# Unite the Right Racist Scum

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 12, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471 "2017-08-12T22:19:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/621 "2017-08-16T22:18:05Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Trump supporters are complicit in this American sickness.

Nice sicko call you have there. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/622 "2017-08-16T22:18:53Z")

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“First they came for the Nazis, and I said nothing, because there are good people on both sides”.

Octo, it’s pretty funny to see the fucking Nazis trying to hide behind the rule of law, when the whole point of, y’know, Nazism, is that the rule of law is horseshit, and violence and force are the way the world should work.

I mean, suppose you’re a real life Nazi, who believes might makes right. So what happened in World War II again? The Nazis lost, their armies were defeated, their country was bombed flat and occupied by their enemies. If you really were a Nazi shouldn’t you switch sides at that point and join the liberal enlightenment?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/623 "2017-08-16T23:30:26Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> That is just a delight to read. Grinning ear to ear!! 😃

The Daily Stormer [has moved to the dark web](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/america-top-neo-nazi-website-daily-stormer-orders-followers-harass-funeral-heather-heyer-victim-a7895496.html). I guess because no legitimate business is willing to host them.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/624 "2017-08-16T23:33:21Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You folks are sad. Sometime in your life you might need someone to advocate for your rights. You won’t think it’s so contemptible or mockable then.
> 
> Short sighted dim wits such as yourselves are probably the number one argument for keeping the electoral college.

If you were in charge of advocating for my rights, I’d kiss them goodbye. You are a terrible, terrible advocate. You have the charm of a shiny apple’s half a worm. You have the rhetorical prowess of fleas. You are the intellectual equivalent of a nose that needs blowing.

But feel free to think you’re the kitty’s pjs. You do you!

Somewhere else if we’re lucky.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/625 "2017-08-16T23:43:46Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> If you were in charge of advocating for my rights, I’d kiss them goodbye. You are a terrible, terrible advocate. You have the charm of a shiny apple’s half a worm. You have the rhetorical prowess of fleas. You are the intellectual equivalent of a nose that needs blowing.

Charm is irrelevant. Goddess? Try some humility.

And why are you ripping off Dr. Seuss with your attempts at insults?

The sad thing is I’m actually advocating for rights while others on this board are advocating violence. You obviously support them you scuzzy little creature you. Sad.

Mob violence sympathizer.

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> But feel free to think you’re the kitty’s pjs. You do you!
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> Somewhere else if we’re lucky.

I don’t even know what that means. And your little font is dumb.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/626 "2017-08-16T23:50:41Z")

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But don’t you people understand!??!?! octopus is a great hero for our generation, protecting the rights of even Nazis and we’re all just too small and simple minded to understand his greatness!

😛

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/627 "2017-08-16T23:51:43Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> “First they came for the Nazis, and I said nothing, because there are good people on both sides”.
> 
> Octo, it’s pretty funny to see the fucking Nazis trying to hide behind the rule of law, when the whole point of, y’know, Nazism, is that the rule of law is horseshit, and violence and force are the way the world should work.
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> I mean, suppose you’re a real life Nazi, who believes might makes right. So what happened in World War II again? The Nazis lost, their armies were defeated, their country was bombed flat and occupied by their enemies. If you really were a Nazi shouldn’t you switch sides at that point and join the liberal enlightenment?

Well might does make right.

Look, I don’t understand why people are Nazis. Just like I don’t understand why people and professors are communists. I can’t get into their mindset about a global, Jewish conspiracy and all that noise. You ever read the stuff at Stormfront? The writing and logic there is the biggest rebuke to White supremacy.

In fact I think identity politics in general are stupid. That’s why I think people of color is a stupid and divisive phrase.

What I really get annoyed by, even more than Nazis, are the intellectually dishonest and stupid people who are willing to not only dishonestly misrepresent an argument but then are willing to ignore their own professed values.

These people are more dangerous due to sheer volume.

Let’s do some badness math.

200 nazis x 300 units of badness.

Compare that to at least 1,000,000 intellectually dishonest, politically motivated hypocrites x 3 units of badness.

Yeah. That’s more bad. Can’t argue with math.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/628 "2017-08-16T23:52:26Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Charm is irrelevant. Goddess? Try some humility.

My username is actually a reminder to myself about an incident years ago where I was arrogant and got some comeuppance for it.

My contempt for you is independent of that. I’m pretty sure the most humble among us can spot your oozing sanctimony.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/629 "2017-08-16T23:52:46Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> But don’t you people understand!??!?! octopus is a great hero for our generation, protecting the rights of even Nazis and we’re all just too small and simple minded to understand his greatness!
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> 😛

Why don’t you also critique the Supreme Court and the ACLU you disingenuous douche?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/630 "2017-08-16T23:54:35Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> My username is actually a reminder to myself about an incident years ago where I was arrogant and got some comeuppance for it.
> 
> My contempt for you is independent of that. I’m pretty sure the most humble among us can spot your oozing sanctimony.

Contempt because I’m the person pointing out your hypocrisy, your overly emotional arguement, your advocacy for violence. Yeah I’d rather be sanctimonious than part of a hysterical mob.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/631 "2017-08-16T23:58:27Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Contempt because I’m the person pointing out your hypocrisy, your overly emotional arguement, your advocacy for violence. Yeah I’d rather be sanctimonious than part of a hysterical mob.

Okily dokily.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/632 "2017-08-17T00:15:36Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Well might does make right.

Say what again?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/633 "2017-08-17T00:19:26Z")

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> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> Say what again?

It’s a short sentence. Just read it again.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/634 "2017-08-17T00:30:43Z")

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\<I’m going to hate myself for engaging this putz … sigh\>

Hey,\*\* octopus\*\* -

Find and replace every occurrence of “nazi” with “ISIS”.

Now, still an advocate for their right to free speech?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/635 "2017-08-17T00:32:41Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> \<I’m going to hate myself for engaging this putz … sigh\>
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> Hey,\*\* octopus\*\* -
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> Find and replace every occurrence of “nazi” with “ISIS”.
> 
> Now, still an advocate for their right to free speech?

He’ll just say “of course.” It’s hard to catch someone up with a thought experiment if they aren’t doing any thinking. He has latched onto something he thinks is a rhetorical winner. That’s as deep as that puddle gets.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/636 "2017-08-17T00:33:43Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> \<I’m going to hate myself for engaging this putz … sigh\>
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> Hey,\*\* octopus\*\* -
> 
> Find and replace every occurrence of “nazi” with “ISIS”.
> 
> Now, still an advocate for their right to free speech?

Absolutely. And I’ve been clear about that forever.

Now chopping off heads and pushing gays off of buildings and other atrocities means ISIS as an organized faction needs to be dealt with.

And there is no need to be a douche, even in The Pit, because of a difference in the acceptance of political violence.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/637 "2017-08-17T00:35:48Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> He’ll just say “of course.” It’s hard to catch someone up with a thought experiment if they aren’t doing any thinking.

Ironic.  
You seem to be having another name changing moment, goddess.

What is it with your dumb, barely literate (all pretension aside) self, that has such a difficult time with a bit a of intellectual consistency?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/638 "2017-08-17T00:37:57Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Ironic.  
> You seem to be having another name changing moment, goddess.
> 
> What is it with your dumb, barely literate (all pretension aside), that has such a difficult time with a bit a of intellectual consistency?

I love a good Gaudere’s law sighting.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/639 "2017-08-17T00:39:40Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Absolutely.
> 
> Now chopping off heads and pushing gays off of buildings and other atrocities means ISIS as an organized faction needs to be dealt with.
> 
> And there is no need to be a douche, even in The Pit, because of a difference in the acceptance of political violence.

What about the lynchings and genocide?.. you just want to let bygones be bygones?.. water under the bridge?

Fine… how would you deal with ISIS if they staged similar marches in Anytown, USA?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/640 "2017-08-17T00:44:14Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> What about the lynchings and genocide?.. you just want to let bygones be bygones?.. water under the bridge?
> 
> Fine… how would you deal with ISIS if they staged similar marches in Anytown, USA?

Is this ISIS acting illegally? Are we in a declared war with ISIS? That’s tricky actually. I’m not sure what ISIS can or cannot do legally in the US.

Let’s assume they can march legally in the US. If so and they are acting peacefully than that is their right. Do I agree with their atrocities no. But if an ISIS supporter can march legally and peacefully I’m not going to advocate violently attacking them. Is this really a hard concept?

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