# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\ **Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1693 "2026-07-27T21:58:24Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > It could go to malware or even be a Rickrolled. A link with a helpful description could also go to malware or a rickroll ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1694 "2026-07-27T22:03:30Z")
Thanks, YMMV but none of those seem as blatant to me as Trump’s reneging on the JCOAP, or imposing tariffs on countries with which he had signed (himself!) free trade agreements. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1695 "2026-07-27T22:04:45Z")
Moderating: This thread is supposed to be for the discussion of _NEW EVENTS IN THE ONGOING CONFLICT ONLY_. It is not to post cute links. It is not to discuss blind links or rickrolls or malware. It is not to discuss “what ifs”. If you are not posting about a current happening in this conflict, you’re in the wrong thread. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2026, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1696 "2026-07-31T00:52:55Z")
[The peace president’s war continues unabated.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/ml--iran-us-050815847.html) > [@](#): > > CAIRO (AP) — The United States and Iran each fired barrages of missiles Thursday, as the [pattern of back-and-forth strikes](https://apnews.com/hub/iran) took hold again and hope dimmed for a quick end to the five-month conflict. > > Following [a few days of respite](https://apnews.com/article/iran-war-united-states-ceasefire-ad9fa27d5b1b5fd51e30d923ee738238), fears of a wider war have grown, with renewed fighting [threatening to engulf](https://apnews.com/article/iran-war-trump-saudi-arabia-israel-cbb2c3f49f3072c542fc6395468b64b5) even more countries. Jordan said Thursday it intercepted Iranian missiles for the second consecutive day, while Kuwait said a strike in the northern part of the country killed one person. Also this week, drones caused fires on ships at an Egyptian port, and Saudi Arabia said it came under fire from Iran-backed militias in Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1697 "2026-07-31T01:42:02Z")
This isn’t bombing, but it does seem like a potential escalation in the conflict between the US and Iran, if suspicions bear out: (Gift link) [US Sees Iran as Likely Behind Cyberattack on Minnesota Water Systems](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/30/us/politics/minnesota-water-cyberattack-iran.html?unlocked_article_code=1.11A.ar8j.aSOX--uvMvxM&smid=url-share) From the article: > Investigators believe a cyberattack this week on dozens of municipal water systems in Minnesota was probably the work of Iranian hackers, according to U.S. and state officials and others familiar with the matter, a potential act of aggression that comes at a precarious moment in the U.S. war against Iran. > > Officials cautioned that they had not definitively determined who was responsible for the attack and that the preliminary assessment could change as the authorities collected more technical data. > > They also warned that the hackers could be attempting to pose as Iran-based in an effort to ratchet up tensions between the two countries, though former intelligence officials said such a scenario was unlikely. A scary new aspect of this war, if found to be true. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1698 "2026-08-01T01:15:37Z")
@Aspenglow I posted over in the cluster thread Trump’s own suspicions. He blames Governor Walz for it. [And now he’s complimenting Iran’s military.](https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/article/as-traffic-in-strait-of-hormuz-drops-trump-says-he-doesnt-know-when-us-can-loosen-irans-grip-195408059.html) > [@](#): > > Traffic in the Strait of Hormuz reached new lows on Friday as President Trump suggested that the path to ending the war and reopening the all-but-closed waterway could be weeks away. > > Asked about the US efforts to degrade Iran’s ability to disrupt traffic in the strait, Trump was noncommittal, saying, “Well, you never know, most people would have given up by now,” as he acknowledged that Iran maintains some ability to launch attacks. > > “They’re tough,” the president added, “so I give them credit for that.” They must be tough if they’re able to do what they’re doing after being “utterly destroyed” by the US military. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1699 "2026-08-01T01:58:28Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I posted over in the cluster thread Trump’s own suspicions. Good. I don’t think this aspect of Iran’s response is getting enough coverage, myself. I recall seeing in the article I linked to that there are suspicions that Minnesota wasn’t the only state attacked, though the Times didn’t list the others. > [@Monty](#): > > He blames Governor Walz for it. Of course he does. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1700 "2026-08-04T15:27:49Z")
Trump wants Iran and Oman to make a deal to control the Strait of Hormuz with tolls: > **[An Emerging Deal Could Cement Iran’s Control of Strait of Hormuz](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/03/us/politics/strait-of-hormuz-possible-reopening-deal.html)** > > The deal would address President Trump’s most urgent political problem by allowing ships to move again. But it would give Iran strategic leverage it did not have before the war. So Trump started a war for no reason, lost the war, and handed over control of the Strait of Hormuz to Iran, indefinitely. Great job! For those who supported this war, was this all worth the cost in lives lost and billions spent? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1701 "2026-08-04T15:55:13Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > For those who supported this war Are you asking Netanyahu? ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1702 "2026-08-04T18:40:39Z")
Here’s updated reporting (Reuters via Yahoo! News) on how the US is running low on missiles: > **[Exclusive-US has used 'virtually all' of its long-range precision missiles...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/exclusive-us-used-virtually-long-100839538.html)** > > By Erin Banco, Mike Stone and Jonathan Landay NEW YORK/WASHINGTON, Aug 4 (Reuters) - The U.S. In the 1980’s Tom Clancy wrote a novel with a war scenario where the munitions were being expended at a much faster rate than expected. In the 90’s during the first Gulf War, analysts found that Mr. Clancy was correct in his prediction that this would happen. I assume this continued to be true in the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts although I don’t recall any specific stories about it (however according to five seconds of research, it did happen in both conflicts). ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1703 "2026-08-04T18:47:17Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > In the 1980’s Tom Clancy wrote a novel with a war scenario where the munitions were being expended at a much faster rate than expected. It’s not a new phenomenon. The same thing happened at the beginning of WWI and probably other wars as well. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1704 "2026-08-04T18:47:17Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I assume this continued to be true in the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts although I don’t recall any specific stories about it (however according to five seconds of research, it did happen in both conflicts). Iraq II and Afghanistan were very different wars. There wasn’t as much threat from long-range missiles once the countries were mostly occupied. The problems became those of occupying troops being targeted by ambushes, and later IEDs. But this new war with Iran is fundamentally different from all of them. Essentially no ground warfare, so it’s all missiles and drones, and that’s going to suck up interceptors like crazy. And Iran’s weapons are far cheaper and faster to build, so even if they can only maintain a fraction of their pre-war production capacity, even that small part is probably enough to suck up all the Patriot missiles the US can produce. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2026, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1705 "2026-08-05T03:43:11Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Essentially no ground warfare, so it’s all missiles and drones, and that’s going to suck up interceptors like crazy. And Iran’s weapons are far cheaper and faster to build … And of course, these developments would have been absolutely impossible for military strategists to wargame out prior to the conflict. /s ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2026, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1706 "2026-08-06T21:14:31Z")
Yet again planning to fight the last war. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2026, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1707 "2026-08-07T10:07:54Z")
[And now there’s a new regional alliance thanks to the vanity war.](https://www.aol.com/articles/saudi-arabia-turkey-pakistan-sign-073304000.html) > [@](#): > > KARACHI/RIYADH, Aug 7 - Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan will sign a joint defence agreement on Friday, regional sources with direct knowledge of the matter said, at a time of regional turmoil with Gulf states coming under fire from Iran after it was attacked by the U.S. and Israel. > > While the pact further cements a burgeoning grouping of major Sunni Muslim powers, there was no immediate clarity on each state’s commitments. > > A Turkish official confirmed the agreement will be signed. > > Turkey is a member of NATO. Saudi Arabia, another U.S. ally, is one of the world’s top oil exporters and the strongest Gulf state, while Pakistan is the only nuclear-armed Muslim country. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2026, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1708 "2026-08-08T20:05:39Z")
Iran issues demands for re-opening the Strait of Hormuz: > In a statement, Iran’s Supreme National Security Council said the U.S. must permanently end the war with Iran and its armed allies in the region, as well as vow to never threaten Iran again. The U.S. must also lift the naval blockade of Iranian ports and withdraw its military from the area, per the statement. The U.S. needs to “completely compensate” Iran for war damage, lift sanctions and “unconditionally” release frozen assets, as well. > **[Iran issues new demands, says Strait of Hormuz won't reopen until US...](https://fox4beaumont.com/news/nation-world/trump-pursues-iran-negotiations-as-new-strait-of-hormuz-attacks-raise-stakes-war-united-states-middle-east-oman-gasoline-gas-oil-fuel-nuclear-weapon-ceasefire-negotiations-peace-deal-israel-tehran-president-donald-trump)** > > Iran on Saturday issued new demands for reopening the Strait of Hormuz, saying the waterway will stay closed until the U.S. "corrects its behavior." ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2026, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1709 "2026-08-08T20:08:48Z")
So, in other words, the US must (nearly) unconditionally surrender to Iran. Not even unjustified, but I would not want to be the flunky trying to explain this to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2026, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1710 "2026-08-08T20:16:08Z")
All you’d have to say is: You know the demands we’re placing on Iran? Yeah, that. But the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2026, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1711 "2026-08-08T23:28:25Z")
I have to figure Iran knows Trump will never say yes to all that, no President would. So what is it they’re really looking for? Some subset of that? For Trump to be so apoplectic at these demands that Congress or the Cabinet finally ousts him? Something else? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2026, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1712 "2026-08-08T23:31:47Z")
I see several possibilities: 1. It’s a starting offer and they can lower their demands during negotiations. 2. They don’t care about Trump being willing to accept it, they have, or think they have, the upper hand and are going Michael Corleone on his ass. 3. They plan to negotiate once the U.S. government is sufficiently chastised or in hands or more rational people or both. 4. Some combination of all of the above. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=84) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=86)