# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads}

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\
**Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1513 "2026-06-08T22:41:13Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> They are threatening to unravel the negotiations between the [Trump](https://www.axios.com/politics-policy/donald-trump) administration and Iran

How do you “unravel” something that’s still just a pile of yarn?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1514 "2026-06-08T22:47:13Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> How do you “unravel” something that’s still just a pile of yarn?

Maybe ask Barak Ravid at Axios?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1515 "2026-06-09T00:48:17Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Israel and Iran (and Houthi) are exchanging missiles/bombs currently. Meanwhile Trump is raving about, “I call all the shots.”

I’m happy as a lark he said that. When he goes on trial for war crimes, he has no plausible denial now.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1516 "2026-06-09T10:02:37Z")

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“I was just joking” 🤷

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1517 "2026-06-09T16:13:03Z")

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An American helicopter went down and two pilots had to be rescued after being in the water for a few hours. It’s not clear why it went down.

> **[U.S. military helicopter goes down near Strait of Hormuz, two crew members...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pilots-fine-us-military-helicopter-goes-down-strait-hormuz-rcna349137)**
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> The soldiers were rescued by an unmanned boat — a first for the U.S. military, a spokesperson said.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1518 "2026-06-09T17:08:54Z")

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I guess once rescued, it became a manned boat​😁🙄

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1519 "2026-06-09T18:21:09Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> It’s not clear why it went down.

It depends on whether you believe what President Ineptstein posts:

> **[Trump blames Iran for downing of army helicopter, and says US must respond](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/09/trump-blames-iran-for-downing-of-army-helicopter-and-says-us-must-respond)**
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> US president says crew members are ‘safe and uninjured’ after attack near strait of Hormuz early on Tuesday

> “I have just been informed by our Great Military that last night the Iranians shot down one of our highly sophisticated Apache Helicopters while patrolling over the [Strait of Hormuz](https://www.theguardian.com/world/strait-of-hormuz),” the US president wrote. “There were two pilots involved, both are safe and uninjured. Nevertheless, the United States must, of necessity, respond to the attack.”

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1520 "2026-06-09T18:38:09Z")

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So Trump states that Iranians were patrolling over the straight.

He throws the best cease fires.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1521 "2026-06-09T19:31:45Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> So Trump states that Iranians were patrolling over the straight.

Strait.

And he has confirmed that Iran’s military capabilities have not been destroyed.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1522 "2026-06-09T19:34:41Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> And he has confirmed that Iran’s military capabilities have not been destroyed.

He’s a genius at this, like at so many other things…

How can the world be at the mercy of such a blathering imbecile? I swear it would be easier to digest if the men destroying the world were evil geniuses, at least we could say “we were defeated by the best”, but having our advanced technological civilization brought to ruin by _these guys_? PAH.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1523 "2026-06-09T19:42:08Z")

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Moriarty, thanks for pointing out my spelling, it takes some of the punch out of my attempt to ridicule Trump’s grammar.

I’m pretty sure he was trying to say that we were the ones patrolling. But he could not. He was not able, or up to the challenge.

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1524 "2026-06-09T20:05:31Z")

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I don’t know much about Congress so wondered if their rebuke yesterday of aggression towards Iran has any teeth. I can’t think offhand of any further constitutional action from Congress that would influence Trump but per

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1525 "2026-06-09T20:58:07Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> …but having our advanced technological civilization brought to ruin by _these guys_? PAH.

It’s not our advanced technological civilization that they’re ruining, it’s our sound-bite, celebrity-obsessed, fake-news, politically-polarized society where they found a loophole to exploit.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1526 "2026-06-09T22:10:23Z")

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But through that loophole they are destroying civilization.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1527 "2026-06-09T22:17:16Z")

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> **[Analysis: How many times has Trump claimed an Iran deal is around the corner?...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/politics/times-trump-iran-deal-close)**
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> It’s been more than two months since President Donald Trump announced a ceasefire with Iran, saying at the time that the two sides were close to a deal.

Trump has claimed 38 times that a deal with Iran was around the corner. I’m still amazed that there are people I thought had at least a shred of intelligence that trusted this war in the hands of Trump and Hegseth.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1528 "2026-06-09T23:05:43Z")

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When Trump bluffs that something is on the way, astonishing numbers of Americans will continue in perpetuity to fall for it every single time.

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**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1529 "2026-06-09T23:23:46Z")

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Astonishing numbers of hedge fund managers.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1530 "2026-06-10T00:10:50Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Trump has claimed 38 times that a deal with Iran was around the corner.

As addled as his brain seems to be most of the time, I’m not surprised he’s not allowed to cross the street. Thus everything is “around the corner”.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1531 "2026-06-10T00:27:57Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Thus everything is “around the corner”.

He’s around the bend for sure, at least.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1532 "2026-06-10T00:51:08Z")

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Who’da guessed that all the street intersections in Iran are roundabouts?

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