# Unite the Right Racist Scum

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 12, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471 "2017-08-12T22:19:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/21 "2017-08-13T00:17:26Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> I’ve seen claims that there were no heavily armed police troops in riot gear present, as there are in similar BLM type protests. True or no?

I watched a load of live feeds today, and there tooled-up cops everywhere. It was them who dispersed the Nazi scum out of the park when things started heating up, from what I could tell.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/22 "2017-08-13T00:18:03Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I agree. And if they start mysteriously turning up in the hospital Emergency Room or WORSE, fuck 'em.

You have mental issues.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/23 "2017-08-13T00:20:10Z")

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People still look to the president to nurse society’s scars? How pitiful for all of them.  
That said, this event could bring some more of the crazies out, and that is worrisome. I also wish the victims and their families well.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/24 "2017-08-13T00:31:55Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> People still look to the president to nurse society’s scars? How pitiful for all of them.  
> That said, this event could bring some more of the crazies out, and that is worrisome. I also wish the victims and their families well.

Shouldn’t that be one of the president’s duties, to work on uniting us as Americans? I think Trump revives an old standard, and you would probably have to go back as far as Coolidge or Wilson to find a POTUS that would have handled the Charlottesville events the way Trump has. I’m pretty sure even Bush Jr and Nixon would have done better.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/25 "2017-08-13T00:36:23Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> Shouldn’t that be one of the president’s duties, to work on uniting us as Americans?

No, quite frankly that is perverse.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/26 "2017-08-13T00:45:54Z")

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Say _what_ now?

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/27 "2017-08-13T01:04:10Z")

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[The Daily Stormer is happy.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHD61dKUwAAOOak.jpg:large)  
Hardly surprising the Nazis love themselves some Trump.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/28 "2017-08-13T01:17:42Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> The one (WaPo) article I’ve read so far indicates that fighting broke out almost immediately at the original protest site (Emancipation Park) and that while riot police were present, they delayed moving in to break it up for unknown reasons.

Some initial thoughts from having some training while in the Guard and being in a Training Support Battalion that was responsible for non-lethal weapons/crowd and riot control training for troops deploying to theaters where that was a requirement (like Kosovo.) Thankfully I never had to execute it for real. Really, really thankfully. My battalion was part of the OPLAN to respond to Detroit in case of potential riots after the verdict in the [Malice Green](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malice_Green) trial. By the plan we were to take our armored personnel carriers. Did I mention I am really glad that mission stayed hypothetical?

- The police were hugely outnumbered. They always are.
- Intervention tends to escalate the situation. If you aren’t deliberate and careful in acting, things can go from bad to OMFG full scale riot in the blink of an eye.
- The assembly hadn’t yet been officially deemed an unlawful assembly at the beginning. Barring legal declaration there may well have been a lot of perfectly innocent people lawfully standing in their way to get to the fight. It’s generally considered bad form to just start using force against people that you know aren’t breaking any laws. (Which feeds back to the point above.)
- It looks like they got the declaration out in a pretty reasonable time frame once the fight started and it was clear things were going irretrievably downhill. That waiting period is pretty normal. You want the people that aren’t immediately breaking the law and willing to peacefully disperse to go before you have to forcibly clear the rest of the area. It helps reduce the intensity of the crowd dynamic which can mitigate the situation or be enough in and of itself. It also reduces how badly outnumbered the riot control forces are if things continue to get worse anyway.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/29 "2017-08-13T01:22:48Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I agree. And if they start mysteriously turning up in the hospital Emergency Room or WORSE, fuck 'em.

This is wrong.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/30 "2017-08-13T01:27:56Z")

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Traitor Trump basically just phoned in a standard response. No doubt he was running late for his tee time. What a sorry excuse for a leader.

If the right-wing protesters come out again tonight, I have no problem whatsoever with the police bashing their heads in or even shooting them like dogs.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/31 "2017-08-13T01:32:10Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Say _what_ now?

Yeah, I’m dumbfounded too, for what it’s worth.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/32 "2017-08-13T01:32:38Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> If the right-wing protesters come out again tonight, I have no problem whatsoever with the police bashing their heads in or even shooting them like dogs.

Egregiously creepy sentiment

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/33 "2017-08-13T01:32:56Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> If the right-wing protesters come out again tonight, I have no problem whatsoever with the police bashing their heads in or even shooting them like dogs.

No, they should be arrested (assuming they are breaking the law) with the exact same level of consideration that we wish the police would give to African-Americans.

C’mon, folks! Stand up for human decency and non-violence, folks! You are absolutely playing into the hands of the alt-right when you advocate violence. Be better than they are.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/34 "2017-08-13T01:34:00Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I agree. And if they start mysteriously turning up in the hospital Emergency Room or WORSE, fuck 'em.

the fuck, man?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/35 "2017-08-13T01:39:05Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Traitor Trump basically just phoned in a standard response. No doubt he was running late for his tee time. What a sorry excuse for a leader.
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> If the right-wing protesters come out again tonight, I have no problem whatsoever with the police bashing their heads in or even shooting them like dogs.

Where were you when Antifa was burning Berkeley? You are also a sick man with your calls for extrajudicial violence.

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/36 "2017-08-13T01:39:37Z")

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"I’m not black but there’s a whole lotsa times I wish I could say I’m not white…” Frank Zappa.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/37 "2017-08-13T01:41:50Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Trump needs to, as I heard one commentator say, call a spade a spade. It’s domestic terrorism. Ramming a car into a crowd of pedestrians is terrorism.

That’s odd. I always thought it was assault with a deadly weapon.

But maybe it’s just me–I’m old-fashioned that way.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/38 "2017-08-13T01:43:55Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> That’s odd. I always thought it was assault with a deadly weapon.
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> But maybe it’s just me–I’m old-fashioned that way.

When it’s done for political reasons (i.e. in support of white supremacism), it’s terrorism. We don’t know that’s the case yet, though.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/39 "2017-08-13T01:52:33Z")

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My heart goes out to the victims and their loved ones.

The Don had a bee-you-tiful chance to blow an angry load all over these lemons and their violent march. In fact, I thought self-righteous anger was part of his MO. Instead, he equivocates like the nazi-sympathizing slime that he is. The man is incapable of affirming what should be our values. What a burden…

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/40 "2017-08-13T01:53:50Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Oh, and then on God’s page, there’s a troll asking what is wrong with the Nazi philosophy, saying that it is unconventional, but what is the big deal?
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> Of course he has a Russian name. :mad:

Seriously? Somebody should’ve reminded him of what the Nazis did to Russia back in the 1940s.

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