# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\ **Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/262 "2026-03-01T21:00:30Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > If you wanted proof that trump has no plan for what he expects to happen to Iran, consider that he’s now saying he’s willing to negotiate with the regime. Lest we forget, it was just two days ago that trump said that he wasn’t happy with the ongoing negotiations, but he was willing to give them more time. [https://www.npr.org/2026/02/28/nx-s1-5730151/trump-iran-nuclear-talks](https://www.npr.org/2026/02/28/nx-s1-5730151/trump-iran-nuclear-talks) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/263 "2026-03-01T21:29:00Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > (Hint: it wouldn’t be the No Kings protestors, or even Democrats.) ~~God~~ Trump forbid! We don’t want to liberate Iran only to have it taken over by fascist communism! Or is it communist fascism? Do I really need to put a /s or a 😜?\> ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/264 "2026-03-01T21:35:00Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > If you wanted proof that trump has no plan for what he expects to happen to Iran, consider that he’s now saying he’s willing to negotiate with the regime. Because his definition of “persuasion” is that the person/business/country upon whom pain is inflicted comes to him saying “what do you want me to give you to stop hurting me”. And then that makes him the great negotiator. We already saw in Venezuela that even if most of the regime stays in place but now he can say “we’re running the show” (meaning, we are the ones profiting), that is satisfactory to him. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/265 "2026-03-01T21:46:38Z")
Entering Milo Minderbinder territory faster than I thought. Everybody\* gets a cut and he is closer to the No Bell Piece ~~of Ass~~ Praise he so covets. Win / win / win / tired of winning! \* That is him, his family and some of his friends. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/266 "2026-03-01T23:20:57Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > > [@Moriarty](#): > > > > f you wanted proof that trump has no plan for what he expects to happen to Iran, consider that he’s now saying he’s willing to negotiate with the regime. > > Lest we forget, it was just two days ago that trump said that he wasn’t happy with the ongoing negotiations, but he was willing to give them more time. I think every nation knows that they cannot trust One. Single. Thing. that comes out of his mouth. He (and by extension the United States) is now a completely untrustworthy rogue state. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/267 "2026-03-01T23:25:53Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I think every nation knows that they cannot trust One. Single. Thing. that comes out of his mouth Can you image if there is a faction within Iran that _is_ ready to replace the current regime. Do you think that they have _any_ confidence that they’d be supported if they rise up? Assistance can, and will, be withdrawn on a whim. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/268 "2026-03-01T23:26:13Z")
The ant hill has been kicked over. It’s imperative that Iran’s long range missile launch sites are eliminated. What can be done about mobile launchers? Iran can still strike countries bordering it. [Dubai is already taking strikes.](https://www.wbaltv.com/article/dubai-rocked-by-blasts-from-iranian-airstrikes/70563708) [The UAE is too.](https://www.wionews.com/world/uae-wakes-up-to-loud-explosions-as-iran-drones-missiles-intercepted-schools-go-online-flights-cancelled-what-s-really-happening-israel-us-vs-iran-1772364482915) The Guardian > [@](#): > > **UK prime minister Keir Starmer agreed to allow the US to use UK military bases to launch attacks that degrade Iran’s missiles.** In a recorded statement, the prime minister said the “only way to stop the threat is to destroy the missiles at source in their storage depots or the launchers which are used to fire the missiles” ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/269 "2026-03-01T23:33:32Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Can you image if there is a faction within Iran that _is_ ready to replace the current regime. Do you think that they have _any_ confidence that they’d be supported if they rise up? To be fair the reliability of American support for those encouraged to rise up is not a good track record in past administrations either. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/270 "2026-03-01T23:42:01Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > To be fair the reliability of American support for those encouraged to rise up is not a good track record in past administrations either. Agree- how many times have we screwed over the Kurds? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/271 "2026-03-01T23:43:10Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > To be fair the reliability of American support for those encouraged to rise up is not a good track record in past administrations either. Especially true for the current US regime—why would Donald give a single dollar in support to ‘the people of Iran’? There’s clearly no profit in that for him. > [@What\_Exit](#): > > Fearless leader also mangles language: > > > Still, Trump warned more attacks were coming. “We are going after the rest — They will soon be **floating at the bottom of the sea** , also!” Trump wrote on Truth Social. > > My bolding. Donald is so powerful that at his word, the very laws of physics are repealed!!!1!! > [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > That page is already very long! And starts funny: > > > The operation, codenamed **Roaring Lion** [[b]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Israeli%E2%80%93United_States_strikes_on_Iran#cite_note-28) by Israel[[27]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Israeli%E2%80%93United_States_strikes_on_Iran#cite_note-29)[[28]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Israeli%E2%80%93United_States_strikes_on_Iran#cite_note-30) and **Operation Epic Fury** by the [United States Department of Defense](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Defense) The internet is full of memes depicting Operation Epstein Fury. > **[Operation Epstein Fury](https://www.againstallenemies.net/p/operation-epstein-fury?r=1ne2d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true)** > > New War. No Plan. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/272 "2026-03-02T00:29:38Z")
Iran’s Prince Reza Pahlavi was interviewed tonight on 60 Minutes. His proposal to lead a transitional government is interesting. I think safe guards would be needed to ensure free elections are held within a set time period. I doubt the Prince would survive more than a week in Iran. The Islamists would never allow the Shah’s son to take power. I’m very surprised they didn’t assassinate him thirty to 40 years ago. CBS posted a transcript. > **[Iran's Prince Reza Pahlavi says "this is our chance" after Khamenei's death](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/reza-pahlavi-future-of-iran-after-khamenei-death-60-minutes-transcript/)** > > Prince Reza Pahlavi, a leader of the opposition to the Islamic Republic, discusses whether regime change is coming, who leads a transition, and what happens to Iran's nuclear weapons. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/273 "2026-03-02T00:30:48Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > What can be done about mobile launchers? Iran can still strike countries bordering it. > > [Dubai is already taking strikes.](https://www.wbaltv.com/article/dubai-rocked-by-blasts-from-iranian-airstrikes/70563708) > > [The UAE is too.](https://www.wionews.com/world/uae-wakes-up-to-loud-explosions-as-iran-drones-missiles-intercepted-schools-go-online-flights-cancelled-what-s-really-happening-israel-us-vs-iran-1772364482915) Attacking the Gulf states is monumentally stupid on Iran’s part. I assume they were hoping to pressure the citizenry into pressuring their leadership to cut off American access to their bases or airspace. But if that was their goal, they shouldn’t have attacked civilian targets like airports or high rises. > **[Allies of US in the Gulf bear brunt of Iran attacks](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jk922dgjgo)** > > Iran's attacks on Gulf Arab states suggest the Islamic Republic is targeting not just the US military but also civilian infrastructure. > [@](#): > > Iranian leaders have tried, unsuccessfully, to persuade the Arab states in the Gulf to expel the US Navy and adopt them as their guardians instead. > > But for rulers of the Gulf states - conservative, dynastic monarchies for whom the revolutionary zeal of the Islamic Republic is anathema - a line has been crossed here. > > It is hard to see how they can ever have anything approaching normal relations again with the current Iranian leadership, that is, if it survives this war. Fun fact: Iran has attacked more Arab states in the last 24 hours than Israel has in the last 50 years. Iran has completely burnt any bridges it may have had with the Arab world. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/274 "2026-03-02T00:43:40Z")
Iranians aren’t Arabs. They’re Persians. Their language is different from the Arabs. I think that’s always made Iran somewhat of an outsider in the Middle East. The one uniting factor is the shared hostility towards Israel. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/275 "2026-03-02T00:57:33Z")
> **Off topic Riff on Trump hidden** > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > > [@What\_Exit](#): > > > > > > Fearless leader also mangles language: > > > > > > > Still, Trump warned more attacks were coming. “We are going after the rest — They will soon be **floating at the bottom of the sea** , also!” Trump wrote on Truth Social. > > > > > > My bolding. > > > > Donald is so powerful that at his word, the very laws of physics are repealed!!!1!! > > While they’re floating around down there, they can, like the Orange One himself once wrote after returning from a trip to Britain, have dinner with the Prince of Whales! 😁 > > Truly, America is ruled by a genius and a master of language, even if he does say so himself. So there’s obviously a plan to this bombing madness, we’re just not smart enough to see it! > [@Babale](#): > > Iran has attacked more Arab states in the last 24 hours than Israel has in the last 50 years. Iran has completely burnt any bridges it may have had with the Arab world. Are they attacking “Arab states” or are they attacking US military bases or other American interests in those states? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/276 "2026-03-02T00:58:12Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’m very surprised they didn’t assassinate him thirty to 40 years ago. He had a very protective uncle named Samuel according to some. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/277 "2026-03-02T00:59:37Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I doubt the Prince would survive more than a week in Iran. The Islamists would never allow the Shah’s son to take power. He’d probably get what Maximilian got. > **[Maximilian I of Mexico](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_I_of_Mexico)** > > Maximilian I (Spanish: Fernando Maximiliano José María de Habsburgo-Lorena; German: Ferdinand Maximilian Josef Maria von Habsburg-Lothringen; 6 July 1832 – 19 June 1867) was an Austrian archduke who became emperor of the Second Mexican Empire from 10 April 1864 until his execution by the Mexican Republic on 19 June 1867. > A member of the House of Habsburg-Lorraine, Maximilian was the younger brother of Emperor Franz Joseph I of Austria. Before becoming Emperor of Mexico, he was commander-in-chi... Was Napolean III the Trump of his day? He seemed to be similarly feckless. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/278 "2026-03-02T01:00:26Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Are they attacking “Arab states” or are they attacking US military bases or other American interests in those states? Unless the US has super secret bases on the top floor of a high rise or in the main civilian airports of these countries, then no, they aren’t attacking US bases or “other American interests”, whatever that means, in those countries. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/279 "2026-03-02T01:04:16Z")
It was an honest question to which I don’t know the answer. Why do you think Iran would be interested in indiscriminately attacking its Arab neighbours as a response to American-Israeli aggression? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/280 "2026-03-02T01:04:24Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Iran has attacked more Arab states in the last 24 hours than Israel has in the last 50 years. Iran has completely burnt any bridges it may have had with the Arab world. Yesterday Al Jazeera was saying that most or all of the attacks were on U.S. assets and bases in those countries. This theme [has now largely been dropped](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/3/2/us-israel-attack-iran-live?update=4353493): > [@](#): > > Iran’s retaliatory strikes have hit Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan, Oman, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, with attacks reported on airports, residential buildings and hotels. I do want to acknowledge that the horrifying girls school tragedy reports are, while unproven, all too plausible. [This is from the New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/28/world/middleeast/iran-school-strike-us-israel.html?unlocked_article_code=1.QFA.mnP3.naOqkSDtL9VN&smid=url-share): > [@](#): > > Videos verified by The Times show that the school is adjacent to a naval base belonging to the country’s most powerful military force, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps, or IRGC. Another video verified by The Times on Saturday showed a strike hitting the same IRGC base. This lines up with Trump’s pledge to “[obliterate their Navy](https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/03/peace-through-strength-president-trump-launches-operation-epic-fury-to-crush-iranian-regime-end-nuclear-threat/)”. From French media, updated early Monday morning, Paris time: [Iran school strike claims over 100 dead; US and Israel have not confirmed](https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20260302-iran-school-strike-claims-over-100-dead) > [@](#): > > AFP has geolocated the clip to a building in Minab in Iran’s southern Hormozgan province that appeared to be a school, though it has not been able to independently verify the nature of the site. > > A second video, verified by outlets including the “New York Times”, showed a similar damaged structure from a different angle. . . . > > AFP could not independently verify the date the footage was filmed. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/281 "2026-03-02T01:06:24Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Why do you think Iran would be interested in indiscriminately attacking its Arab neighbours as a response to American-Israeli aggression? To punish them for not doing what they’ve been demanding for years and accepting Iran as the leader of the Gulf. From the article I quoted earlier: > [@Babale](#): > > Iranian leaders have tried, unsuccessfully, to persuade the Arab states in the Gulf to expel the US Navy and adopt them as their guardians instead. > > But for rulers of the Gulf states - conservative, dynastic monarchies for whom the revolutionary zeal of the Islamic Republic is anathema - a line has been crossed here. > > It is hard to see how they can ever have anything approaching normal relations again with the current Iranian leadership, that is, if it survives this war. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=15)