# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\ **Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 78
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1553 "2026-06-16T18:45:31Z")
From Josh Marshall about the mysterious end of war deal that appears to be about to be signed: > The best way to see this is that none of the further negotiation parts of this deal are going to happen. Those provide each side, but especially the U.S. with a figleaf to sell their respective publics. This is really just an agreement to stop. The U.S. will have achieved none of its strategic objectives but will have done significant damage to Iran’s military and economy. Iran meanwhile has suffered a huge amount of economic damage — destroyed factories, destroyed supply chains, etc. But they survived and they’ve demonstrated that they can shut off the Strait of Hormuz at any time they choose. That’s a deterrent far greater than a few nuclear weapons. Gift link: [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/first-responses-to-trumps-hormuz-humiliation/sharetoken/67cac62c-19c1-4d50-89b5-a5a30f5e45be](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/first-responses-to-trumps-hormuz-humiliation/sharetoken/67cac62c-19c1-4d50-89b5-a5a30f5e45be) Iran won this war. We lost. Iran now knows they don’t even need a nuclear deterrent - they have the Strait of Hormuz, which can be far more damaging to their enemies than even a few nukes. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1554 "2026-06-16T21:08:08Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > [Trump-Iran MOU: The Trump Administration Thinks We’re Imbeciles | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-trump-administration-thinks-were-imbeciles/) You don’t say national review! I think events have more than proved that not only does he think about his conservative base but he’s actually correct ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1555 "2026-06-16T21:44:28Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > > [@DrDeth](#): > > > > [Trump-Iran MOU: The Trump Administration Thinks We’re Imbeciles | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-trump-administration-thinks-were-imbeciles/) > > You don’t say national review! I think events have more than proved that not only does he think about his conservative base but he’s actually correct Very weak sauce from the rag which had been pumping up the sonofabitch for most of the last 10 years. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1556 "2026-06-17T15:37:55Z")
Inconceivable! > 1. Donald Trump has warned that the Iran deal - set to be formally signed on Friday in Switzerland - is “not final” 2. He says the US could resume attacks if the agreement doesn’t work out - “If they don’t behave, we’ll go right back to dropping bombs right smack in the middle of their head, OK?” > Israel launches fresh strikes on Lebanon despite Trump criticism ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1557 "2026-06-17T18:49:08Z")
So we’re going to start bombing Israel? ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1558 "2026-06-17T18:54:08Z")
We would never conduct negotiations with Iran while plotting and in fact bombing them. That would be despicable, underhanded, undiplomatic… Wait, didn’t the US just do that a few months ago? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1559 "2026-06-20T16:29:46Z")
Iran says they closed the Strait again. [https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/06/20/world/iran-trump-israel-lebanon?smid=bs-share](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/06/20/world/iran-trump-israel-lebanon?smid=bs-share) That was fast! ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1560 "2026-06-20T16:48:01Z")
Well I guess it’s a good thing the world isn’t about four or so weeks away from running out of oil reserves. [https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5928618-iran-deal-oil-reserves-g7/](https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5928618-iran-deal-oil-reserves-g7/) Oops! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1561 "2026-06-20T17:38:27Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Well I guess it’s a good thing the world isn’t about four or so weeks away from running out of oil reserves. > President Trump said Wednesday that oil reserves could have run out in four weeks if the Strait of Hormuz were not opened. I have doubts. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1562 "2026-06-20T22:29:08Z")
As in you don’t believe Trump? Generally, me neither but rather than this being one of Trump’s “make my own reality” moments, this feels more like something he wasn’t supposed to say out loud which is why he couldn’t resist saying it. In any case, we already know oil reserves aren’t infinite and we already know this ceasefire should have been printed on softer, more absorbent paper considering how well it has held together in the fractions of a Scaramucci since it was signed. Also, while I hope Trump was wrong in his estimate of how much oil is left in reserve, it’s possible he was wrong in that his “four weeks” figure is what he was told three weeks ago. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1563 "2026-06-20T22:32:36Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Also, while I hope Trump was wrong in his estimate of how much oil is left in reserve, it’s possible he was wrong in that his “four weeks” figure is what he was told three weeks ago. But he also said that “millions” of barrels of oil went through the Strait on the day the deal was signed. That had to buy the world a few days, at least. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1564 "2026-06-20T22:36:43Z")
From June 4th – not paywalled for me: > **[‘Tank bottom’: Oil industry warns Trump admin that drained inventories...](https://www.eenews.net/articles/tank-bottom-oil-industry-warns-trump-admin-that-drained-inventories-threaten-to-spike-gas-prices/)** > > Industry executives said loss of oil through the Strait of Hormuz is draining petroleum inventories to dangerously low levels. > The oil industry is warning the Trump administration that a Hormuz-sized hole in the world’s petroleum market is steadily draining inventories to levels that are likely to send global energy prices surging in the next several weeks, according to four executives. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1565 "2026-06-21T00:44:07Z")
I hope everyone filled their gas tanks in the last 48 hours. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1566 "2026-06-21T17:39:01Z")
Whoops! ---
**Author:** ![knavette57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knavette57/32/3871_2.png) [@knavette57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knavette57)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1567 "2026-06-21T17:42:41Z")
Yes, that, or start looking at the EVs for sale in your area… ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1568 "2026-06-26T21:31:00Z")
Trouble in Paradise … again: [**US strikes Iran following attack on cargo ship in Strait of Hormuz - Reuters**](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-insists-right-control-shipping-strait-hormuz-after-ship-hit-near-oman-2026-06-26/) > [@](#): > > The U.S. military attacked Iran ​on Friday in response to an Iranian drone strike on a cargo ship in the Strait of Hormuz, throwing ‌the fate of the interim peace deal recently agreed between the two countries into question. > U.S. Central Command said aircraft struck missile and drone storage locations and coastal radar sites. Iranian media said a projectile struck an area around a pier in Sirik, a city on the shores of the strategic waterway. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2026, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1569 "2026-06-26T22:49:18Z")
Iran made the classic mistake of hitting a ship only 1 day before markets close for the weekend giving the US a window to retaliate and then spend 2 days convincing 4 rich people that firing doesn’t count as the end of a cease fire. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2026, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1570 "2026-06-27T13:11:53Z")
Well put. In other news … the beat(ing?) goes on: > **[U.S.-Iran Latest: Iranian drones target Bahrain after U.S. strikes Iran;...](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/us-iran-war-israel-hezbollah-strait-of-hormuz-peace-deal-talks/)** > > The U.S. carried out retaliatory strikes against Iran on Friday after Iranian forces hit a cargo vessel in the Strait of Hormuz a day earlier. > [@](#): > > What to know about the Iran war today: > > - The U.S. carried out retaliatory strikes against Iran on Friday after Iranian forces hit a cargo vessel in the Strait of Hormuz a day earlier. On Saturday morning, Bahrain reported strikes by Iranian drones, which the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps claimed targeted a “U.S. terrorist army” in the Gulf state. > - President Trump on Friday called Iran’s attack a “foolish violation” of the ceasefire, as Tehran and Washington appear to remain at odds on even basic points in their memorandum of understanding, including control of the strait and how Iran will spend its unfrozen funds. Mr. Trump has not publicly reacted to Saturday’s strike. > - Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced the framework of a deal Friday between Lebanon and Israel, but Hezbollah, which has rejected similar past deals, was not part of the negotiations. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2026, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1571 "2026-06-28T13:04:58Z")
Trump’s track record remains strikingly [NPI] unbroken – total, unmitigated fustercluck: [**Iran attacks Gulf nations, threatens ‘complete halt’ to talks with US - The Hill**](https://thehill.com/policy/international/5944311-iran-retaliatory-strikes-kuwait-bahrain/) > [@](#): > > Iran on Sunday launched retaliatory strikes on Kuwait and Bahrain as it threatens to enforce a “complete halt” to all negotiations that would end the conflict with the U.S. > > Kuwait’s military said it detected and intercepted Iranian drones and two ballistic missiles. Strikes in Bahrain destroyed the top floor of an 8-story building near the airport, according to the country’s Interior Ministry. No deaths were reported. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1572 "2026-07-02T06:57:06Z")
[American Service member missing.](https://www.aol.com/articles/iran-us-indirect-talks-qatar-104137000.html) > [@](#): > > ([NewsNation](https://www.newsnationnow.com/)) — A U.S. service member is missing after an aircrew conducted an emergency water landing in the Arabian Sea. > > Officials said the emergency landing happened at 3:30 a.m. local time on Wednesday, but added there is no indication that the emergency was caused by a hostile action. > > Three of the four crew members have been recovered and are in stable condition aboard George H. W. Bush. U.S. Navy assets in the region are currently searching for other aircrewman still missing, and the cause of that emergency landing is under investigation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=77) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=79)