T22:19:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/1 "2017-08-12T22:19:19Z")
I’m making this thread because the MPSIMS thread is getting a little cray-cray, and in light of the fact that **Sailboat** ’s wife was among the victims of the asshat who plowed his car into a bunch of counterprotesters in Charlottesville, extra sensitivity is needed in that thread. [This event](http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-white-nationalists-rally/index.html)is almost incomprehensible to me, a naive person who is rather surprised to learn that Nazis are still a thing. But it’s kind of inevitable, isn’t it? Politics and media have actively facilitated a culture that encourages divisive rhetoric and redress for grievances by any means possible. As for whether our President is a cowardly piece of racist-enabling shit, David Duke’s response to Donald Trump’s lukewarm tweet today says it all: > [@](#): > > So, after decades of White Americans being targeted for discriminated & anti-White hatred, we come together as a people, and you attack us? > > I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists. Somehow the POTUS has managed to let down both the bigots and the anti-bigots in one fell swoop. Sad. And lest anyone unfairly characterize my argument, I am fully behind the constitutional right of these cowardly disgusting reprehensible pieces of shit to peaceably assemble. I would prefer that they remove themselves from the planet, but whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/2 "2017-08-12T22:22:06Z")
Hey, RedState has an article finger wagging on how there is violence “ON BOTH SIDES.” While that site has never supported Trump, they do seem to be picking up on his sense of decorum and morals. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/3 "2017-08-12T22:25:08Z")
I am opposed to violence. Unlike the people who support the genocide of millions of Jews. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/4 "2017-08-12T23:05:30Z")
AANNNNNNDDDD… Of course there are right wing trolls all over FB trying to claim the driver of the car that slammed into the protestors is a leftist. Some of them are right out the gate wrong, claiming it is a leftist that slammed into the right wingers. Of course, mixed in with all sorts of anti-left slurs and bullshit. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/5 "2017-08-12T23:07:04Z")
Oh, and then on God’s page, there’s a troll asking what is wrong with the Nazi philosophy, saying that it is unconventional, but what is the big deal? Of course he has a Russian name. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/6 "2017-08-12T23:12:05Z")
I’ve seen claims that there were no heavily armed police troops in riot gear present, as there are in similar BLM type protests. True or no? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/7 "2017-08-12T23:13:17Z")
There are clear pictures of cops in riot gear in the news. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/8 "2017-08-12T23:20:34Z")
I had a feeling. Anyway, this incident, as awful as it is, doesn’t change my mind about something: these people are much more concerning as a political force than as a guns and boots in the street force. Despite the best efforts of some on the right, I don’t think the latter will ever happen, but the former already has. Then again, maybe we need some of those politicians to outright say what they’ve wanted to say since the Sixties. Maybe that’s what we need to flush them from the system. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/9 "2017-08-12T23:23:45Z")
I think the people at the white supremacist march should be photographed and publicly identified both in their specific communities and to the nation as a whole. If it turns out that whole communities of people were there, then that community should be outed as a racist community. If the guy that recently got fired from Google, Bob Beckel, and this waitress [Cheddar's customer didn't mean to get waitress fired for online racist crack](http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/28/news/chelsea-mayes-cheddars-waitress/index.html) can get fired for bigoted statements, I think these people should face the same. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/10 "2017-08-12T23:36:45Z")
I don’t know what to say, except that I’m very upset right now. Bad enough that three people are dead, but Trump’s mealy-mouthed “many sides, many sides” statement is despicable, even for him. I take some comfort in the pushback he’s getting, even from conservatives. (When did Orin Hatch get to be so honorable? This is the second time I’m aware of recently that he’s responded with decency to Trumpian crap.) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/11 "2017-08-12T23:38:25Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I’ve seen claims that there were no heavily armed police troops in riot gear present, as there are in similar BLM type protests. True or no? There were certainly video of _protesters_ with homemade shields. What I’ve seen so far has been pretty chaotic stuff, hard to tell exactly what’s going on with some of it, other than melee and mayhem. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/12 "2017-08-12T23:40:05Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > I don’t know what to say, except that I’m very upset right now. Bad enough that three people are dead, but Trump’s mealy-mouthed “many sides, many sides” statement is despicable, even for him. Trump needs to, as I heard one commentator say, call a spade a spade. It’s domestic terrorism. Ramming a car into a crowd of pedestrians is terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/13 "2017-08-12T23:44:06Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > There were certainly video of _protesters_ with homemade shields. What I’ve seen so far has been pretty chaotic stuff, hard to tell exactly what’s going on with some of it, other than melee and mayhem. Can anyone enlighten me about all those homemade shields with big X’s on them? If they were brought by the white supremacists, then it’s just evidence that they came actively looking for violence. (Or if they were brought by the counter-protestors, likewise.) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/14 "2017-08-12T23:49:13Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > There were certainly video of _protesters_ with homemade shields. What I’ve seen so far has been pretty chaotic stuff, hard to tell exactly what’s going on with some of it, other than melee and mayhem. The one (WaPo) article I’ve read so far indicates that fighting broke out almost immediately at the original protest site (Emancipation Park) and that while riot police were present, they delayed moving in to break it up for unknown reasons. > **[One dead as car strikes crowds amid protests of white nationalist gathering...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fights-in-advance-of-saturday-protest-in-charlottesville/2017/08/12/155fb636-7f13-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html?utm_term=.a28b1ee84fdb)** > > One driver was taken into custody after the crash. Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe said he had a message for the white nationalists: ‘Go home.’ > [@](#): > > On Saturday morning, men in combat gear — some wearing bicycle and motorcycle helmets and carrying clubs and sticks and makeshift shields — had fought each other in the downtown streets, with little apparent police interference. Both sides sprayed each other with chemical irritants and plastic bottles were hurled through the air. > > **A large contingent of Charlottesville police officers and Virginia State Police troopers in riot gear were stationed on side streets and at nearby barricades but did nothing to break up the melee until around 11:40 a.m.** Using megaphones, police then declared an unlawful assembly and gave a five-minute warning to leave Emancipation Park. (My bolding) Apparently the one reported death and most of the injuries occurred when someone drove through the crowd forced into surrounding streets by the Park melee. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/15 "2017-08-12T23:51:04Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Hey, RedState has an article finger wagging on how there is violence “ **ON BOTH SIDES**.” > > While that site has never supported Trump, they do seem to be picking up on his sense of decorum and morals. Yeah, I caught that. The problem is, both sides weren’t holding torches and Nazi flags. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/16 "2017-08-12T23:53:15Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Hey, RedState has an article finger wagging on how there is violence “ON BOTH SIDES.” > > While that site has never supported Trump, they do seem to be picking up on his sense of decorum and morals. Now I’ve seen it all. “Both Siderism” defense of the fucking Nazis? Dirty stinking lousy mother fuckers. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/17 "2017-08-12T23:55:14Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > I think the people at the white supremacist march should be photographed and publicly identified both in their specific communities and to the nation as a whole. If it turns out that whole communities of people were there, then that community should be outed as a racist community. If the guy that recently got fired from Google, Bob Beckel, and this waitress [Cheddar's customer didn't mean to get waitress fired for online racist crack](http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/28/news/chelsea-mayes-cheddars-waitress/index.html) can get fired for bigoted statements, I think these people should face the same. I agree. And if they start mysteriously turning up in the hospital Emergency Room or WORSE, fuck 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Amara\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7993a0/32.png) [@Amara\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amara_1)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/18 "2017-08-12T23:57:32Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Now I’ve seen it all. “Both Siderism” defense of the fucking Nazis? Dirty stinking lousy mother fuckers. Even here on these boards… ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/19 "2017-08-13T00:04:46Z")
you know ive wondered what most of the ww2 vets always thought of the neo Nazi thing … its funny ive actually met an former agent of the SS and asked for his opinion and he said that most of the idiots calling themselves Nazis these days would of died on the night of the long knives…if they weren’t used for eastern front cannon fodder… ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/20 "2017-08-13T00:13:46Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Now I’ve seen it all. “Both Siderism” defense of the fucking Nazis? Dirty stinking lousy mother fuckers. “Anti-Nazis. I hate those guys.” _— Indiana Jones and the Gaggle of Pasty Schmucks_ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471.md?page=2)