# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\
**Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1533 "2026-06-10T01:09:30Z")

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And now we’re back to him painting himself into a corner in the Oval Office.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1534 "2026-06-10T01:12:10Z")

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‘Who new germomatree were this hard?’ ~ MAGA

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1535 "2026-06-10T01:17:27Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> But through that loophole they are destroying civilization.

Huh? What does that have to do with this thread?

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Trump has claimed 38 times that a deal with Iran was around the corner.

trump lies, Iran lies. Who is the bigger liar?

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1536 "2026-06-10T04:29:03Z")

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Sounds like the “ceasefire” might be postponed a couple of weeks. I’m sure an end to this war is coming soon!

[https://www.npr.org/2026/06/09/nx-s1-5851845/trump-confirms-iran-shot-down-helicopter-says-u-s-must-respond](https://www.npr.org/2026/06/09/nx-s1-5851845/trump-confirms-iran-shot-down-helicopter-says-u-s-must-respond)

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1537 "2026-06-10T08:12:44Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> trump lies, Iran lies. Who is the bigger liar?

Trump. Trump is the bigger liar. That’s a very easy question.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1538 "2026-06-10T08:58:24Z")

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Really. That one’s a softball.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1539 "2026-06-10T09:42:57Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> trump lies, Iran lies. Who is the bigger liar?

trump, hands down. Every time he opens his mouth, every time he posts something. He lies by default, he lies by deed and by omission. I am still waiting for a corageous journalist to ask him what time it is to see what time he pulls out of his ass then. Sure not the real time.  
Yes, Iran lies too. But they are not in the same league. Not even close.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1540 "2026-06-10T13:25:46Z")

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Iran lies fall in the upper bound of normal operational parameters for nation-states, Trumps… are bigger by several orders of magnitude.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1541 "2026-06-10T13:46:53Z")

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**Moderating** :

OK, I let this digression go far enough.

## How much Trump or Iran lies doesn’t really belong in this thread. No more on it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1542 "2026-06-11T01:06:33Z")

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Have you ever heard this one? “Quitting smoking is easy; I do it every night.” [That’s were we are now with the cease fires.](https://www.aol.com/articles/iranian-fires-missiles-air-hosting-032924000.html)

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> DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Bahrain sounded its missile alert sirens early Thursday morning after Iran threatened to retaliate over a new round of U.S. airstrikes targeting the Islamic Republic.
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> Bahrain, the small island kingdom in the Persian Gulf off Saudi Arabia, urged the public to seek shelter.
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> Iran’s paramilitary Revolutionary Guard had threatened to strike Bahrain over the attacks.
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> The U.S. Central Command said in a social media post that the military was striking targets in Iran “in response to Iran’s unwarranted and continued aggression.” The second day of American strikes comes hours after Bahrain, Kuwait and Jordan — all of which host U.S. troops — came under Iranian fire.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1543 "2026-06-11T14:25:10Z")

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Glad to see Trump say the war is finally over.  
Or no - wait.

> **[US bombs Iran’s water facilities: Why that’s so significant](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/us-bombs-iran-water-facilities-132727966.html)**
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> The US struck several sites in Iran, saying it retaliated against the downing of a US helicopter in the Strait of Hormuz

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> The United States and Iran engaged in some of the most intense fighting overnight (Tue.) since all-out hostilities in the ongoing US‑Israeli war on Iran were halted with a Pakistan‑mediated temporary ceasefire on April 8.

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> The US military said it targeted communications and radar facilities. Iranian officials, however, said civilian infrastructure was also damaged, including two water reservoirs.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1544 "2026-06-11T14:46:17Z")

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Trump is back on his “we should invade Kharg island” obsession…

> **[Trump threatens to strike Iran ‘very hard, tonight’ and to take Kharg Island](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/11/trump-seize-control-iran-oil-gas-ceasefire)**
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> US president warns of further military action as both sides accuse each other of breaching temporary ceasefire

Probably will TACO it, but you never know ☹

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1545 "2026-06-11T15:11:29Z")

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Let’s let Trump make strategic decisions regarding an American war in the Middle East! What could go wrong?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1546 "2026-06-11T15:16:36Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > Steal the oil
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> All the many many times the USA has been accused of stealing oil-“no blood for oil”- are there any recent examples where it really happened? The USA has our own oil, we dont need to steal it.

Now we have Trump bragging that **The US will take “total control” of Iranian oil production** I guess he did not technically use the exact word “steal” but close enough in my opinion.

[Iran war: Trump vows to seize Iranian oil facilities](https://www.dw.com/en/iran-war-trump-vows-to-seize-iranian-oil-facilities/live-77498305)

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1547 "2026-06-11T18:03:01Z")

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And now this morning’s plan to attack Iran has been cancelled.

> **[Trump cancels Iran strikes scheduled for Thursday evening](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2026/06/11/trump-iran-strikes-deal.html)**
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> Hours earlier, Trump warned that the U.S. would attack Iran "VERY HARD TONIGHT," and soon take over Iran's oil infrastructure assets, including Kharg Island.

good news! Apparently we are _close_ to a resolution!

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> Based on the fact that discussions with the Islamic Republic of Iran have been brought to the highest level of Iranian leadership and approved, I have, as President of the United States of America, cancelled the scheduled strikes and bombings against Iran this evening. Discussions and final points have been, in both concept and great detail, approved by all parties involved…

> [@griffin1977](#):
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> Probably will TACO it, but you never know ☹

He lasted less than three hours!

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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Why, oh why, do I suspect that discussions and final points have not, in fact, been approved by all parties?

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2026, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1549 "2026-06-14T19:59:59Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Why, oh why, do I suspect that discussions and final points have not, in fact, been approved by all parties

By god! You’re a genius!

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> According to Iran’s Fars news agency, which cited an informed source, Tehran was still conducting reviews of the political, legal and technical aspects of the agreement, with discussions still ongoing by experts and decision-makers.

> **[Despite Trump pronouncement, Iran signals no final decision made on deal](https://www.timesofisrael.com/despite-trump-pronouncement-iran-signals-no-final-decision-made-on-deal/)**
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> Qataris said visiting Tehran to finalize agreement; Iran official: Draft includes open Hormuz, US sanctions waivers, Tehran commitment to not pursue nukes, future uranium dilution

I realize that this story could be from anytime these past few months, but this is from this afternoon.

> **[Middle East crisis live: Iran warns of ‘imminent’ response to Israeli strike...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/jun/14/iran-us-middle-east-crisis-donald-trump-peace-deal-strait-hormuz-open-pakistan-latest-news-updates)**
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> Iran’s highest national security body appears unswayed by US president’s call for restraint; Trump says Israel should not have attacked Beirut

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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Trump announced that we’re really really pinky swear about to cut a deal, and Netanyahu says “Up yours, Trump, I’m attacking Beirut some more.”

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1551 "2026-06-14T20:51:40Z")

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Netanyahu also: “Oh, yeah, happy birthday! BFF!”

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1552 "2026-06-16T18:19:03Z")

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> **[The Trump Administration Thinks We’re Imbeciles | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-trump-administration-thinks-were-imbeciles/)**
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> Just a few of the ways the Trump-Iran MOU appears to be a disaster — starting with the administration’s refusal to publish it.

> Let’s take it down to the simple basics. Trump’s agreement with Iran is not an agreement, it’s a memorandum of understanding (MOU), reportedly stating that the parties will talk about making an agreement, for infinitely extendable 60-day limits. That is, other than the billions to which the Trump administration has agreed to give the implacably anti-American jihadist regime, the MOU is a nothing that Neville Trump is peddling as peace in our time.
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> But to the extent the MOU is something, it is something very bad because if it were something good, we’d be reading it, not being spun about it.

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