# "Unite the Right" white nationalist march: Ugliness on full display. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 12, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444 "2017-08-12T15:06:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/161 "2017-08-13T00:59:56Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Any port in a storm, eh? Fuck that noise. It was a simple pleading for factual accuracy. Whether the driver was or was not in the military isn’t really significant to me. Certainly nothing I’d need a “port in a storm” over. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/162 "2017-08-13T01:01:56Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I don’t know if he was in the military or not, but if i’m reading that report right, it’s just about some individual with the last name “Fields” born in April 1997. I imagine there were a number of people with that same family name and birth month. The end of the report says “without a SSN, the DoD cannot authoritatively assert that this is the same individual …” > > ETA: my quote is imprecise. I’m posting from my phone, and couldn’t copy the text. I believe I captured the gist of it at least. Yes, I’m relaying reports which are of course early. Some early reports are bound to be erroneous. We shall see. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/163 "2017-08-13T01:02:06Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Fuck that noise. It was a simple pleading for factual accuracy. Whether the driver was or was not in the military isn’t really significant to me. Certainly nothing I’d need a “port in a storm” over. That’s cute. How do you make your eyes go all big and innocent like that? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/164 "2017-08-13T01:10:59Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Yes, I’m relaying reports which are of course early. Some early reports are bound to be erroneous. We shall see. Agreed, and I appreciate your post, I was just sharing what jumped out at me when I read it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/165 "2017-08-13T01:11:08Z")
If Trump had an ounce of integrity (yeah, right), he’d denounce in no uncertain terms the rhetoric and actions of the White Supremacists. None of this “on many sides” bullshit. If there are some other sides that need to be denounced, name them and we’ll decide if it’s correct or not. But one side is clearly something that needs to be marginalized. Here’s hoping your wife is OK, **Sailor**. My most sincere wishes that things are resolved quickly and favorably. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/166 "2017-08-13T01:12:09Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > [Here is a pic](https://fsmedia.imgix.net/d1/9e/1b/4e/d33d/4377/9150/8d9c55116e89/charlottesville-va---august-12--white-nationalists-neo-nazis-and-members-of-the-alt-right-with.jpeg?auto=format%2Ccompress&w=700) of some fine, upstanding white trash Trump supporters. Of course, the outfit of someone who is expecting to attend an assembly to peacefully express a political opinion… right. And let’s have a countdown on how long it takes the WH to _speak the words_ “White Supremacist Radicals”… after all they spent all those years on the previous President’s case for not saying “Radical Islamic Terrorist” quick enough. (Plus right now I feel like the statue of R.E.Lee should not be removed, but _destroyed_. Let it be a monument to nothing.) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/167 "2017-08-13T01:34:21Z")
Trump’s “on many sides…” and refusal to specifically condemn white supremacists is particularly awful, even for Trump. Even more disgusting than normal. How can a politician fail to clear that lowest of bars and condemn neo-nazis and white supremacists? ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/168 "2017-08-13T01:43:06Z")
I am truly hoping **Sailboat’s** wife is okay. Is there any news? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/169 "2017-08-13T01:51:19Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Gee, I’m so sorry. I should have said that the right wing scum showed up with _semi_-automatic weapons. > > [Here is a pic](https://fsmedia.imgix.net/d1/9e/1b/4e/d33d/4377/9150/8d9c55116e89/charlottesville-va---august-12--white-nationalists-neo-nazis-and-members-of-the-alt-right-with.jpeg?auto=format%2Ccompress&w=700) of some fine, upstanding white trash Trump supporters. > [@JRDelirious](#): > > Of course, the outfit of someone who is expecting to attend an assembly to peacefully express a political opinion… right. Just saw an interview with a guy dressed like that and with a radio earplug. He said he came for a peaceful demonstration - yeah, battle uniforms are required of any peaceful demonstrator… I’m starting to think that the white nationalists are a greater danger to our nation than Kim Jong Un. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/170 "2017-08-13T01:55:26Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > I’m starting to think that the white nationalists are a greater danger to our nation than Kim Jong Un. No question about that in my mind. Kim isn’t much of threat to the US, though. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/171 "2017-08-13T02:02:28Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > No question about that in my mind. Kim isn’t much of threat to the US, though. I’m curious what you perceive the threat to the nation from white nationalists to be? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/172 "2017-08-13T02:05:24Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I’m curious what you perceive the threat to the nation from white nationalists to be? Assuming you’re not joking: White supremacists have terrorized thousands or more living Americans (and millions more no longer alive). No group or ideology has harmed more Americans, or harmed America more, than white supremacism. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/173 "2017-08-13T02:08:34Z")
If Ivanka is smart, this is where she starts publicly distancing herself from her pops for the future of her brand. Probably gonna have to lose Jared too, but that’s been true ever since everyone got to hear him speak. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/174 "2017-08-13T02:14:49Z")
This has been a heartbreaking day. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/175 "2017-08-13T02:21:23Z")
If there’s a “great enemy” or “great evil” in American history, it’s white supremacism. It’s responsible for the vast majority of oppression, discrimination, and brutality against people living in America in our history. We should all be highly concerned that it still has relevance and more than an insignificant number of adherents. As far as numbers (i.e. how many white supremacists are there in America?), I’d put the floor at (very roughly) about 3% of our population – that’s the percentage that David Duke got in last year’s US Senate race in Louisiana (I think it’s fair to call people who would vote for David Duke white supremacists). That might seem small, but if we can roughly extrapolate that the whole country, that’s millions of American white supremacists. That’s a lot of nazi scumbags. And there might be more. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/176 "2017-08-13T02:25:49Z")
I noticed that a LOT of the Nazis were wearing white polo shirts and light colored khaki pants, just like Trump wears when he’s golfing. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence. And I saw at least one of them wearing a MAGA cap. Paul Ryan, surprisingly condemned the Naxis. “Our hearts are with today’s victims. White supremacy is a scourge. This hate and its terrorism must be confronted and defeated.” > ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/177 "2017-08-13T02:26:18Z")
A 32 year old woman was killed in the car crash, 19 injured. Cannot imagine what Sailboat is going through right now. My thoughts are with him. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/178 "2017-08-13T02:29:07Z")
David Duke, in response to Trump’s tepid response: “I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists.” [https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/896431991821926401](https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/896431991821926401) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/179 "2017-08-13T02:45:38Z")
> **[Virginia governor to white nationalists: 'Go home ... shame on you' | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-white-nationalists-rally/index.html)** > > At least seven people were hurt when a speeding car slammed into another car that was navigating through a throng of counterprotesters in Charlottesville, where a "Unite the Right" rally of white nationalist and other right-wing groups was to take... “Fields’ mother, Samantha Bloom, told the Toledo Blade, a CNN affiliate, that he told her last week he was going to an “alt-right” rally, but she didn’t get involved in his political views. “I told him to be careful … if they are going to rally, to make sure he is doing it peacefully,” she told the newspaper.” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444/180 "2017-08-13T02:46:40Z")
More: > **[Maumee man taken into custody for plowing into Virginia crowd, killing 1](https://www.toledoblade.com/Nation/2017/08/12/Hundreds-face-off-ahead-of-white-nationalist-rally.html)** > > CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — A car with a Lucas County license plate plowed into a crowd of people peacefully protesting a white nationalist rally Saturday in a ... > [@](#): > > Samantha Bloom, Mr. Fields’ mother, told a Blade reporter her son texted her Friday to say he had dropped his cat off at her Monclova Township apartment so he could go to an “alt-right” rally in Virginia. > > “I told him to be careful,” Ms. Bloom said. “[And] if they’re going to rally to make sure he’s doing it peacefully.” > > It didn’t appear that happened, she said tearfully. > > She had returned from dinner Saturday evening unaware that her son was involved and had not yet been contacted by authorities. > > He had told her about the rally last week, but didn’t offer details about its extremist nature. > > “I thought it had something to do with Trump,” she said. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unite-the-right-white-nationalist-march-ugliness-on-full-display/793444.md?page=10)