# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\
**Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/322 "2026-03-02T13:58:18Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Neither Israel (which is a sideshow, anyway) nor the US will keep their side of an agreement. Peace treaties are meaningless.

Israel has never fought a country it has diplomatic relations with, and has never broken a peace agreement.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/323 "2026-03-02T14:03:38Z")

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Don’t know if anybody watched Kegsbreath news conference this morning. He basically said that ‘we didn’t start this war, but under the leadership of Trump, we will finish it’, implying that Iran has been at war with the USA for the past 47 years.

[https://www.npr.org/2026/03/02/nx-s1-5732258/us-iran-hegseth-caine](https://www.npr.org/2026/03/02/nx-s1-5732258/us-iran-hegseth-caine)

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/324 "2026-03-02T14:05:42Z")

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> **off-topic post hidden**
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> > [@Alessan](#):
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> > Israel has never fought a country it has diplomatic relations with, and has never broken a peace agreement.
> 
> Tell the Palestinians how trustworthy Israel is.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/325 "2026-03-02T14:08:09Z")

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**Moderating**

And you’re wandering off-topic here. Take it to a thread on the that topic.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/328 "2026-03-02T18:04:40Z")

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So when’s Iran going to release the footage of Trump rapping underage girls? Now seems like the perfect time.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
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Moderating:

> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> So when’s Iran going to release the footage of Trump rapping underage girls? Now seems like the perfect time.

This is entirely off topic and a hijack. Don’t do this.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/330 "2026-03-02T19:44:28Z")

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> **[Live updates: Trump on ‘Operation Epic Fury’; won’t rule out sending U.S....](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/live-blog/live-updates-iran-war-israel-us-hezbollah-lebanon-khamenei-trump-rcna261259)**
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> Follow NBC News' live coverage as the U.S. and Israel attack Iran, Tehran hits back across the Gulf, and Hezbollah strikes from Lebanon, while Iran chooses a new supreme leader after the killing of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Tehran says no to any further talks.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/331 "2026-03-02T20:01:38Z")

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And now

> Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said today that the war in Iran will not be “endless” and that the U.S. goal was not regime change.

For this minute.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
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Qatari jet fighters shot down two Iranian bomber jets that were attempting to bomb targets in Qatar.

[https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/02/world/middleeast/qatar-iran-bombers-shot-down.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/02/world/middleeast/qatar-iran-bombers-shot-down.html)

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/333 "2026-03-02T22:22:41Z")

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Qatar was the main “helper” for Iran when it came to interacting diplomatically with the world (and, among other thing, this was one of the factors that put Qatar into diplomatic hot water some years ago with a bunch of other Arab countries).

To see Iran “repaying” Qatar this way… I do not think that it will do Iran any favors.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2026, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/334 "2026-03-02T23:02:26Z")

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I’m seeing headlines like this at NBC News (sorry, no direct link):

“State Department urges Americans in 14 countries to leave immediately”

Aren’t these mostly countries with closed airports?

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For anyone who’s still unsure whether the clown Pahlavi has any credibility in the planning for a succession regime:

> **[Mohamad Bazzi (@mbazzi.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/mbazzi.bsky.social/post/3mg42c556s22c)**
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> Interviewed on the Patrick Bet-David podcast, popular in the right-wing sphere, Pahlavi admitted that he could only imagine returning to Iran on a part-time basis, as his social life and personal commitments were rooted in the US, where he’s lived...

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He’s sourcing _Jacobin_? Roflmao, I have 0 interest in watching a Patrick Bet-David interview, but I also _certainly_ wouldn’t trust _Jacobin_’s interpretation. Talk about _clowns_!

I’m certainly glad that Pahlavi doesn’t appear to be interested in reestablishing the monarchy, though. He’s fine as a symbol, not no one needs a king. Or a shah.

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Qatari jet fighters shot down two Iranian bomber jets that were attempting to bomb targets in Qatar.

I’ve wondered when the Middle Eastern countries would use their air defenses to defend against Iran’s missiles.

That does add complexity to the skies and the Kuwaiti shooting down 3 F-15 isn’t unexpected.

The US has to quickly add the other air forces into their ID system as friendly.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
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Without asking for classified info or anything like that, isn’t it a bit odd that a Kuwaiti radar couldn’t tell the difference between an F-15 shape and a MiG-23 shape, even with no IFF? Do radars not discriminate with enough detail like that yet?

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Do radars not discriminate with enough detail like that yet?

Cutting edge systems do, but most radar just sees a blob.

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Are you really sure they did not shoot the planes down on purpose? Really?  
They say once is happenstance. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is enemy action. Well they shot down three planes. Three very expensive planes.

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**Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/341 "2026-03-03T01:19:22Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Are you really sure they did not shoot the planes down on purpose? Really?

Given the fog of war, of course I’m not sure. But friendly fire incidents are common.

> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> They say once is happenstance. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is enemy action.

Who says that?

> [@](#):
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> Three very expensive planes.

Yes, extremely expensive when built in the last century.

No matter what the truth is, it was extremely unusual for three American warplanes to be shot down within a short time. This fact doesn’t tell me much more than that.

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