# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\ **Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 84
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1673 "2026-07-26T16:24:06Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > The USA has been imposing a blockade on Cuba for ages now, and Cuba is an island. That’s more of an embargo than a blockade. It only prevents trade between the US and Cuba. The blockade of Iran is a blockade of all sea traffic to/from Iran. I don’t know if it will be any more successful, but the two situations really aren’t comparable. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1674 "2026-07-26T17:21:46Z")
it’s more like an economic blockade since you can’t trade with both the US and Cuba and logically most countries chose the US. That said the rest of your post is correct, at least until recently when the US seems to be turning the screws on Cuba to the point that it’s doubtful it can last much longer. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1675 "2026-07-26T17:30:40Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > it’s more like an economic blockade since you can’t trade with both the US and Cuba and logically most countries chose the US. I’m not sure that’s true. Mexico seems to trade with both the US and Cuba without a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1676 "2026-07-26T17:40:58Z")
I think there are (were) ways around it, but Mexico’s exports of oil to Cuba for example are no longer ongoing, part of the aforementioned “turning of the screws” ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1677 "2026-07-26T17:51:12Z")
Ahh, yeah. But that’s focused on one product, albeit a very important one. Either way, that has only been going on for a few months, not ages. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1678 "2026-07-26T17:52:39Z")
[https://www.npr.org/2026/07/26/g-s1-135593/us-pauses-attacks-iran-second-day-tehran](https://www.npr.org/2026/07/26/g-s1-135593/us-pauses-attacks-iran-second-day-tehran) > CAIRO — The United States paused its attacks on Iran for a second straight day Sunday and Tehran said it had done so too, as efforts continued to bring the countries back to negotiations on an interim ceasefire deal largely undermined by recent exchanges of fire. > > It was not clear why the U.S. has paused after targeting Iranian coastal areas and infrastructure in a nearly two-week escalation sparked by Iran’s firing at ships trying to transit the Strait of Hormuz. The Pentagon did not immediately respond to questions Sunday. Lets see if this holds. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1679 "2026-07-26T18:11:46Z")
Let’s see where the oil futures market goes! ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1680 "2026-07-26T18:41:40Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Lets see if this holds. No, no. You have to get the emphasis right. It’s: Let’s see if this holds 🙄. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1681 "2026-07-26T22:58:33Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > No, no. You have to get the emphasis right. It’s: > > Let’s see if this holds 🙄. I cant argue with that, ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1682 "2026-07-26T23:03:20Z")
Down 5% at 7pm ET ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1683 "2026-07-27T05:13:42Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > What is going to have to happen is a peace deal brokered by a third party, with guarantees from both sides, as neither the US nor Iran can be trusted on their own. The US cannot, at this point in time, with this administration, be trusted to uphold ANY kind of deal whatsoever. It’s just as likely that Trump will listen to his cornflakes the next morning, and order more bombing. Any credibility the US had in the past is now long gone. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1684 "2026-07-27T18:02:07Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The US cannot, at this point in time, with this administration, be trusted to uphold ANY kind of deal whatsoever. Nor can we trust Iran. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1685 "2026-07-27T18:19:15Z")
Nobody can trust the USA, nobody can trust Iran, there is only **[one thing we can do](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q)** (8 sec video). Sad that it has come to this. Wasn’t it a long way down? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1686 "2026-07-27T18:20:08Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > there is only **[one thing we can do](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q)** (8 sec video). Please no blind links. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1687 "2026-07-27T18:21:56Z")
You call an eight second video a blind link? You really want to know that it is a quote from Aliens? Aliens is a movie, and that bit is safe for work, in case that is your worry. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1688 "2026-07-27T18:22:26Z")
Genuine question, has Iran ever broken treaties in the blatant way the U.S. is in the habit of doing lately? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1689 "2026-07-27T18:25:41Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Nor can we trust Iran. Well, maybe not _trust_ trust, but I do trust that they’ll actually act in a way they calculate will be in their own best interests, even if I disagree with them on what their own best interests are. I can no longer trust the US to do the same, with Trump in charge. He acts completely irrationally, flipping and flopping every time the voices in his head suggests that someone, somewhere might think he’s a loser. No matter what deal he signs, it could be tossed out the next day on some stupid whim. And we all know that, we’ve all seen him do exactly that on several occasions. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1690 "2026-07-27T18:40:12Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Genuine question, has Iran ever broken treaties in the blatant way the U.S. is in the habit of doing lately? You know i just quoted this [https://www.npr.org/2026/07/26/g-s1-135593/us-pauses-attacks-iran-second-day-tehran](https://www.npr.org/2026/07/26/g-s1-135593/us-pauses-attacks-iran-second-day-tehran) > It was not clear why the U.S. has paused after targeting Iranian coastal areas and infrastructure in a nearly two-week escalation sparked by Iran’s firing at ships trying to transit the Strait of Hormuz. Not to mention the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), and the > **[Non-Proliferation Treaty Safeguards Agreement with Iran: E3 statement to the...](https://www.gov.uk/government/news/non-proliferation-treaty-safeguards-agreement-with-iran-e3-statement-to-the-international-atomic-energy-agency-march-2024)** > > On Wednesday 6 March, France, Germany and the UK (E3) gave a joint statement to the IAEA Board of Governors on Iran's implementation of its obligations under its NPT Safeguards Agreement. > It has been five years since the Director General first reported evidence to the Board of possible undeclared nuclear material and activities at a number of locations in Iran. Since then, Iran has failed to resolve these long-standing concerns, despite numerous resolutions by the Board, most recently in November 2022. In that time, the number of instances where Iran has acted against its legal safeguards obligations has grown. Let us briefly recall these issues: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International\_sanctions\_against\_Iran#FATF\_blacklisting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_against_Iran#FATF_blacklisting) > On 21 February 2020, Iran was placed on the [Financial Action Task Force (FATF) blacklist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FATF_blacklist#Current_FATF_blacklist "FATF blacklist").[[60]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_against_Iran#cite_note-60) On 25 October 2024, the FATF again placed Iran on its blacklist, alongside Myanmar and North Korea, due to Iran’s failure to enact laws preventing money laundering and the financing of terrorism through its support for the [Axis of Resistance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_Resistance "Axis of Resistance").[[61]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_against_Iran#cite_note-:1-61)[[62]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_against_Iran#cite_note-:2-62) > **[Islamabad Memorandum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamabad_Memorandum)** > > The Islamabad Memorandum, officially the Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran, was a memorandum of understanding (MoU) between the United States and Iran aimed at ending the 2026 Iran war. It was primarily brokered by Pakistan, with Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Egypt also facilitating negotiations. Pakistani prime minister Shehbaz Sharif said that the U.S. and Iran had reached agreement on final text to end the war on 12... > On 8 July, after Iran struck multiple commercial ships in the Strait of Hormuz and the US responded by striking Iranian territory, Trump indicated the MoU was “over.” He added that U.S. negotiators can continue negotiations, but he voiced pessimism regarding the potential results.[[22]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamabad_Memorandum#cite_note-23)[[23]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamabad_Memorandum#cite_note-24)[[24]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamabad_Memorandum#cite_note-25) On 18 July, Iran’s Deputy Foreign Minister [Kazem Gharibabadi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazem_Gharibabadi "Kazem Gharibabadi") announced the suspension of commitments related to the MoU, citing an alleged breach of obligations by the US as the reason for this action.[[25]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamabad_Memorandum#cite_note-26) > [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > You call an eight second video a blind link? It could go to malware or even be a Rickrolled. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1691 "2026-07-27T18:41:08Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > It could go to malware or even be a Rickrolled. Without looking at it I can tell you it’s “nuke them from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure”. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1692 "2026-07-27T18:46:59Z")
Spot on. That is how predictable I am. You get ten points, **DrDeth** gets nothing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=83) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=85)