# Unite the Right Racist Scum **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 12, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471 "2017-08-12T22:19:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/681 "2017-08-17T17:31:25Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > We might be talking at cross-purposes. I’m talking about octopus. Okrahoma is another basket of tentacles entirely. Could be. This shit gets so confusing. Still, I have zero use for Nazi apologists. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/682 "2017-08-17T19:36:26Z")
> [@Latro](#): > > Or they could be proponents of free speech or anti AntiFa or, as noted, just trolling youths. Exactly! Lord knows the first thing I think to do when I feel like being a proponent of free speech is to grab the Nazi regalia from my closet and start screaming Nazi slogans while marching with a bunch of Nazis.:rolleyes: I don’t suppose you’ve considered what being anti-“AntiFa” would make you, have you? Here’s a clue: the symbol of [Vanguard America](https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/vanguard-america) is an eagle clutching a [fasces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_symbolism). ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/683 "2017-08-17T19:43:14Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Assuming you are merely a tireless defender of civil liberties, I’m sure your posting history is littered with examples of impassioned defenses of non-Nazi Americans. What a pathetic attempt at a “ha, gotcha!” Well, if people were advocating for violence on threads that were “fresh from my garden, I had a radish. Yum!” And there was no opposition, then yes, I’d probably be posting a defense of the radish lover. Regardless of the hysterical and delusional vitriol that undoubtedly would flow my way because I dared challenge the hive mind’s self righteous anger. If there were a thread full of bad puns and violence was being advocated, well I suppose no right is truly absolute. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/684 "2017-08-17T19:45:06Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Could be. This shit gets so confusing. Still, I have zero use for Nazi apologists. Of course it is. That’s because you are simple. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/685 "2017-08-17T20:01:26Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I don’t think he’s either one. I think he’s an intellectual lightweight who really likes platitudes. more likely to be both ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/686 "2017-08-17T20:09:25Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > more likely to be both Of course you don’t have anything substantive to add. Here’s a cookie. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/687 "2017-08-17T20:19:14Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Why don’t you also critique the Supreme Court and the ACLU you disingenuous douche? Oh? What is the Conservative-heavy Supreme Court guilty of? Fill us in as we continue to watch Republican unity unravel. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/688 "2017-08-17T20:22:18Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Oh? What is the Conservative-heavy Supreme Court guilty of? Fill us in as we continue to watch Republican unity unravel. Try to keep up with the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/689 "2017-08-17T20:24:21Z")
Shut the fuck up, Nazi apologist douche-bag. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/690 "2017-08-17T20:27:02Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Shut the fuck up, Nazi apologist douche-bag. Someone’s triggered. Poor retarded potty mouth. Head hurts when exposed to difficult ideas. I feel for your dog or partner. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/691 "2017-08-17T20:29:39Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I don’t think he’s a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer. I think he has latched onto a philosophical talking point without thinking it through, which leads him to make facile statements about difficult real-world issues. > > At a guess, he deeply admires Rand Paul, who is of a similar ilk. With his kind, it’s more that the lefties cannot, cannot, cannot be allowed to have a “win”. No matter what happens–including a murderous Nazi rally–you have to argue that it’s the left wing’s fault, because politics is a zero-sum game, and any win by the liberals is a loss for the conservatives. It’s the same thing that motivated Trump. Trump isn’t any more racist than he should be. It’s just that everything has to be blamed on the other side, never mind that it puts him on the same side as the Klan and the Aryan Brotherhood. I’m sure Octo doesn’t exactly enjoy defending Nazis, but he has no choice, they’re being attacked by liberals, and so he has to defend them, because liberals are always wrong. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/692 "2017-08-17T20:31:47Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > What a pathetic attempt at a “ha, gotcha!” > > Well, if people were advocating for violence on threads that were “fresh from my garden, I had a radish. Yum!” And there was no opposition, then yes, I’d probably be posting a defense of the radish lover. Regardless of the hysterical and delusional vitriol that undoubtedly would flow my way because I dared challenge the hive mind’s self righteous anger. > > If there were a thread full of bad puns and violence was being advocated, well I suppose no right is truly absolute. ☹ Yeah, didn’t think so. Nazi sympathizer. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/693 "2017-08-17T20:32:36Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Try to keep up with the thread. I am. I quoted you. What you said was part of the thread. So, answer my question. What is the Conservative-heavy Supreme Court guilty of? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/694 "2017-08-17T20:34:31Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > He’s either a sympathizer, or a troll. Pick one. This is why I think “Punch a Nazi” is not okay. This kind of thing is what changed my mind. Because there are a disturbing number of people who can’t draw the line and say, “Okay, if we’re going to turn ‘Nazi’ into a grouping that we can abuse, dox, and punch, we need to be very clear on who is and who is not a Nazi.” I can’t trust you (or many other people) to draw the line between obnoxious jerks on the right and literal Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/695 "2017-08-17T20:37:39Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > I am. I quoted you. What you said was part of the thread. So, answer my question. What is the Conservative-heavy Supreme Court guilty of? He was trying to claim that attacks on his POV are attacks on the ACLU and the Supreme Court because he’s only saying the same things they have said. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/696 "2017-08-17T20:41:10Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Someone’s triggered. Poor retarded potty mouth. Head hurts when exposed to difficult ideas. I feel for your dog or partner. It’s so funny to watch you clutch your pearls when someone says a bad word. We should change the name of the pit to the fainting couch. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/697 "2017-08-17T20:43:14Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Yeah, didn’t think so. Nazi sympathizer. What do you get out of being a liar? You know you are being intellectually dishonest and it bothers you not at all. You psychopathic? I suppose everyone who advocates for a particular right is also advocating for every permutation of the expression of that right. Be thankful your part of the brain responsible for breathing isn’t as defective as the part that is responsible for thinking. > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > I am. I quoted you. What you said was part of the thread. So, answer my question. What is the Conservative-heavy Supreme Court guilty of? Like I said keep up. You also conveniently left out the portion about the ACLU. Nice selective response. > **[ACLU History | American Civil Liberties Union](https://www.aclu.org/about/aclu-history)** This was in 1977 > **[National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie)** > > National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 (1977), arising out of what is sometimes referred to as the Skokie Affair, was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court dealing with freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. This case is considered a "classic" free speech case in constitutional law classes. Related court decisions are captioned Skokie v. NSPA, Collin v. Smith, and Smith v. Collin. The Supreme Court ruled 5–4, per curiam. The Supreme Court Before the Skok... > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > This is why I think “Punch a Nazi” is not okay. This kind of thing is what changed my mind. Because there are a disturbing number of people who can’t draw the line and say, “Okay, if we’re going to turn ‘Nazi’ into a grouping that we can abuse, dox, and punch, we need to be very clear on who is and who is not a Nazi.” I can’t trust you (or many other people) to draw the line between obnoxious jerks on the right and literal Nazis. That can be extrapolated to any group that has a dislike for another group. Religion A vs Religion B. Georgia fans vs Florida fans in college football. Etc. On a side note: for a website satirically titled fighting ignorance it sure attracts a lot of ignorance. It’s exceedingly disappointing that people have an impossible time with very simple concepts. I have a feeling that 1+1 = 2 would cause certain heads to explode around here. What is that sorcery? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/698 "2017-08-17T20:43:48Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > This is why I think “Punch a Nazi” is not okay. This kind of thing is what changed my mind. Because there are a disturbing number of people who can’t draw the line and say, “Okay, if we’re going to turn ‘Nazi’ into a grouping that we can abuse, dox, and punch, we need to be very clear on who is and who is not a Nazi.” I can’t trust you (or many other people) to draw the line between obnoxious jerks on the right and literal Nazis. Yes, this. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/699 "2017-08-17T20:48:51Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > He was trying to claim that attacks on his POV are attacks on the ACLU and the Supreme Court because he’s only saying the same things they have said. They are same. Duh. > [@jsgoddess](#): > > It’s so funny to watch you clutch your pearls when someone says a bad word. We should change the name of the pit to the fainting couch. Let’s say for sake of argument after you post reasonable statement someone says “shut your mouth Nazi bitch.” What would that add? Do you think that those words even in the Pit are going to make the overall board a better place? What do they accomplish? None of you people can actually refute what I’m saying. All you barely literate, to be generous, or intellectually dishonest to be accurate, people can do is attack me as a person. Sad. And the thing is I’m sure there are many who think just as I do posting on this board. They don’t want to deal with you goddamn retards so they stay out of the Pit to advocate freedom of speech. Oh no, I feel a self-induced swooning. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/700 "2017-08-17T20:49:35Z")
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