# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\ **Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/602 "2026-03-05T18:58:05Z")
Footage of the first manned air to air kill by an F35: Israeli plane shoots down YAK130 > ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/603 "2026-03-05T19:02:43Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > $1 billion a day is what I read this morning. It dovetails with what Paul Krugman is saying right now in his Substack video: > **[ONE BILLION DOLLARS](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/one-billion-dollars?utm_source=podcast-email&publication_id=277517&post_id=189996925&utm_campaign=email-play-on-substack)** > > Attacking Iran versus defending Ukraine > [@Dinsdale](#): > > Perhaps that is coming out of ICE’s obscene budget. Don’t even dare to dream about that: never going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/604 "2026-03-05T20:08:45Z")
[Trump says he should be able to pick the new Iranian leader.](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/03/05/world/iran-war-israel-trump?unlocked_article_code=1.Q1A.TqwH.1tyz8HFMYEXT&smid=url-share) And he says Khameni’s son is an unacceptable choice. Not sure how this is going to play out but I don’t see any way the senior clerics will be taking Trump seriously on this subject. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/605 "2026-03-05T20:21:32Z")
Can you even paint a silhouette on an F-35, or would that ruin the special stealth coating? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/606 "2026-03-05T20:22:56Z")
As I said, he wants to Venezuela Iran. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/607 "2026-03-05T20:43:00Z")
Detailed summary of actions so far up to day 6 of attack. Far beyond the scope of this thread if interested. > **[U.S. Denies F-15E Strike Eagle Went Down In Iran](https://www.twz.com/news-features/u-s-denies-f-15e-strike-eagle-went-down-in-iran)** > > There are new risks as the U.S. expands its air campaign deeper into Iran, and meanwhile Iran has begun to strike Azerbaijan with drones. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/608 "2026-03-05T20:51:13Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > [Trump says he should be able to pick the new Iranian leader.](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/03/05/world/iran-war-israel-trump?unlocked_article_code=1.Q1A.TqwH.1tyz8HFMYEXT&smid=url-share) And he says Khameni’s son is an unacceptable choice It’s like him and the Iranians are on a competition to see who can pull off the dumber maneuvers. “We are gonna bomb civilian targets in the Gulf States, burning any last shreds of goodwill they still had for us.” “Oh, yeah? Well then, **I** will go ahead and spit in the face of the protestors I’m hoping will eventually finish off the regime.” “Oh, you will? In _that_ case, we will vilify our Azeri population as a fifth column before bombing Azerbaijan.” ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/609 "2026-03-05T21:26:49Z")
Israel was expecting and preparing for 150 Iranian missiles a day; so far we are at about 200 total. (Hebrew article) > **[הפגיעה האנושה: איראן שיגרה עד כה 80% פחות טילים לעומת הצפי בישראל](https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/bk15biwy11l?utm_source=ynet.app.android&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=general_share&utm_term=bk15biwy11l&utm_content=Header)** > > פרסום ראשון: ערב המלחמה ההערכה המודיעינית הייתה שהרפובליקה האיסלאמית תשגר מדי יום כ-150 טילים לשטח ישראל, אבל הכתישה המשותפת של צה"ל וצבא ארה"ב הובילה למספר נמוך באופן דרמטי The latest wave of Iranian missiles appears to have included more cluster warheads. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2026, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/610 "2026-03-05T22:05:15Z")
I’m seeing various reports, [such as this one](https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2026-03-01/bases-damaged-iran-attacks-20916010.html), pointing out that multiple US military bases in the region are taking hits from missiles and drones, with at least one blogger I read (can’t assess credibility) claiming the damage is so extensive it’s destroying billions of dollars’ worth of decades of investment in the facilities. ETA: Another link from CNN: > **[CNN Investigates: How Iran strikes have damaged US military sites | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/03/world/video/us-military-bases-iran-strikes-images-invs)** > > Satellite images and videos show the extent of the damage to US military facilities in the Middle East from Iranian attacks. CNN’s Tamara Qiblawi reports ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/611 "2026-03-06T04:35:54Z")
[Senior cleric in Iran is calling for Trump’s blood.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/senior-iran-cleric-drops-alarming-185354693.html) > [@](#): > > A senior Iranian cleric has delivered a scathing address to the Iranian people, during which he demands the “shedding of Trump’s blood.” > > The threatening statement by Abdollah Javadi Amoli, which aired on Iranian state TV this week, was a unique call for violence by an ayatollah, one of the leading clergy members in Shiite Islam, according to [the Associated Press](https://apnews.com/article/iran-israel-us-march-05-2026-6a76668997a43855cc37eff7f4829615). > > “We are now on the verge of a great test and we must be careful to fully preserve this unity, to fully preserve this alliance,” Amoli said in the speech. > > In addition, he demanded “the shedding of Zionist blood, the shedding of Trump’s blood,” and urged followers to “fight the oppressive America, his blood is on my shoulders.” > > The shocking statement aired hours after Defense Secretary **Pete Hegseth** [gloated](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/watch-iranian-warship-sunk-u-164607123.html) about an American submarine sinking an Iranian warship in the Indian Ocean with a torpedo, which he said was the first such attack since World War II. [Iran’s foreign minister ruled out negotiating with Trump.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/just-iranian-fm-tells-nbc-173026512.html) (The formatting is from the original.) > [@](#): > > Iranian Foreign Minister **Abbas Araghchi** told _NBC Nightly News_ anchor **Tom Llamas** on Thursday in a video interview from Tehran that his country is ready for a U.S. ground invasion and that Iran will not negotiate with President **Donald Trump.** > > “The fact is that we don’t have any positive experience of negotiating with the United States. You know, especially with this [administration](https://www.mediaite.com/tag/donald-trump/). We negotiated twice last year and this year, and then in the middle of negotiations, they attacked us,” Araghchi told Llamas, [adding](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/iran-foreign-minister-interview-rcna261920?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=69a9b7760a22950001b0de47&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter): > > > So we see no reason why we should engage once again with those who have, who are not honest in negotiation, and they don’t and do not enter into negotiation in good faith. > > > > There is no winner in this war. Our win is to be able to resist against, you know, the illegal, you know goals, and this is what we have done so far. So they have failed to achieve their goals, and we have been able to resist against them, to stand against the most powerful army of the world, as they claim, together with, you know, Israelis, who are also claim to have the big army. _Mods: I put these two here because they’re actual consequences of the attacks, not speculative. If they should be in the other thread, please move this post._ ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/612 "2026-03-06T15:33:53Z")
Interesting–from WaPo this morning. I guess this means Donnie & Vlad aren’t going to the Prom together? > # Russia is providing Iran intelligence to target U.S. forces, officials say > > The targeting information has included the locations of American warships and aircraft in the Middle East, the officials said. > > [https://wapo.st/3OUfaJg](https://wapo.st/3OUfaJg) > Russia is providing Iran with targeting information to attack American forces in the Middle East, the first indication that another major U.S. adversary is participating — even indirectly — in the war, according to three officials familiar with the intelligence. > > The assistance, which has not been previously reported, signals that the rapidly expanding conflict now features one of America’s chief nuclear-armed competitors with exquisite intelligence capabilities. > > Since the war began Saturday, Russia has passed Iran the locations of U.S. military assets, including warships and aircraft, said the three officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity. > > … > > The Russian Embassy in Washington did not respond to a request for comment. Moscow has called for an end to the war, which it labeled an “unprovoked act of armed aggression.” > … Makes me wonder if Putin has been waiting for a moment like this. It was just a matter of time before trump topped all his previous stupid blunders on the world stage. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/613 "2026-03-06T16:17:00Z")
Waiting for, and likely enough encouraging. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/614 "2026-03-06T16:35:21Z")
That Iranian school blown up was likely from a US strike: [https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-investigation-points-likely-us-responsibility-iran-school-strike-sources-say-2026-03-06/](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-investigation-points-likely-us-responsibility-iran-school-strike-sources-say-2026-03-06/) Was this worth it? How many more blown-up schools and dead civilians will we have? Whether from carelessness, callousness, incompetence, or malevolence? Whatever the benefits of this war (of which I’m extremely skeptical so far), the costs are, at the very least, several hundred dead civilians and likely much more, in addition to US dead (and treasure expended). ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/615 "2026-03-06T18:02:46Z")
Now Trump is saying that he wants “Unconditional Surrender” from Iran. That doesn’t quite fit with their continuous denials of this being a war does it?. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/616 "2026-03-06T18:17:19Z")
Doesn’t fit with the narrative that the regime change is complete, either. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/617 "2026-03-06T18:17:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Mods: I put these two here because they’re actual consequences of the attacks, not speculative. If they should be in the other thread, please move this post. It’s current news, and the speculation is mostly on the side reporting their intents, you’re good. Thank you for your attention and efforts. And as I mentioned in one of the ATMB threads, a general “thanks” to all trying to keep the associated threads on topic. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/618 "2026-03-06T18:22:48Z")
You don’t understand: if they surrender inconditionally this whole sorry affair willl _ **not** _ become a war. It is a very generous offer he is making there, they should be thankful. Otherwise, should they not surrender inconditionally, it will be an act of aggression on their part, and then he will have to defend the USA because they will have declared war. Then he won’t need Congress for this, and it will all be their fault. The only thing I still don’t understand is _who_ is supposed to surrender. The USA has killed every person who could have claimed the authority to do so and threatens to kill every one who tries to obtain that authority in the future. **Babale** tried to explain it to me, but I obviousy did not get it. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/619 "2026-03-06T18:24:20Z")
My mind cannot begin to probe the shallower fathoms of that profound strategic mind, that stable genius, Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/620 "2026-03-06T19:50:16Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Otherwise, should they not surrender inconditionally, it will be an act of aggression on their part, and then he will have to defend the USA because they will have declared war. If only we had a Department of Defense to respond to this agression… 🤦‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2026, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/621 "2026-03-06T20:53:42Z")
Interesting video I came across of Pahlavi speaking on LGBT rights. I’m starting to see why Trump doesn’t like him, although I wonder if the people who called him a “Clown” Prince think he seems particularly clownish in this video. > **[Christoph Rehage on Instagram: "Guys, if you're wondering why I think...](https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVedJ8YjVpl/)** > > 5,023 likes, 279 comments - christophrehage on March 4, 2026: "Guys, if you're wondering why I think @officialrezapahlavi is the person to support right now, it's because so many Iranians inside and outside have already decided to support him, and... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=32)