# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\ **Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2026, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1493 "2026-05-31T23:34:38Z")
Well 45/47 was always seeking on regime change, and seems to have a preference dealing with junta. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2026, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1494 "2026-06-01T00:53:01Z")
He tried that back on January 6, 2021 and it didn’t work. Why would it be any different this time? ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2026, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1495 "2026-06-01T02:24:09Z")
Because he’s now the regime and both he and his acolytes seem to be doing rather nicely from the arrangements. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2026, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1496 "2026-06-01T04:27:38Z")
“We’ve completely destroyed their military” says he. [But now this is his line.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/weeks-boasting-destroyed-iran-armed-151601591.html) > [@](#): > > Donald Trump has now said that Iran’s military was largely untouched [by U.S. strikes over the past three months,](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-us-war-live-trump-peace-deal-strait-of-hormuz-b2986621.html)contradicting countless statements he has made and continues to make about the scale of the U.S.’s successes in the ongoing war. > > The president spoke in an interview that aired Saturday with his daughter-in-law Lara Trump on Fox News. As the war in Iran now runs past the three-month mark, the U.S. remains mired in a stalemate with Iran under the shadow of a shaky ceasefire that Trump is now considering an offer [to extend for another 60 days.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/peace-deal-between-iran-us-103449974.html) > > A war that the president and his team have long insisted would be over in “days” or even just a few weeks is now at a flashpoint with the U.S. having proven largely unable to forcibly open the Strait of Hormuz, a key waterway for global energy shipping traffic. Negotiations continue, but details of a pending agreement to extend the ceasefire indicate that the sides are still far apart on the eventual question of Iran’s nuclear program, including its future enrichment capabilities. > > On Saturday Trump gave another description of the U.S. operation, and seemed to break from his past claims of having obliterated Iran’s military. > > After saying Iran’s navy and air force were “totally gone”, the president then commented on Iran’s “military”, telling Lara Trump: “Their military, we’ve sort of left it alone, because we think that their military is somewhat, somewhat moderate…We’ve actually left their military alone. People would be surprised to hear that." Actually, I’m not surprised to hear of yet another of his vanity ventures is a failure. What appalls me is that people are dying becuase of them. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2026, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1497 "2026-06-01T06:28:01Z")
So would it be fair to say the US has been more successful with strikes against Iranian school children than against Iranian military targets? Of course, this is a media flooding ploy verging on social media genius for manipulating the prevailing US zeitgeist. His MAGA base will maintain their believe that the Iranian military capability is largely destroyed. Any of MAGA’s opposition who quote this retraction/recantation will be dismissed as fabricators. Those inside the tent peeing out who believe explicitly whatever he said last will be in remain in awe of his ability at nth dimensional chess. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2026, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1498 "2026-06-01T10:25:23Z")
So much for the 60-day ceasefire: > **[US bombs Iranian military sites and Kuwait is hit by drone and missile fire](https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-irael-war-kuwait-strikes-88daa9f90b48baaa7beb18e35515c59d)** > > The United States says it has bombed radar and drone sites in Iran after Tehran shot down an American drone over the weekend. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2026, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1499 "2026-06-01T10:38:45Z")
The so-called ceasefire has been violated since day zero. Is anything supposed to have changed? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2026, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1500 "2026-06-01T19:50:49Z")
And now talks are either “suspended” (Iran) or “Continuing at a rapid pace” (Trump) I think we know who to believe. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2026, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1501 "2026-06-01T20:55:02Z")
Well if the talks were suspended on a rope from some attachment, were given a push and now were accelerating downwards, both could be right. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2026, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1502 "2026-06-01T21:47:19Z")
Like a big pendulum, counting down…something. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2026, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1503 "2026-06-01T23:18:33Z")
… or a noose. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1504 "2026-06-04T17:59:19Z")
Does anybody know Guy Billout? He drew this in 2007: Guy Billout, Plan for Iran - The New Yorker Magazine, 2007 [![](https://cdn.artcld.com/img/w_1920,c_fit/efywmy2vp1yct5s2vv6p.png) ](https://cdn.artcld.com/img/w_1920,c_fit/efywmy2vp1yct5s2vv6p.png) If I was in New York I’d go to this **[gallery](https://philippelabaune.com/)** that is exhibiting his work, but as it is, I can’t even find a way to buy the catalogue. Anyway: whatever President Ineptstein has done with Iran, it was a long time coming. Of course the most incompetent idiot ends up making the worst mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1505 "2026-06-04T18:17:35Z")
I remember McCain singing “Bomb Iran” to the tune of “Barbara Ann”. I wonder if this would’ve happened in ~2010 if McCain won the 2008 elections? I want to believe Trump is the first president idiotic enough to do it but the evidence is against it… ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1506 "2026-06-04T18:36:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > And now talks are either “suspended” (Iran) > or > “Continuing at a rapid pace” (Trump) Trump probably thinks his lie is true, because he has a habit of holding “negotiations” that forget to include key players in the conflict. Remember in his first term, when they “negotiated a solution to the Mideast”, where they didn’t invite any Palestinians to the talks? “I talked to Israel, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, and we all agreed that Iran is a little piss-baby who can’t fight and shouldn’t get a nuke.” ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1507 "2026-06-04T18:40:41Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > I remember McCain singing “Bomb Iran” to the tune of “Barbara Ann”. To be fair, all he actually sang was “Bomb, bomb, bomb…” before he broke down laughing and said “anyway…” [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U7s5pT3Rris/hqdefault.jpg "McCain Sings "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7s5pT3Rris) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1508 "2026-06-07T05:50:02Z")
[US shoots down “threatening” drones; Iran responds with further attacks.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/us-iran-trade-strikes-despite-050227377.html) > [@](#): > > The United States said it shot down a pair of Iranian drones threatening the Strait of Hormuz, the latest escalation of violence as the war crept into its 100th day on Sunday with no end in sight. > > Weeks of indirect talks marked by tit-for-tat threats and sporadic exchanges of fire have failed to secure a deal to end the conflict or reopen the vital waterway, a chokepoint for Gulf oil and gas shipments. > > US Central Command (CENTCOM) said it destroyed two Iranian drones “that threatened international maritime traffic in the Strait of Hormuz”, hours after announcing it struck four other drones and coastal surveillance radar sites. > > Tehran responded with a salvo of missiles at US allies Bahrain and Kuwait on Saturday, drawing a furious response from the Gulf monarchies and piling pressure on a shaky ceasefire agreed on April 8. > > CENTCOM said Iran launched seven ballistic missiles towards Bahrain and Kuwait, with six intercepted and one falling short. Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said they had targeted “enemy bases in the area” with missiles. > > Bahrain, which hosts the headquarters of the US Fifth Fleet, denounced the latest attacks as “blatant aggression”, while Kuwait said they “represent a dangerous escalation”. > > In Bahrain’s capital Manama, an AFP journalist heard three explosions as air raid sirens sounded. > > In Kuwait, another AFP journalist heard repeated blasts near the international airport, where a Wednesday strike blamed on Iran killed one person. This is Day 100 of the Vanity War. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1509 "2026-06-07T19:42:51Z")
> **[Fact-checking Trump’s interview with NBC News’ ‘Meet the Press’](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fact-checking-trump-interview-meet-press-june-2026-rcna348518)** > > Digging into some of the president’s claims on the Iran war, the Jan. 6 riots, California’s primary elections and more. > Trump defended his first-term decision to terminate the Iran nuclear deal President Barack Obama had negotiated and his second-term decision to initially strike Iran in June 2025. > > “They were very close to having a nuclear weapon. I terminated the deal. Then I sent the B-2 bombers in about nine, 10 months ago. And they obliterated, totally obliterated, the site. And I saved it,” Trump said. “We had a choice. We could let them have a nuclear weapon, or we could go along and have some beautiful days. But they would have, you know, it’s a judgment. They would’ve used a nuclear weapon.” > > Later in the interview, Trump reiterated: “If I didn’t go in there with the B-2 bombers, they would right now have a nuclear weapon, and it could be that half of the world would be eradicated already.” > > Trump’s statements are not in line with what then-Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard [told lawmakers in March 2025](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/us-intelligence-assessment-irans-nuclear-program-remains-unchanged-rcna213879), months before the initial U.S. strikes on Iran. At the time, Gabbard testified that U.S. spy agencies had assessed that Iran had not decided whether to build nuclear weapons, but that the country had stockpiles of enriched uranium beyond what is required for civilian purposes. NBC News [reported in June 2025](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/us-intelligence-assessment-irans-nuclear-program-remains-unchanged-rcna213879) that the U.S. assessment of Iran’s nuclear program had not changed since March…d… > Trump also said during the interview that major arms of the Iranian military were “gone” as a result of the current war. > > “Their navy is gone. Their air force is gone. Their anti-aircraft is gone,” Trump said. > > He said at another point in the interview: “In three months, I’ve demolished the navy, the air force, anti-aircraft. They have no radar. They have nothing.” > > This is exaggerated. [NBC News has reported](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/remaining-military-targets-iran-are-challenging-complicated-hit-source-rcna346204) that half of the country’s unconventional navy remains intact after weeks of bombing. The unconventional navy includes small “fast boats” typically used by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or IRGC, Tehran’s hard-line military force. Those forces are key to Iran’s ability to influence international shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, and because of the nature of that navy, it has been harder for the U.S. to identify and target those forces. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1510 "2026-06-08T04:47:59Z")
Israel and Iran (and Houthi) are exchanging missiles/bombs currently. Meanwhile Trump is raving about, “I call all the shots.” > **[Iran Launches Ballistic Missile Attacks On Israel (Updated)](https://www.twz.com/news-features/iran-launches-ballistic-missile-attacks-on-israel)** > > The possibility of open conflict once again between Iran and Israel rose after Tehran struck in response to the IDF bombing Beirut on Sunday, ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1511 "2026-06-08T18:41:28Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Israel and Iran (and Houthi) are exchanging missiles/bombs currently. Meanwhile Trump is raving about, “I call all the shots.” [https://www.axios.com/2026/06/08/iran-israel-war-trump-stop-shooting](https://www.axios.com/2026/06/08/iran-israel-war-trump-stop-shooting) > President Trump called on Israel and [Iran](https://www.axios.com/world/iran) to “immediately stop shooting” in a post on Truth Social on Monday. > > **Why it matters:** The war between Israel and Iran resumed on Sunday after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu defied [Trump’s request](https://www.axios.com/2026/06/07/trump-netanyahu-israel-iran-strikes-call) to stand down. [Israel struck Tehran](https://www.axios.com/2026/06/08/israel-strikes-iran-military-targets-after-iranian-missile-attack) and other cities after Iran launched missiles toward Israel. > > - The exchanges on Sunday night and Monday morning are the most significant escalation since the April 8 ceasefire. They are threatening to unravel the negotiations between the [Trump](https://www.axios.com/politics-policy/donald-trump) administration and Iran and draw the U.S. back into the war. > > **The latest:** Trump called Netanyahu again on Monday morning and asked him to stop the strikes in Iran, an Israeli source said. Lets see how this comes out. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1512 "2026-06-08T20:37:59Z")
I am getting the impression that President Ineptstein does not understand why Netanyahu does not follow his orders just like he follows Putin’s orders. It makes no sense to him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=74) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=76)