# Unite the Right Racist Scum

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 12, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471 "2017-08-12T22:19:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/101 "2017-08-13T04:10:27Z")

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Yeah, the fact that a Trump advisor wore a nazi medal to an inauguration ball means that we have to take nazis in America much more seriously.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/102 "2017-08-13T04:14:49Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I call bullshit on the “not Republicans” crap. These are Trump’s people. Trump ran as a Republican, and Republicans let him. They supported him during the campaign, and they voted for him.
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> It literally turned my stomach during the campaign watching Republicans do their ‘nudge, nudge, wink, wink, tsk, tsk’ routine whenever Trump raised the birther issue, among so many other white supremacist dog whistles, in their quest for votes and control of government. Anything – anything! – to appoint the Mercers’ bought-and-paid-for pick to the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch. Anything to reverse decades of progress in equal rights. Anything to destroy voters’ rights, foster misogyny and homophobia, reverse environmental protections, burn Obama’s legacy to the ground. All rooted in their discomfort with the black, brown and female. Discomfort with anyone different to them.
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> This _is_ the Republican party today. With their support and defense of illegal Muslim bans, blind eyes turned to climate change, voter suppression efforts, willingness to use any and all tools to advance their selfish agenda, including co-opting these hate-filled losers with their Confederate flags and crazy open carry substitute-for-masculinity weaponry, this is who Republicans are. Listening to their pious, self-serving comments today, all I could hear was, “Nobody here but us chickens!” Gratuitous opportunists.
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> Fuck them all, right up the ass. I don’t know how anyone supports or votes for these craven, revolting dickheads. Get us to the goddamn midterms, so we can stop them hurting more and more people.
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> (Yes, there are decent Republicans. Many of them are leaving the party.)
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> And another thing. The whole point of white supremacist ideology is to _oppress_. People against white supremacist ideology are fighting to _not oppress_. If you can’t tell the difference between those two things, then I wonder how you manage to remember to breathe.

Oh goodness. No one is saying don’t speak out against extreme ideology. People are saying don’t physically attack those who have a legal right to assemble. It’s a real simple concept.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/103 "2017-08-13T04:16:27Z")

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I’m with [Mike Rapaport](https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelRapaport/status/896385850300289025/video/1), if those racist assholes were stupid enough to come to my town, at least a few wouldn’t be leaving and those that made it out would have tiki torches up their asses.

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/104 "2017-08-13T04:17:41Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> This. Only one side came wearing shirts with Hitler quotes and carrying guns. Only one side ran people over.
> 
> So Stringbean, please shut the fuck up.

I understand that tensions are high right now. Please see my follow-up post (#79) where I sought to clarify what I meant. I’m not here to defend Nazis and I would mention that I voted for Hillary specifically because of the abhorrent ideas Donald Trump espoused during his campaign.

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**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/105 "2017-08-13T04:18:59Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Oh goodness. No one is saying don’t speak out against extreme ideology. People are saying don’t physically attack those who have a legal right to assemble. It’s a real simple concept.

Last night they were assembled unlawfully. So now what.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/106 "2017-08-13T04:19:10Z")

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[quote=“iiandyiiii, post:98, topic:793471”]

It showed much, much more violence initiated by white supremacists than the reverse.  
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There was definitely violence. If you could actually see who was “initiating violence” you have greater powers of discernment than I do.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/107 "2017-08-13T04:20:07Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Bullshit.
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> So why are you continuing them?

How about you say something about some of the unhinged left wing posters above you and stop fixating that I didn’t put enough qualifying adjectives in front of the therm radical progressive? Ignoring the call for murder of political opponents while nitpicking a phrase seems like misguided priorities.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/108 "2017-08-13T04:21:10Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> It showed much, much more violence initiated by white supremacists than the reverse.
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> Is this really shocking to you? Many of these assholes came with guns and in combat gear.

How are “guns” relevant? No one got shot. Yes, the Nazis came prepared to fight. And many of the “antifa” assholes came with bats, chemicals to throw and prepared to fight. Maybe they “wanted violence” as well?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/109 "2017-08-13T04:21:58Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Oh goodness. No one is saying don’t speak out against extreme ideology. **People are saying don’t physically attack those who have a legal right to assemble.** It’s a real simple concept.

And where did you find that in my post anywhere? You obviously missed my first post in the other thread: [Post #11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20407794#post20407794)

I totally defended their right to peaceably assemble, despicable as I find their ideology.

I couldn’t agree more. _Don’t_ physically attack those who have a legal right to assemble. Like don’t throw full bottles at them. Don’t beat them with sticks. Don’t run them down with cars.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/110 "2017-08-13T04:24:08Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> I understand that tensions are high right now. Please see my follow-up post (#79) where I sought to clarify what I meant. I’m not here to defend Nazis and I would mention that I voted for Hillary specifically because of the abhorrent ideas Donald Trump espoused during his campaign.

Clarification is good. But I will not back off one inch regarding my hatred of Nazis. I see them as the enemy. There is no middle ground, no consensus, no understanding. They are the enemy.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/111 "2017-08-13T04:25:05Z")

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> [@Tee](#):
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> Last night they were assembled unlawfully. So now what.

So what? Let the cops handle it. Your suggestion is to let a violent mob enforce the law against assembly?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/112 "2017-08-13T04:27:02Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> And where did you find that in my post anywhere? You obviously missed my first post in the other thread: [Post #11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20407794#post20407794)
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> I totally defended their right to peaceably assemble, despicable as I find their ideology.
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> I couldn’t agree more. _Don’t_ physically attack those who have a legal right to assemble. Like don’t throw full bottles at them. Don’t beat them with sticks. **Don’t run them down with cars**.

Nice touch, that last one.

Several well known Republicans, some of whom I usually can’t stand, are calling them traitors and terrorists, and calling for an FBI+DoJ investigation. I agree with them. Lock the fuckers up.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/113 "2017-08-13T04:28:15Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> And where did you find that in my post anywhere? You obviously missed my first post in the other thread: [Post #11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20407794#post20407794)
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> I totally defended their right to peaceably assemble, despicable as I find their ideology.
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> I couldn’t agree more. _Don’t_ physically attack those who have a legal right to assemble. Like don’t throw full bottles at them. Don’t beat them with sticks. Don’t run them down with cars.

Alright. We agree.

I just get tired of this ridiculous, low wisdom rhetoric that is going to lead to real problems in the future.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/114 "2017-08-13T04:28:37Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Clarification is good. But I will not back off one inch regarding my hatred of Nazis. I see them as the enemy. There is no middle ground, no consensus, no understanding. They are the enemy.

So do I. But I am not going to violently, physically assault them because of their political views and I think it is anti-democratic to advocate that. Apparently you (and others here) think it’s just fine.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/115 "2017-08-13T04:31:34Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Nice touch, that last one.
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> Several well known Republicans, some of whom I usually can’t stand, are calling them traitors and terrorists, and calling for an FBI+DoJ investigation. I agree with them. Lock the fuckers up.

Better late than never, I suppose. Funny thing, though. They all heard Trump’s calls to violence during his campaign, exhorting those in his crowds to beat people who disagreed with him, offering to pay for their defenses, the birtherism and all the rest. All I heard then was crickets among these oh-so-concerned Republicans.

They all knew exactly what they were getting, and they sure didn’t care.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/116 "2017-08-13T04:32:42Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Alright. We agree.
> 
> I just get tired of this ridiculous, low wisdom rhetoric that is going to lead to real problems in the future.

It’s the Pit. I’m venting. Get over it.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/117 "2017-08-13T04:33:31Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> It’s the Pit. I’m venting. Get over it.

I was directing that at those advocating a war.

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/118 "2017-08-13T04:34:49Z")

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Westboro Baptist Church makes this look like a daycare for wannabe’s.

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/119 "2017-08-13T05:05:40Z")

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I’ve spent my life thinking organised religion was the cancer upon society until today…

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-racist-scum/793471/120 "2017-08-13T05:12:08Z")

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And in the thread over in MPSIMS, we have our favorite asshole **Shodan** defending these slime. Typical.

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