# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\
**Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1593 "2026-07-09T09:03:01Z")

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[He’s aftr Kharg Island again.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-says-us-may-over-185213153.html)

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> US President Donald Trump has once again turned his focus to Kharg Island, Iran’s main oil export hub, after declaring an interim ceasefire with Iran “over” and warning the US was preparing more strikes.
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> Speaking on the sidelines of the NATO summit in Turkiye on Wednesday, after the US carried out strikes on Iranian targets in response to attacks on three tankers in the Strait of Hormuz.
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> “I give them a little warning. We’re going to hit them hard tonight,” Trump told reporters.

Good job telling the “enemy” about the timing of your operation, “stable genius.”

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1594 "2026-07-09T09:08:35Z")

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Seems like a rare dumb move from Iran in this war, IMO. If they really want to kill Trump, they wouldn’t be announcing it. If they don’t, this just helps Trump look tough and dangerous and he’ll relish it.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1595 "2026-07-09T17:34:55Z")

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Kharg, KHARG, **KHARG**.!

One of the few words he can recall in that area of the world. Let’s see: Iran, nuclear dust, bomb, Kharg, Japan, missiles, drone. That’s about it.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2026, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1596 "2026-07-10T10:48:12Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Seems like a rare dumb move from Iran in this war, IMO. If they really want to kill Trump, they wouldn’t be announcing it. If they don’t, this just helps Trump look tough and dangerous and he’ll relish it.

Most likely it’s aimed at the Iranian public, not America. It’s an Iranian newspaper read by Iranians, after all.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2026, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1597 "2026-07-10T13:46:49Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> If they really want to kill Trump, they wouldn’t be announcing it.

Tell Salman Rushdie that.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1598 "2026-07-13T04:42:58Z")

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[And how’s that so-called cease fire going?](https://www.aol.com/articles/iran-targets-us-navy-supplies-135109000.html)

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> Iran has targeted US naval supply lines in a wave of airstrikes that have brought the interim peace deal to the brink of collapse.
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> Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps claimed to have destroyed several key US facilities across the Gulf, including a refuelling station for American aircraft carriers at the Port of Duqm, Oman.
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> Five Arab states were targeted during the attacks, including Qatar, a key mediators in peace negotiations, prompting a furious response from the region.
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> The strikes were the most extensive wave of attacks since fighting restarted this week.
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> Doha said they marked a “dangerous escalation” as Oman condemned the strikes on its territory, which took place just hours after talks with Iran aimed at reducing tensions around the Strait of Hormuz.
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> The Iranian attacks were carried out after the US launched some 140 strikes on Saturday evening in response to further assaults by Tehran on commercial shipping in the waterway.

[Could it be because the US keeps bombing the place even though the US government keeps saying the waterway is open?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/iran-live-updates-thousands-throng-084031299.html)

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> Delegations from the U.S. and Iran entered negotiations last month aimed at a war-ending deal based on a memorandum of understanding signed by both countries.
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> The U.S. and Iran have nonetheless continued to exchange relatively limited strikes despite the signing of the memorandum and amid the continuation of peace talks.
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> Iranian state media is reporting that at least one person was killed and four others were injured in the latest wave of U.S. strikes against Iran.
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> Those affected were at an agricultural water pumping station in Mahshahr city, according to FARS. The person killed was the guard of the complex, the outlet said.
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> U.S. Central Command said the strikes targeted Iranian military air-defense systems, coastal radar sites, missile and drone capabilities, and small boats.
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> On Sunday, Iranian forces fired on commercial vessels in the Strait of Hormuz while U.S. forces were conducting strikes on Iranian targets, according to a U.S. official.
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> The official added that U.S. aircraft shot down an Iranian cruise missile and a one-way attack drone that were targeting the vessels. It’s unclear whether any vessels were damaged in those attacks.
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> _-ABC News’ Steven Beynon_
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> Following a wave of U.S. strikes on Iranian targets on Sunday, Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Kazem Gharibabadi released a statement, saying, “No action against Iran should go unanswered.”

Think about that last statement. That alone is why the US is now in a forever war. And why? For what purpose? It certainly cannot be because Iran was develping nuclear weapons. The current US president’s actions on negating a treaty to stop such an action shows that. And as far as negotiations go, if your only response to the other party’s position is to start a war and then continue bombing whenever you “feel like” the other party is going to do something, then there’s no chance the other party is going to ever trust you.

This is a forever vanity war and it will last long after the instigator finally departs this mortal coil.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1599 "2026-07-13T11:08:55Z")

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And Iran seems to have had a decent amount of success in another area.

> **[After losing about $1 billion in Reaper drones over Iran, the US wants a...](https://www.techspot.com/news/113054-iran-destroyed-1-billion-worth-reaper-drones-us.html)**
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> The Defense Innovation Unit (DIU), the Pentagon organization that pulls commercial tech into the military, has opened submissions for a project called Massed Modular Aircraft (MMA).

> Air Force officials told lawmakers in May that about two dozen MQ-9As had been lost during Operation Epic Fury against Iran. Other reports put the tally closer to 30. Depending on configuration, officials have said a Reaper can cost up to $50 million, and the MQ-9A production line was shut down in 2025.

Although this bit is the real killer for me:

> The US has already started moving toward less wallet-destroying drones. Reuters reported in March that the Pentagon debuted the Low-Cost Uncrewed Combat Attack System, or LUCAS, in Iran just eight months after its unveiling. That drone costs around $35,000, uses open architecture, **and is modeled after Iran’s Shahed designs.**

The US is doing so poorly, they’ve started to _copy the Iranians’ designs_.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1600 "2026-07-13T13:14:01Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> The US is doing so poorly, they’ve started to _copy the Iranians’ designs_.

This tends to happen in wars of sufficient duration though, both sides copy the opponent’s successful tactics/equipment

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1601 "2026-07-13T13:55:03Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> This tends to happen in wars of sufficient duration though,

Well, yes, that’s sort of my point. Trump thought this would be a weekend of bombing, and Iran would come begging for peace. But now it’s gone on so long, the US is having to seriously reevaluate its tactics and equipment. And they’re looking to the enemy for inspiration. There was a day the US would lead on weapons development, but those days appear to be gone.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1602 "2026-07-13T13:58:34Z")

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Do you seriously think that there isn’t billions of dollars going into weapons development in the US based on one drone technique maybe being copied?

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1603 "2026-07-13T14:13:24Z")

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I agree on the Trump underestimating the time point, but no matter how much money you spend or how advanced your weapon systems are, in any conflict you’ll end up copying the enemy tactics that work, unless you are even stupider that the current US leadership is, which seems impossible.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1604 "2026-07-13T14:32:51Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> His killing another nation’s leader made him a target. Go figure.

Iran has had various foiled plots against both Trump and his predecessors, so it’s more than a little silly to claim that his actions are what ‘made him a target’. Unless you think Iran has access to a time machine.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1605 "2026-07-14T04:25:34Z")

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[The bombings will still continue until…who knows?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/middle-east-rocked-heaviest-attacks-103940854.html)

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> The United States launched a fresh salvo of strikes against Iran early Tuesday, marking a new escalation in the resumption of hostilities, even as US President Donald Trump said a deal with Tehran was still possible.
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> “We’re going to hit them very hard tonight, and we’re going to hit them hard tomorrow,” Trump told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt on Monday.
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> Oil prices shot up more than nine percent over fears of renewed conflict.

[And there’s now a new target.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-says-us-pickaxe-mountain-205758192.html)

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> WASHINGTON, July 13 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday said that the U.S. would take out ‌Pickaxe Mountain in Iran, as he warned that ‌Washington would continue to hit the country hard.
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> “We’re going to take out ​Pickaxe Mountain. Tell the Iranians to be ready,” Trump said in an interview on the Hugh Hewitt Show.
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> “We’re watching (Pickaxe Mountain) closely. We see no activity there. They’re not doing well ‌with their nuclear situation. ⁠Every time we hear about it, we blow it up. So they don’t like talking ⁠about it. But we’ll probably give Pickaxe a shot relatively soon,” Trump said.

Way to earn your Nobel Peace Prize!

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1606 "2026-07-14T13:23:13Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> > “We’re going to take out ​Pickaxe Mountain. Tell the Iranians to be ready,” Trump said in an interview on the Hugh Hewitt Show.

Meanwhile Hegseth is tearing up the Pentagon trying to find the people who are leaking information…

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1607 "2026-07-14T15:33:39Z")

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Let the purges continue! Maybe just round up everyone in the pentagon and send them to camps in remote Montana. It fits with this administration’s modus operandi.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1608 "2026-07-14T23:04:50Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Meanwhile Hegseth is tearing up the Pentagon trying to find the people who are leaking information…

I’m surprised he hasn’t blamed all the service members with beards.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2026, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1609 "2026-07-15T02:24:48Z")

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Don’t forget the fatties.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2026, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1610 "2026-07-15T05:55:34Z")

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In breaking news, Secretary of Defense Pete Kegsbreath announced the arrest of one Donald J. Trump for leaking classified information to the media. Petey described this individual as a treasonous threat to the nation and demanded his immediate deportation.

_ **"Hegseth said in a video posted on X on Monday, “The unauthorized disclosure of sensitive War Department information has the very real potential to cause exceptionally grave damage to our national security and the operational integrity of our armed forces. To leak sensitive national defense information and secrets betrays the men and women who wear our nation’s uniform.”** _

**Immediately afterwards, he was arrested himself for the same crimes**.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2026, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1611 "2026-07-16T04:10:19Z")

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[And now Iran has declared this war to be an “existential war” againt the United States.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/us-strikes-iran-again-as-tehran-warns-of-existential-war-with-america-233825670.html)

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> CAIRO/DUBAI, July 15 (Reuters) - The U.S. launched two waves of attacks on Iran’s coastal defenses and missile sites on Wednesday after reimposing a naval blockade of its ports, while Iran struck back by targeting U.S. military sites in neighboring countries in what it called an “existential war” with America.
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> The latest escalation comes days after a ‌fragile truce collapsed, raising the specter of a return to full-scale war, with Iran once again threatening to shut off more regional energy exports.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1612 "2026-07-18T07:31:00Z")

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Potential casualty situation at Jordanian AFB.

[https://x.com/Aviation\_Intel/status/2078368015989764366](https://x.com/Aviation_Intel/status/2078368015989764366)

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