# "Unite the Right" white nationalist march: Ugliness on full display. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 12, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444 "2017-08-12T15:06:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/41 "2017-08-12T19:27:10Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > It’s being reported as a ‘‘three car pile up.’’ Can someone explain this? Car travelled at speed into the rear of another, which in turn crashed into the one in front. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/42 "2017-08-12T19:30:43Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Reports say there were no license plates on the car. Sounds premeditated, to me. The Vox article [here.](Car travelled at speed into the rear of another, which in turn crashed into the one in front.) > [@](#): > > The driver was reportedly taken into police custody. Police officers at the scene told reporters that the driver “wasn’t malicious.” [QUOTE=Baron] Car travelled at speed into the rear of another, which in turn crashed into the one in front. [/QUOTE] So the instigating car was the one in the back? Fuck it, I’ll watch the video. Maybe they are saying the driver in the front wasn’t malicious. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/43 "2017-08-12T19:35:19Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Can someone explain to me in legalese why carrying a swastika flag doesn’t count as incitement to violence? [Collin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie) vs [Smith](https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7369966442251414810). (No, I didn’t know that off the top of my head–Google is my friend.) ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/44 "2017-08-12T19:36:17Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > So the instigating car was the one in the back? Yes, very clearly going way, way too fast in a narrow, busy street. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/45 "2017-08-12T19:36:51Z")
First amendment: > [@](#): > > Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Curious, Shodan, if you see anything in the first amendment that might make it inapplicable to today’s events. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/46 "2017-08-12T19:36:56Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > You know that’s not the real reason for the march, right? According to David Duke, the reason is “[to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-duke-charlottesville-rally-trump_us_598f3ca8e4b0909642974a10)”. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/47 "2017-08-12T19:38:26Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Yes, very clearly going way, way too fast in a narrow, busy street. Yeah, I watched the video. I’m hard-pressed to believe that wasn’t intentional, but trust the judgment of the authorities. Also there are conflicting reports, some saying the guy was taken into custody, others saying they only have his car. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/48 "2017-08-12T19:39:15Z")
On preview, never mind. Prayers for your wife, **Sailboat**. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/49 "2017-08-12T19:39:20Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Trump to speak at 3pm. His Sister Souljah moment? Lol Such a predictable fail. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/50 "2017-08-12T19:42:25Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > According to David Duke, the reason is “[to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-duke-charlottesville-rally-trump_us_598f3ca8e4b0909642974a10)”. Just to clarify, if the protest was really about the statue, the protesters would be trying to find the broadest base of support to keep it. They would not be chanting “Blood and Soil!” and “Jews will not replace us!” They would disavow David Duke and Richard Spencer. ETA: My thoughts are with your wife, **Sailboat**. I hope she recovers quickly and in good health. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/51 "2017-08-12T19:42:41Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > \*\*My wife was hit by that car. \*\* Only on SDMB now while i wait for information about where to go and make some kind of arrangement for animal care. Apparently injured, extent being determined. > > Not in the mood for defenders of Nazis right now. Very sorry to hear that – best wishes for recovery. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/52 "2017-08-12T19:46:28Z")
I wish I could help, Sailboat, but I’m four states the other way. Best wishes to you both. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/53 "2017-08-12T19:48:18Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > \*\*My wife was hit by that car. \*\* Only on SDMB now while i wait for information about where to go and make some kind of arrangement for animal care. Apparently injured, extent being determined. > > Not in the mood for defenders of Nazis right now. Best wishes to you all for a full and speedy recovery, skipper. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/54 "2017-08-12T19:50:42Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Trump’s tweet: "“We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!” Too little, too late. ---
**Author:** ![Amara\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7993a0/32.png) [@Amara\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amara_1)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/55 "2017-08-12T19:55:43Z")
Sorry **Sailboat** ; best wishes to your family and all of those injured. We need to start calling these activities and shooting the black churchgoers, terrorism. The double standard of “not malicious” or “lone wolf” passed credibility a long time ago. The videos showing white nationalists walking en masse to somewhere else and calling a black woman, “Nigger” and “Go the fuck back to Africa” is terrorism. This[picture](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/08/12/us/12charlottesville_web3/12charlottesville_web10-master675.jpg) is terrorism. And, on a side note, what amazing strength shown by those students standing hand to hand and surrounded by a literal torch wielding mob. I would not have expected to see a a group of white people spouting Nazi slogans and bearing torches marching in the US in the 21st century. I would also not have expected to see a president not condemn this harshly. ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/56 "2017-08-12T19:56:11Z")
Good lord! Thoughts and prayers to **Sailboat’s** wife. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/57 "2017-08-12T19:58:26Z")
Echoing hopes that your wife is okay, **Sailboat**. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/58 "2017-08-12T19:59:30Z")
Trump condemned the violence “[on many sides](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-to-comment-on-violence-in-charlottesville-over-white-nationalist-rally-live-updates/)” because he is a coward who is afraid of his base. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/59 "2017-08-12T20:00:50Z")
apparently some one has died [MSN](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/charlottesville-mayor-says-a-life-has-been-lost-in-protests/ar-AApVrF3?li=BBnb7Kz) ---
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Oh, **Sailboat** , I hope your wife is okay. I am so, so sorry. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444.md?page=4)