# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\
**Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2026, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1353 "2026-04-16T12:09:02Z")

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[The Navy admits a $240,000,000 drone used in the war has gone missing.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/navy-admits-240m-drone-lost-173229573.html)

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> The U.S. Navy [admitted that it lost](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/megyn-kelly-questions-full-story-165004162.html) a $240 million spy drone during fighting in Iran, according to a new report.
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> It’s the first time an MQ-4C Triton unmanned aerial vehicle is[known](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pentagon-pete-accused-lying-trump-205011720.html) to have been lost since they were introduced into service in 2018. The drone was listed in a new naval report on aviation “mishaps” as having “crashed” on April 9, with the location of the accident withheld.
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> The crash marks just the latest entry on the ever-growing tab for [President Trump’s war in Iran](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-melts-down-rapid-fire-045455651.html), which is thought to already stand in the tens of billions before any impact on the U.S. economy is considered.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2026, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1354 "2026-04-16T13:02:15Z")

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Very informative article.

NATO can’t allow Iran to profit from ships paying tolls. That would be very difficult to stop once its become routine and established.

I feel strongly that the Strait of Hormuz has to remain a free passageway for the World’s shipping.

> **[What mines has Iran laid in the strait of Hormuz and how can the US remove them?](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/16/strait-of-hormuz-mines-iran-us)**
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> Trump plans to start anti-mine operations as part of a wider attempt to open the strait, but the clearance is laborious and dangerous

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> The best, and least risky, option for the US would be to use uncrewed marine mine-hunting vehicles. Those include the Knifefish undersea mine hunter, a submersible device, and the MCM anti-mine vessel, which looks like a speed boat.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1355 "2026-04-17T00:26:00Z")

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The US Navy blockade is working well on the US Navy.

> **[Cookies, deodorant, socks. Iran war puts military packages in limbo](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/04/16/iran-war-mail-packages-middle-east/89609308007/)**
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> Thousands of boxes sent to service members in Middle East are stuck in limbo. The Postal Service has indefinitely suspended delivery amid Iran war.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1356 "2026-04-17T10:06:59Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> The best, and least risky, option for the US would be to use uncrewed marine mine-hunting vehicles.

On the other hand, the best option for the US would be to have the Trump family working the oars of a rowing shell with strong magnets mounted on the bow and surging around the Strait with Bibi as hortator demanding “RAMMING SPEED!”

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1357 "2026-04-17T10:46:56Z")

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Let’s not let those pesky satellite pictures show what we really have bombed, so we can claim that a girl’s school is a military centre and that civilian neighborhoods are legitimate targets. It’s just for **two weeks**. Aw, what am I saying? Make it indefinite:

> **[Iran-Krieg: USA stoppen Satellitenbilder für Journalisten und Militärs](https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/medien-und-film/medienpolitik/iran-krieg-usa-stoppen-satellitenbilder-fuer-journalisten-und-militaers-accg-200737693.html)**
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> Militärs wie Journalisten nutzen Satellitenbilder von Planet Labs. Nun werden Aufnahmen aus dem Irankrieg auf Druck der US-Regierung zurückgehalten – weil ihr die Bilder der zerbombten Mädchenschule in Minab missfielen.

> But just a few days after the findings on Minab were published, Planet Labs announced a delay in the use of its images from the war zone, initially 96 hours, then two weeks. On 5 April, a few days before Donald Trump’s threat to destroy an “entire civilisation”, Planet Labs and another satellite imagery company called Vantor stated that, until further notice, no further image data from the crisis zones would be made available.  
> They were thus “voluntarily” complying with a request from the US government to “withhold imagery in the designated area of interest”, as stated in an email from Planet Labs to its customers. The “area of interest” includes Israel, Gaza and Lebanon, in addition to the Gulf region. The “request” carries weight: Planet Labs and Vantor work with US government institutions, including the Navy and the Army. And it is no secret that Donald Trump ensures those who refuse his “requests” face economic consequences.  
> Translated with DeepL(dot)com (free version)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1358 "2026-04-17T11:31:46Z")

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[Sir Keir Starmer says no way, José.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/donald-trump-receives-message-british-075220332.html)

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> Speaking during Prime Minister’s Questions, Sir Keir Starmer stated, “I’m not going to change my mind, I’m not going to yield, it is not in our national interest to join this war and we will not do so.” His remarks came directly after Donald Trump used an interview to claim that when America sought British assistance, “they were not there.”
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> The prime minister acknowledged sustained pressure from Washington since the U.S.-Israel war on Iran began in late February. “My position on Iran has been clear from the start, we’re not going to get dragged into this war,” Starmer said. He added, “That pressure included what happened last night,” referencing Trump’s pointed media comments (via [BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxdd7ddzgdo)).
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> Meanwhile, Trump had suggested economic consequences could follow Britain’s military non-participation. Referring to the tariff agreement struck last May, the POTUS warned on [Sky News](https://news.sky.com/story/uk-cant-succeed-says-trump-read-full-transcript-of-his-sky-news-interview-13531950), it “can always be changed.” When questioned about the relationship, Trump responded dismissively, “With who?” The president elaborated that relations had “been better, but it’s sad.”

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1359 "2026-04-17T14:38:04Z")

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> **[Iran declares Strait of Hormuz open to shipping; Trump says U.S. blockade...](https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/17/iran-war-hormuz-strait-israel-lebanon-ceasefire.html)**
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> The Strait of Hormuz has remained almost completely closed as the U.S. and Iran have disputed the terms of their ceasefire agreement.

Congratulations to Trump and Hegseth for handing over control of a very significant portion of global trade to Iran! And Iran didn’t even have to sink any tankers. Just issue vague threats and fly drones, and maritime insurance rates handle the rest!

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1360 "2026-04-17T19:29:45Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Congratulations to Trump and Hegseth for handing over control of a very significant portion of global trade to Iran!

This is a massive for Iran as it shows they can get whatever they want, even from Israel by blockading the strait.

This went down like this…

- Iran: No ceasefire until there is one in Lebanon. Strait stays closed while Israel is attacking Lebanon.
- Trump: toys out the pram, all caps truth social posts, empty threats to blockade the strait
- Iran: strait stays closed
- Trump: ok then we’ll pressure Israel into a ceasefire
- Israel: ok here’s a ceasefire in Lebanon
- Iran: looks legit. Straits open now. Pleasure doing business with you

This is a huge win for Iran

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1361 "2026-04-17T19:37:08Z")

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Yep, they have now demonstrated that they have a weapon they can use, if they feel forced to, to choke the world’s economy.

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1362 "2026-04-17T21:18:28Z")

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The blockade of Iranian ports didn’t contribute? The news was saying it could lead to permanent damage to Iran’s oil production if they had to shutdown wells as a result.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1363 "2026-04-17T21:19:58Z")

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Iran says the deal Trump is hyping up once again does not exist.

> **[Iran Calls BS After Trump Frantically Hypes Nonexistent Deal](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-claims-iran-has-agreed-to-everything-ahead-of-market-closure/)**
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> The president claimed total victory again on Friday. Iran says an agreement has not been reached.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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This certainly is a strange, nineteen eighty four media blackout war. In order to know what’s actually happening, you have to take the word of whomever is tweeting, making Lego videos, or news conferencing their particular take.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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[https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-recover-uranium-iran-trump-tells-reuters-2026-04-17/](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-recover-uranium-iran-trump-tells-reuters-2026-04-17/)

> “We’re going to get it together. We’re ‌going to go in with Iran, at a nice leisurely pace, and go down and start excavating with big machinery… We’ll bring it back to the United States,” Trump said during a phone interview.

In two weeks, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
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> [@Smapti](#):
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> > We’ll bring it back to the United States

Back? You let the Iranians steal it in the first place, and now you are getting it _ **back** _? Aha. Cool.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> In two weeks, I’m sure.

Another fortnight! 🎉

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1367 "2026-04-17T22:32:33Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Iran says the deal Trump is hyping up once again does not exist.

This is totally a Trump strategy:

Have negotiations.  
Ignore what the other party wants  
Announce publicly that the other party has caved and has given him everything.  
Dare the other party into calling him a liar/threaten to sue (or drop bombs)

This may work with business deals with small suppliers. It does not work with other countries.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1368 "2026-04-18T00:57:49Z")

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…and Iran is closing the strait again.

[https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5837279-iran-us-blockade-strait/](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5837279-iran-us-blockade-strait/)

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1369 "2026-04-18T02:44:51Z")

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Is Iran just really trying to turn the oil prices against Trump so his insider trading scam fails? I wonder.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
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Insider trader scam sounds like a subject for a Trump oriented thread and not this, the bombing thread.

**Moderating:**

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Yikes! Apologies. 😞 My bad.

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> **[Iran fully closes Strait of Hormuz over US blockade and fires on ships](https://apnews.com/article/us-iran-war-israel-hormuz-18-april-2026-ab475cb979825b956a10d60103026b37)**
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> Iran now says the Strait of Hormuz is fully closed until the end of the U.S. blockade on Iranian ports.

The article mentions that Iran has fired on some ships.

Here is a quote from the AP article:

_Revolutionary Guard gunboats opened fire on a tanker and an unknown projectile hit a container vessel, damaging some containers, the British military’s United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations center said. India’s foreign ministry said it summoned Iran’s ambassador over the “serious incident” of firing on two India-flagged merchant ships, especially after Iran earlier let several India-bound ships through._

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