# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\ **Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/142 "2026-02-28T23:34:29Z")
Surrender or die. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/143 "2026-02-28T23:35:47Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > If Trump cared about a better regime in Iran he’d have supported the nationwide protestors a month or so ago trying for exactly that. Absolutely. Though you must admit that the very notion of Donald caring about the welfare of protesters is very darkly comic. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Trump doesn’t care. Kidnapping leaders or killing them…all fine in his book. The world just changed today. And there’s no one to stop him (unless, what, twenty million Americans marched on Washington? Might need more than that what with losses due to being mown-down…) But point is: in this current world order, the bad guys really do have all the power. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/144 "2026-02-28T23:36:09Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Surrender or die It comes across more like “Surrender AND die”. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/145 "2026-02-28T23:37:15Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “Now they can have Immunity, later they only get DEATH”? What the hell does that even MEAN? Presumably it means that if the IRGC personnel surrender now then he will grant them immunity but if they fight on they will die. > [@Smapti](#): > > Well, this doesn’t sound unhinged at all… I’d never describe a Trump tweet as “not unhinged”. Offering immunity to IRGC personnel who surrender right away makes some sense if the goal is to create enough momentum for the regime to collapse and Iranians to rise up and replace it, but diplomacy by Twitter is completely unhinged. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/146 "2026-02-28T23:38:40Z")
It all depends on the support among the people. The 💩will hit the fan if several million Islamics take to the steets protesting the death of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. I hope he doesn’t have that level of support compared to Ayatollah Khomeini. He was a huge figure in the Islamic Revolution. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/147 "2026-02-28T23:39:54Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Yes, his body has apparently been located It interesting that you were skeptical of a single-source report of the bombing of an Iranian girls school, yet a single-source claim of Khamenei’s death is accepted with much less rigor. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/148 "2026-02-28T23:41:11Z")
Even though the Iranian public are deeply unhappy with their regime history shows getting attacked will almost certainly draw them all together in a common cause of opposing the invaders rather than seeing it as an opportunity to get rid of the current regime. Maybe this time will be different but I would not bet on it. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/149 "2026-02-28T23:43:48Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Even though the Iranian public are deeply unhappy with their regime history shows getting attacked will almost certainly draw them all together in a common cause of opposing the inivaders rather than seeing it as an opportunity to get rid of the current regime. I mean, that’s just how human beings tend to act. Everyone just dehumanizes the other side and convinces themselves that they can bomb “those people” and be thanked for it. Even though they themselves would never do so. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/150 "2026-02-28T23:44:32Z")
Some experts gaming it out: > **[Gauging the Impact of Massive U.S.-Israeli Strikes on Iran | Council on...](https://www.cfr.org/articles/gauging-the-impact-of-massive-u-s-israeli-strikes-on-iran)** > > CFR experts assess the brewing conflict between the United States, Israel, and Iran, following the launch of a joint U.S.-Israeli military operation on February 28. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/151 "2026-02-28T23:49:10Z")
I saw it. He was actually coherent and didn’t appear to go off-script, which makes me think it was AI-generated. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/152 "2026-02-28T23:52:47Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > It interesting that you were skeptical of a single-source report of the bombing of an Iranian girls school, yet a single-source claim of Khamenei’s death is accepted with much less rigor. I mean, one “single source” was multiple news agencies in Israel confirming that there were photos of his body, and the other “single source” is indeed a single source, the Islamic Republic News Agency. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/153 "2026-02-28T23:56:49Z")
Strong statement from Carney during his visit to India: [https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-carney-us-attack-trump-iran-nuclear-weapon-9.7109886](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-carney-us-attack-trump-iran-nuclear-weapon-9.7109886) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/154 "2026-02-28T23:59:00Z")
Multiple news agencies quoting the Israeli government is a single source. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/155 "2026-03-01T00:01:44Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Multiple news agencies quoting the Israeli government is a single source I’m not sure what point in time you are referring to, but Israeli news agencies have confirmed the photo exists, even if it hasn’t been published publically. That said, if you’re trying to “own” me by pointing out that I find the Israeli government to be a more reliable source than Iranian regime, then… Yeah, obviously? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/156 "2026-03-01T00:02:37Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > He was actually coherent and didn’t appear to go off-script, which makes me think it was AI-generated. Meanwhile, in this photo from the “situation room” at Mar-a-Lago he looks more like a wax sculpture of himself. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:x4twekkcqqocum73hqn46aib/bafkreihnjlp5ojevlnnlkzo5fudbhr25hophqlt6guc4b3n4nqyggarniu@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:x4twekkcqqocum73hqn46aib/bafkreihnjlp5ojevlnnlkzo5fudbhr25hophqlt6guc4b3n4nqyggarniu@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/157 "2026-03-01T00:08:17Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Trump is sending a signal to the world that no matter how powerful you think you are, you aren’t safe from the US military. Unless of course one is in the Epstein files. Then you’re completely safe. Protected, even. I have had the news on all day but on mute. I wouldn’t be surprised if this episode of “Wag the Dog” went for less than ten minutes before some talking head observed that this is obviously meant to be a distraction from “domestic issues”. Internet talking heads feel no such obligation to sugar coat it and they will call it like they see it. In any case, in about two weeks when the amusement value of military adventurism wears off, the files will be there, waiting for him. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/158 "2026-03-01T00:20:26Z")
The naysayers are going to look pretty foolish when the Iranian people greet us as liberators. /s ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/159 "2026-03-01T00:27:48Z")
I’m just a skeptic at heart though. I mean there’s just things about that particular part that just doesn’t make sense to me. For one, the toll keeps rising. Initially it was 30 or 40 killed kind of but then later when I looked on CNN it said more like 65 were killed… Then later it was updated to being over 80. Right now it’s risen again, it’s 108. Really? 108 girls were in school on Saturday? Does Iran have school on Saturday? Or maybe it was a school where they live also? Maybe it was that, I don’t know, but it just feels like something is off about the story. I have no doubt that when I check in on this story tomorrow the death toll will probably have risen to 500 or something. Trust me, I want nothing more than hate Donald Trump even more… I already think he’s in the wrong about this and that he overstepped his bounds and it’s just another thing he’s done of many where he’s being a threat to humanity and democracy with his dictatorship, fascism, racist, pedophilic, Nazi like behavior… But I simply can’t pile on him over this… I just feel like it’s a story that could be made up by Iran in order to instigate more sympathy for them or to instigate more outrage against the US. I mean, that is not outside possibility. And again, I have only seen Iran News reporting this. It has not been verified by any other news station other than news sources in Iran. I’m sorry if I don’t put Faith in news sources coming solely out of Iran. You may put more faith in them than I do, but I find I cannot. I recognize that there is a photo as proof, yes that does look like citizens were bombed, that’s very unfortunate, downright horrible and tragic, I had no doubt that citizens were bombed though because Donald Trump seems like the asshat monster who would do that… But I still have seen no evidence that it was specifically a girl’s school. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/160 "2026-03-01T01:01:03Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I have had the news on all day but on mute. I wouldn’t be surprised if this episode of “Wag the Dog” went for less than ten minutes before some talking head observed that this is obviously meant to be a distraction from “domestic issues”. I think I’ve already referred to it as “squirrel” or something to distract from his pending issues. And _Wag the Dog_ is the wrong show, I think. _Homeland_ seems to have given us this ratio. G’olum:Hayes::Putin:Trumpt > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Does Iran have school on Saturday? Iran’s weekend is as follows, per [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workweek_and_weekend#Iran). > [@](#): > > The standard working week in [Iran](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran) begins on Saturday and ends on Thursday. Thursdays are usually half-day working days. Many private enterprises which operate on an 8 to 5 basis take Thursdays off for a two-day Thursday-Friday weekend. These variations allow employers flexibility in choosing working hours so that the legal requirement of working for 44 hours per week is met. However, shopping places are usually open for business on Friday as well. In 2015, President [Hasan Rouhani](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasan_Rouhani) recognized Saturday as the sabbath for the country’s very small [Jewish minority](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Iran#1980s_to_present-day), allowing Jewish adults to stay home from work and students to stay home from school. Back to the thread topic. How long do you suppose it will take before Trump realizes that if it’s okay for him to assassinate another country’s top leader, then it must also be okay for another country to assassinate him? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2026, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/161 "2026-03-01T01:02:59Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Back to the thread topic. How long do you suppose it will take before Trump realizes that if it’s okay for him to assassinate another country’s top leader, then it must also be okay for another country to assassinate him? Don’t forget not too long ago he kidnapped another foreign leader. Gloves are off. What few rules and norms there were are gone now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=9)