# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\ **Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 79
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1573 "2026-07-02T10:05:37Z")
Is it really called landing when they come down on water? In Spanish there is _aterrizaje_ (landing on firm ground) and _amerizaje_ (landing, hu, on water). Some planes do it on purpose, they are **[designed for this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaplane)**. Others do it in an emergency (_amerizaje de emergencia_). And in German there is _landen_ and _wassern_. Plus _notwassern_, for the emergencies. No difference in English? ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1574 "2026-07-02T11:08:38Z")
“Watering” means something else in English. You can say stuff like “alighting”, but I believe aviators understand and use the term “water landing”? Now I am not sure, though… There is also “ditching”, but that refers to the emergency procedure. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1575 "2026-07-02T12:42:52Z")
The fun part is when you start adding landings in other celestial bodies: _alunizaje_ (landing on the Moon (Luna)) _amartizaje_ (landing on Mars) (I thought this was mythical but it has it’s own wiki page and all!) I’ve never heard of _avenusizaje_, _amercurizaje_ and _aplutonizaje_ but they must exist… ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1576 "2026-07-02T14:24:50Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > I’ve never heard of _avenusizaje_ I believe if we kept the Latin grammar derivation it would be “avenerizaje”. But yeah the Moon and Mars were the popular kids who got their own words widely used. Venus was a hellworld only the commies were interested in landing on for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1577 "2026-07-02T22:41:54Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Is it really called landing when they come down on water? I would have thought that “ditching” was a more correct term for a non-amphibious plane. Conversely and totally inconsistently, that you “land” an amphibious plane on water. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1578 "2026-07-02T22:47:36Z")
> **Summary** > > [https://youtube.com/shorts/FioOj2-\_CGg?si=nFEMT0GM895EEWb5](https://youtube.com/shorts/FioOj2-_CGg?si=nFEMT0GM895EEWb5) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1579 "2026-07-02T23:01:41Z")
**Moderating** Enough of the water landing hijack. I’ll hide the off-topic but funny video. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1580 "2026-07-08T02:53:29Z")
I guess the war is back on. I’m sure we’ll have the 40th peace agreement rolled out super soon. This war is going swimmingly! > **[U.S. resumes 'powerful strikes' on Iran after Hormuz Strait ship attacks,...](https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/07/us-strikes-iran-hormuz-ships.html)** > > The U.S. revoked Iran oil sales authorization earlier in the day. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1581 "2026-07-08T05:03:03Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I guess the war is back on. I’m sure we’ll have the 40th peace agreement rolled out super soon. This war is going swimmingly! It’s like the old joke. “Quitting drinking his easy; I do it every night when I go to sleep.” ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1582 "2026-07-08T06:25:37Z")
Fitting. [![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_60,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_76,w_100,c_scale,f_avif/v200/hdbtwe4kwslbscl8i6sd) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_60,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_76,w_100,c_scale,f_avif/v200/hdbtwe4kwslbscl8i6sd) ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1583 "2026-07-08T12:54:21Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I guess the war is back on. I’m sure we’ll have the 40th peace agreement rolled out super soon. This war is going swimmingly! > > [U.S. conducts strikes on multiple Iranian targets after Hormuz Strait ship attacks, Centcom says](https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/07/us-strikes-iran-hormuz-ships.html) At this point, I’m not really sure the war was ever off at any point. It has to turn off for it to be back on… Sure the word “ceasefire” has been thrown around for the last three or four months, but I don’t really believe one can have a ceasefire with another country when they are still trading regular attacks here and there with them. It’s kind of like me calling my aunt sort of pregnant. There’s either a ceasefire or there isn’t. I think there’s simply been four or five days of no firing… Here and there, now and again…, in one long war. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1584 "2026-07-08T12:59:38Z")
Were some unusual patterns of futures trading perhaps observed in the oil market just prior to the attack again? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1585 "2026-07-08T13:47:51Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Fitting. They’re clopened, of course. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1586 "2026-07-08T15:10:26Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > At this point, I’m not really sure the war was ever off at any point. Oh, I am fully aware of this. Trump got us into a war that he cannot get out of. At this point, I expect it will be a major 2028 POTUS campaign issue: How will I get us out of this pointless war. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1587 "2026-07-08T15:13:05Z")
And they will blame Democrats when the next president has the stones to stop the war. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1588 "2026-07-08T16:03:30Z")
Especially the botched withdrawal. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1589 "2026-07-08T16:49:35Z")
“Republican presidents… doing lousy foreign policy deals to make their Democratic successors look bad since 1960!” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1590 "2026-07-09T01:31:37Z")
[I called it.](https://www.aol.com/articles/iran-newspaper-makes-brutal-death-120600000.html) > [@](#): > > Multiple death threats coming from Iran toward the president are getting darker and louder, as one ultra-conservative Iranian newspaper has made calls for “Trump’s head”. > > The Kayhan newspaper is said to be funded by Iran’s Supreme Leader, and today’s front page displayed the headlines, “Trump must not stay alive” and “We want Trump’s head,” according to Open Source Intel. > > The piece was reportedly authored by Hossein Shariatmadari, the representative of the Islamic Republic’s leader. Headlines were displayed alongside an image of thousands of mourners gathering for the state funeral of the late Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who was killed on February 28 in U.S. strikes on Iran. His killing another nation’s leader made him a target. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1591 "2026-07-09T01:35:57Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > His killing another nation’s leader made him a target. Also, it _politically legitimizes_ assassinating leaders when you do so yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1592 "2026-07-09T01:42:03Z")
I am so torn on how to feel about that. On the one hand, sometimes people get what they deserve. On the more sensible hand, I’m against assassination for the reason just given. Also, I think the reaction of Americans wouldn’t be so much “what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander,” but a 9/11-style “how DARE they!!” + disproportionate reaction. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=78) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=80)