# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\ **Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1613 "2026-07-18T17:26:11Z")
Casualties in Jordan, US , two dead and some injuries. [U.S. Central Command on X: "CENTCOM Statement on Recently Fallen, Missing U.S. Service Members TAMPA, Fla. — On July 17, two U.S. service members in Jordan were killed in action as U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) and partner forces defended against Iranian ballistic missile and drone attacks. Additionally," / X](https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2078530691109974522)? ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1614 "2026-07-18T17:37:26Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Potential casualty situation Wow! Is that your euphemism or did you copy that from Central Command? > [@smithsb](#): > > Casualties in Jordan, US , two dead and some injuries > [quoting X from **smithsb** ’s post]: > > > U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) and partner forces defended against Iranian ballistic missile and drone attacks. I wonder how you defend against missiles and drones. I guess best to take deep, deep cover asap. Whatever they did it did not work 100% for all of them. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1615 "2026-07-18T17:50:55Z")
It’s times like this that the Republican strategy of electing a real estate fraudster is sure to pay off! Pretty soon now we’ll see the latest bit of thoughtful war planning, in the form of more bombs. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1616 "2026-07-18T21:10:58Z")
Hegseth comments on latest American deaths in the Iran war. [![](https://i.ibb.co/ymwXdR68/AISelect-20260718-170256-Chrome.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/ymwXdR68/AISelect-20260718-170256-Chrome.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1617 "2026-07-18T21:20:39Z")
If only we knew what we were resolved to do… ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1618 "2026-07-18T21:26:00Z")
Stiffens. That dude, ffs. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1619 "2026-07-20T13:56:06Z")
He’s cosplaying as Winston Churchill, but without the intelligence, experience, or gravitas. Or sense of humour. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1620 "2026-07-20T15:06:33Z")
The Houthis are announcing a blockade on Saudi Arabia (presumably a blockade of the Red Sea?, there goes the alternative route to Hormuz) ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1621 "2026-07-20T16:37:11Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > presumably a blockade of the Red Sea?, there goes the alternative route to Hormuz) “Alternative route to Hormuz” doesn’t make sense here. Yes, a Red Sea blockade would block the main route between Europe and Hormuz, but it’s not “alternative” to some other route. Other routes, such as going the long way around Africa, are alternative to it. More important, though, is that it’s the main route between China and Europe. Consider what happened a while back when a ship got stuck in the Suez Canal. Pretty much the same thing, except the Saudis can still export to Europe because they have a port on the Red Sea north of where the blockade would be. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1622 "2026-07-20T16:40:42Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > “Alternative route to Hormuz” doesn’t make sense here. Yes, a Red Sea blockade would block the main route between Europe and Hormuz, but it’s not “alternative” to some other route. Other routes, such as going the long way around Africa, are alternative to it. I mean it in the sense that they are using pipelines to send oil to Red Sea ports to avoid shipping it through the Strait of Hormuz, I’m mistaken in thinking that that is being done? ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1623 "2026-07-20T16:45:57Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > I mean it in the sense that they are using pipelines to send oil to Red Sea ports to avoid shipping it through the Strait of Hormuz, I’m mistaken in thinking that that is being done? I refered to that in my post. There’s one cross-Arabian pipeline to one port on the Red Sea. As I said, that port is north of the blockade, so they can still ship from there to Europe. Yes, it would block the route from there to east Asia, but the pipeline doesn’t have the capacity to supply all the usual amount of oil sent to east Asia anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1624 "2026-07-20T16:47:53Z")
Right you are, sorry, should’ve read more carefully. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1625 "2026-07-20T17:18:10Z")
The Guardian seems to share my initial take: > **[Trump says Iran ‘will pay’ for killing soldiers ‘many times over’ after...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/jul/20/us-iran-war-live-updates-strikes-strait-of-hormuz-middle-east-crisis-latest-news?page=with%3Ablock-6a5e3bfa8f08ed007109e348#block-6a5e3bfa8f08ed007109e348)** > > Donald ⁠Trump said ⁠on ​Monday ⁠that Iran ⁠would “pay” ​for ‌killing ‌US soldiers “many times over” after multiple service members ‌were killed ​in ⁠action ​over the ​weekend. | A number of US military service members were killed in action over the... > The Houthis’ naval blockade, if enforced, could further strain Saudi Arabia’s economy by cutting off access to its Red Sea ports, which have been vital for oil exports as renewed fighting limits passage through the **strait of Hormuz** ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1626 "2026-07-20T17:28:43Z")
The good thing about provoking a war in the Middle East is that it almost never gets complicated! ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1627 "2026-07-20T17:29:33Z")
Land wars in Asia are famously easy to win. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1628 "2026-07-20T17:43:45Z")
Vizzini: “Never get involved in a land war in Asia.” Trump: I’m such a genius! No one but me has ever realized that the Strait of Hormuz _isn’t land_. «wages war» ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1629 "2026-07-20T18:33:09Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > Trump: I’m such a genius! No one but me has ever realized that the Strait of Hormuz _isn’t land_. «wages war» And discovers that without controlling the land around the Strait you cannot keep it open… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1630 "2026-07-21T00:37:15Z")
[More threats of retalitory killings from who started the war.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/us-widens-strikes-iran-075724211.html) > [@](#): > > US President Donald Trump warned Iran on Monday that it would pay “many times over” for every American soldier killed as a top Iranian leader said the conflict has escalated into a “full-scale war.” > > As the United States announced a new round of strikes against the Islamic Republic, Tehran’s Yemeni allies, the Houthi rebels, threatened to broaden the war even further by announcing they would blockade Saudi ports. > > Such a move by the Houthis would put at risk Riyadh’s ability to bypass the flashpoint Strait of Hormuz for some of its oil exports and have major repercussions on the global economy. > > Saudi Arabia and the Houthis traded fire last week for the first time in years, threatening a 2022 truce, but the rebels have largely remained on the sidelines since Israel and the United States attacked Iran in late February. > > Saudi Arabia strongly condemned the threat from what it called the “terrorist Houthi militia” and said it “continues to support the brotherly Yemeni people and their legitimate government.” > > Trump issued his latest warning to Tehran in a post on Truth Social following the deaths of three more US soldiers, bringing the total number of confirmed American fatalities in the war to 17. > > Nearly 100 US servicemembers have been wounded since July 7, the Pentagon said on Monday, most with minor concussions. > > “Every time Iran kills an American Soldier they will pay for that killing many times over!” Trump said. “This directive has been passed on to Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Daniel Caine, and every Leader in the Military.” Anyone know what’s the count of war crimes observed in this war thus far? ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1631 "2026-07-21T02:51:10Z")
> [@45/47](#): > > “Every time Iran kills an American Soldier they will pay for that killing many times over!” As a morbid, macabre, nea ghoulish query; were the Iranians to pay out reparations for each harmed US serviceman as demanded, what % would 45/47 consider as fair squeeze for his grift? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1632 "2026-07-21T16:42:57Z")
Seen in the Guardian: > **Trump pledges to ‘take care of’ Houthis if group blocks Saudi ships** 🎶 And the mission creeps on growing 🎶 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=80) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=82)