# "Unite the Right" white nationalist march: Ugliness on full display. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 12, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444 "2017-08-12T15:06:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/601 "2017-08-16T08:11:57Z")
> [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > Some of the comments are far more shocking than that footage. I can’t help but wonder how many of them are sincere and how many are just trolling for reaction. Either way it’s depressing. What is the use of trying to distinguish between sincerity and trolling, in this case? The whole course of events of the day is a pretty damned good indication that we ought to take them at their word. And - from my perspective - building the strongest resistance we can. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/602 "2017-08-16T10:12:33Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > 63 million people in this country voted for Trump. I’m curious as to what conclusion we’re supposed to draw from the fact that among them are an **infinitesimal** number of Nazi sympathizers. The word I’ve emphasized doesn’t mean what you think it does. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/603 "2017-08-16T22:02:20Z")
Poor snowflake. > **[Neo-Nazi Charlottesville marcher sobs in video after being told there’s a...](https://deadstate.org/neo-nazi-charlottesville-marcher-sobs-in-video-after-finding-out-theres-a-warrant-for-his-arrestfbrefreshforce/)** > > A neo-Nazi who took part in the Charlottesville rally this weekend and was featured in a piece by VICE, posted a video of himself crying with fear after learning that a warrant was issued for his arrest. > [@](#): > > A neo-Nazi who took part in the Charlottesville rally this weekend and was featured in a piece by VICE, posted a video of himself crying with fear after allegedly being told that a warrant was issued for his arrest. Here’s the VICE video: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/RIrcB1sAN8I/maxresdefault.jpg "Charlottesville: Race and Terror – VICE News Tonight on HBO") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I&t=2m17s) Here he is sobbing about the arrest warrant: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/lyeTj002DCo/hqdefault.jpg "American Terrorist Christopher Cantwell bawling his eyes out") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyeTj002DCo) ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/604 "2017-08-16T22:10:48Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Poor snowflake. > [Neo-Nazi Charlottesville marcher sobs in video after being told there’s a warrant for his arrest – DeadState](http://deadstate.org/neo-nazi-charlottesville-marcher-sobs-in-video-after-finding-out-theres-a-warrant-for-his-arrestfbrefreshforce/) > > Here’s the VICE video: > [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I&feature=youtu.be&t=2m17s](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I&feature=youtu.be&t=2m17s) > > Here he is sobbing about the arrest warrant: > [https://youtu.be/lyeTj002DCo](https://youtu.be/lyeTj002DCo) The editing period timed out on me. I wanted to add that his part in the VICE video starts around 2:20. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/605 "2017-08-16T23:16:19Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Poor snowflake. > [Neo-Nazi Charlottesville marcher sobs in video after being told there’s a warrant for his arrest – DeadState](http://deadstate.org/neo-nazi-charlottesville-marcher-sobs-in-video-after-finding-out-theres-a-warrant-for-his-arrestfbrefreshforce/) > > Here’s the VICE video: > [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I&feature=youtu.be&t=2m17s](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I&feature=youtu.be&t=2m17s) > > Here he is sobbing about the arrest warrant: > [https://youtu.be/lyeTj002DCo](https://youtu.be/lyeTj002DCo) It’s so fitting that Schadenfreude was originally a German word. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/606 "2017-08-17T04:16:41Z")
There was [a protester](http://deadstate.org/white-nationalist-from-viral-photo-swears-im-not-the-angry-racist-they-see/) (not an anti-protester) whose image got spread around a lot. Probably because of his awesome do. > [@](#): > > … > “I came to this march for the message that white European culture has a right to be here just like every other culture,” (Peter) Cvjetanovic said. “It is not perfect; there are flaws to it, of course. However I do believe that the replacement of the statue will be the slow replacement of white heritage within the United States and the people who fought and defended and built their homeland. Robert E Lee is a great example of that. He wasn’t a perfect man, but I want to honor and respect what he stood for during his time.” > … > > “I understand the photo has a very negative connotation. But I hope that the people sharing the photo are willing to listen that I’m not the angry racist they see in that photo.” > > Cvjetanovic said that his role as a white nationalist is to “care for all people.” Yeah, whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/607 "2017-08-17T07:32:05Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > It’s so fitting that Schadenfreude was originally a German word. Is it not a German word anymore? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/608 "2017-08-17T08:27:32Z")
You know who else thinks the monuments should come down? [Stonewall Jackson’s great-great-grandsons.](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/stonewall_jackson_s_grandsons_the_monuments_must_go.html) > [@](#): > > Last weekend, Charlottesville showed us unequivocally that Confederate statues offer pre-existing iconography for racists. The people who descended on Charlottesville last weekend were there to make a naked show of force for white supremacy. To them, the Robert E. Lee statue is a clear symbol of their hateful ideology. The Confederate statues on Monument Avenue are, too—especially Jackson, who faces north, supposedly as if to continue the fight. > We are writing to say that we understand justice very differently from our grandfather’s grandfather, and we wish to make it clear his statue does not represent us. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/609 "2017-08-17T09:38:13Z")
That letter from the great, great grandsons was, uh, great. I had no idea that Stonewall’s sister was an abolitionist and never spoke to him again after he joined the confederacy. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/610 "2017-08-17T12:20:20Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Is it not a German word anymore? 😃 It’s now an English word in all its glory and mispronunciation! ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/611 "2017-08-17T16:17:03Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Poor snowflake. > [Neo-Nazi Charlottesville marcher sobs in video after being told there’s a warrant for his arrest – DeadState](http://deadstate.org/neo-nazi-charlottesville-marcher-sobs-in-video-after-finding-out-theres-a-warrant-for-his-arrestfbrefreshforce/) > > Here’s the VICE video: > [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I&feature=youtu.be&t=2m17s](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I&feature=youtu.be&t=2m17s) > > Here he is sobbing about the arrest warrant: > [https://youtu.be/lyeTj002DCo](https://youtu.be/lyeTj002DCo) More info about him. > **[Christopher Cantwell](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/christopher-cantwell)** > > Christopher Cantwell is an anti-Semitic, Alt-Right shock jock and an unapologetic fascist, who spews white nationalist propaganda with a libertarian spin on his live-streamed call-in show, “Radical Agenda.” ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/612 "2017-08-17T18:21:16Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Poor snowflake. > [Neo-Nazi Charlottesville marcher sobs in video after being told there’s a warrant for his arrest – DeadState](http://deadstate.org/neo-nazi-charlottesville-marcher-sobs-in-video-after-finding-out-theres-a-warrant-for-his-arrestfbrefreshforce/) > > Here’s the VICE video: > [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I&feature=youtu.be&t=2m17s](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I&feature=youtu.be&t=2m17s) > > Here he is sobbing about the arrest warrant: > [https://youtu.be/lyeTj002DCo](https://youtu.be/lyeTj002DCo) I finally watched that VICE doc. Jesus. That guy had no remorse whatsoever that someone was killed. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/613 "2017-08-17T23:45:19Z")
Snowflake update. > **[Daily Kos](https://www.dailykos.com)** > > Daily Kos is a progressive news site that fights for democracy by giving our audience information and resources to win elections and impact government. Our coverage is assiduously factual, ethical, and unapologetically liberal. We amplify what we... > [@](#): > > “Money is not easy either,” he wrote. “PayPal was the most important part of my financial life, and it has now shut me out.” > … > And finally, to add insult to injury, Mr. Cantwell has now been kicked off of OK Cupid. Somewhere a white supremacist woman is wondering why her message never got answered. > … > Those purported warrants for his arrest? Well, they now exist. > > Officials from the Virginia Commonwealth Attorney’s Office said Thursday that Cantwell is wanted for illegal use of gases, and injury by caustic agent or explosive. Both are felony charges, officials said. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/614 "2017-08-18T00:06:48Z")
Someone tarred and feathered a Jefferson Davis monument in Arizona. > **[Someone tarred and feathered a Jefferson Davis monument in Arizona](https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/17/1690994/-Someone-tarred-and-feathered-a-Jefferson-Davis-monument-in-Arizona)** > > Like many Confederate monuments, the Jefferson Davis monument in Arizona was erected long, long after the Civil War. Like many Confederate monuments, this one was erected by the Daughters of the Confederacy organization in 1943. It wasn’t the only... ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/615 "2017-08-18T00:07:12Z")
Is there an explanation of the felony charges anywhere? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/616 "2017-08-18T00:13:51Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Is there an explanation of the felony charges anywhere? Here’s another article about it, but it really doesn’t go into any more detail. > **[Warrants issued for N.H. white supremacist - The Boston Globe](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/08/17/facebook-bans-white-nationalist-accounts-over-hate-speech/0Y359546xMoKaeStccsNRP/story.html)** > > Christopher Cantwell, who was prominently featured in a recent Vice News documentary about the violence in Charlottesville, is wanted in Virginia. It mentions caustic substances, so maybe he used something like pepper spray. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/617 "2017-08-18T00:16:03Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Here’s another article about it, but it really doesn’t go into any more detail. > > [https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/08/17/facebook-bans-white-nationalist-accounts-over-hate-speech/0Y359546xMoKaeStccsNRP/story.html](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/08/17/facebook-bans-white-nationalist-accounts-over-hate-speech/0Y359546xMoKaeStccsNRP/story.html) > > It mentions caustic substances, so maybe he used something like pepper spray. In the Vice piece, I think it was he who claimed to keep getting “maced.” Though I’ve never been maced, I think most people don’t just walk around putting milk on their heads if they are. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/618 "2017-08-18T00:21:31Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > In the Vice piece, I think it was he who claimed to keep getting “maced.” Though I’ve never been maced, I think most people don’t just walk around putting milk on their heads if they are. That’s why I was confused. Maybe it was [this kind of deal.](https://giphy.com/gifs/6yiYt8LHN2d1K) ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/619 "2017-08-18T00:29:14Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > That’s why I was confused. Maybe it was [this kind of deal.](https://giphy.com/gifs/6yiYt8LHN2d1K) That’s about the right level of intellect for him. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/620 "2017-08-18T00:34:01Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > It’s now an English word in all its glory and mispronunciation! We mugged it fair and square. Or as fair as English gets. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444.md?page=32)