# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\ **Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 88
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1755 "2026-08-20T04:39:36Z")
Supposedly, “An army travels on its stomach.” A navy, on the other hand, [is on its own](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-administration-covers-real-reason-193149663.html). (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > Despite five-time draft deferment recipient and current [U.S. President Donald Trump’s](https://www.jalopnik.com/2234688/trump-pulls-a-ghosn-sneaks-off-air-force-one/) assertion that [the Iran war](https://www.jalopnik.com/2178240/42-aircraft-pentagon-lost-in-iran/) would be over “pretty quickly” five months ago in [March](https://www.jalopnik.com/2117041/us-israeli-war-iran-automakers-life-hard/), his senseless war still persists. While Trump has been amassing obscene amounts of wealth via crypto-related business and other crooked means, hard-working and dedicated U.S. soldiers have borne the brunt of the war that [he and Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu started in late February.](https://www.jalopnik.com/2113389/us-israeli-war-iran-cost-gas/) We covered the miserable conditions that [sailors and Marines on the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) have been enduring for a record-setting 250 days at sea last week](https://www.jalopnik.com/2236596/multiple-crew-of-uss-abraham-lincoln-attempt-to-jump-overboard/), and now we know what’s causing those conditions: Iran bombed the main U.S. resupply base in the Gulf of Oman. > > [MS NOW’s senior national security reporter David Rhode said](https://www.ms.now/money-power-politics/watch/uss-lincoln-wasn-t-resupplied-because-hegseth-hid-that-iran-destroyed-main-u-s-base-rohde-2511362627825) that **the Lincoln wasn’t able to be resupplied because the base was destroyed by Iranian strikes, and that U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth chose not to make the news public despite having several opportunities to do so**. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1756 "2026-08-20T16:10:52Z")
You can take the man out of Faux news… Faux is notorious for what they leave out. Pete, you still got it! ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1757 "2026-08-20T18:47:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > **the base was destroyed by Iranian strikes, and that U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth chose not to make the news public despite having several opportunities to do so**. This is absolutely consistent with the Administration’s posture that we have NOT been, cannot have been, seriously harmed (and that it’s somehow treasonous to reveal anything’s going badly). ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1758 "2026-08-24T21:04:01Z")
In what can only be interpreted as a sign of the U.S. overwhelming strategic victory over Iran… > **[US threatens severe sanctions against countries with economic ties to Iran](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/24/us-severe-sanctions-economic-ties-iran?CMP=share_btn_url)** > > Washington launches campaign to isolate Tehran but it is unclear whether it will apply measures to China ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2026, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1759 "2026-08-25T02:47:14Z")
[Iran says there is a $10 million bounty on Barron.](https://www.aol.com/articles/iran-claims-10-million-bounty-143600000.html) > [@](#): > > Iranian state media has claimed there is a $10 million bounty on[Barron Trump](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/barron-trump-andrew-tristan-tate-yassamin-ansari-b3021874.html), President Donald Trump’s 20-year-old son, according to a new report nearly six months into[the U.S. war with Iran](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-us-war-live-trump-hormuz-power-plant-sanctions-b3037936.html). > > Footage broadcast on Channel 3, which is linked to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, was titled “Where and how should we kill Barron Trump?” _[Euronews](https://www.euronews.com/2026/08/24/iranian-state-tv-broadcasts-video-targeting-barron-trump-with-10m-bounty)_ reported Monday. > > It reportedly displayed the location of his university, as well as [Secret Service](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/natalie-harp-trump-letters-full-b3037066.html) positions and escort vehicles, while claiming his whereabouts were “fully monitored.” > > The clip also claimed that an unnamed young woman had evaded Secret Service protection, met privately with Barron Trump and relayed information about him to the video’s creators. It also claimed he uses Xbox to communicate privately. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1760 "2026-08-26T13:16:55Z")
‘I’ll make it $10,001,000, $10,002,000 if you include my… I mean his ugly daughter with the colored pencil collection.’ ~ John Barron ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1761 "2026-08-27T02:35:14Z")
Trump is claiming that all the mines are gone out of the Strait of Hormuz now: > **[Trump says Strait of Hormuz has been demined, warns Iran not to plant more](https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/trump-says-strait-hormuz-demined-150510817.html)** > > Aug 25 (Reuters) - U.S. I feel like this is absolutely impossible without getting into drone/fast boat/missile range of Iran so I am calling bullshit on this one. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1762 "2026-08-27T02:44:41Z")
It’s something Trump said, so it has an air of bullshit built right in. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1763 "2026-08-27T08:36:33Z")
Of course it is not demined, that would be technically impossible. But he claims it is, and warns Iran not to do it again (tut, tut!). So when a ship inevitably runs into a mine, he can claim Iran did it again and react in a silly way. Genius! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1764 "2026-08-27T10:49:39Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > But he claims it is, and warns Iran not to do it again (tut, tut!). So when a ship inevitably runs into a mine, he can claim Iran did it again and react in a silly way. Genius! But even if, in that oddest universe possible, Trump was telling the truth about it being de-mined, this is just another example of asymmetrical warfare, that seems to mostly be favouring Iran these days. Planting new mines is _way_ easier than tracking down and removing mines. Hell, you don’t even have to get the job completely done to be effective. The US could destroy the Iranian assets that are laying the mines, but even 50%, or just 10%, or 1% of the mines being laid still acts as a deterrent to shipping, and you _still_ have to sweep the whole damn straight to make sure you get rid of all of them. And the relative costs of both operations also favours the Iranians. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1765 "2026-08-27T11:17:59Z")
Relatively effective decoys have got to be cheaper to produce than actual mines, right? And for this situation, just about as effective? With the added bonus of playing “I’m not touching you” with the US. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2026, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1766 "2026-08-28T01:47:06Z")
[Let’s celebrate! Trump says the mission is accomplished.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-declares-mission-accomplished-iran-194900174.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump on Wednesday [declared “Mission Accomplished” in Iran](https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/26/world/live-news/iran-war-trump) even as the unpopular and costly war drags on with no end in sight and no sign that the United States is close to achieving any of the lofty goals he set for the conflict. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2026, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1767 "2026-08-28T02:02:54Z")
Oh, I’m glad that’s over. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2026, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1768 "2026-08-28T03:16:43Z")
Fantastic. Maybe this means sailors can stop jumping off ships now. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2026, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1769 "2026-08-28T03:21:12Z")
It occurs to me just now, _for him_, it is over. The mission, the distraction, the squirrel as I call it, has fully accomplished what he wanted or somehow realized at a base level, he needed it to do. And he doesn’t care a whit about the fallout, the actual consequences to others, or who has to clean up his mess. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2026, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1770 "2026-08-28T04:25:46Z")
So where are we on the victory count after six months? Five? Ten? Fifty? ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2026, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1771 "2026-08-28T05:10:19Z")
I don’t have a count for the number of times he’s already declared victory, but I’m fairly confident in predicting that he’ll do so again at least once as we get closer to the midterms in an attempt to manipulate last minute votes and headlines. He has been surrounded by so many sycophantic assholes and yes men his entire life that he thinks he can just insist upon a thing and everyone is supposed to capitulate to his insane whims. The notion that he can’t manipulate the realities of a war on the ground half a world away by fiat is a violation of his lived experience. This is just another blip on the timeline. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2026, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1772 "2026-08-28T15:22:59Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > So where are we on the victory count after six months? Five? Ten? Fifty? Back around the end of May, someone had gone through all his Truth postings and counted 39 claims of victory. By now I’m sure we’re over 50. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2026, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1773 "2026-08-28T15:51:11Z")
Yesterday I was hearing some talk radio panelist trying to fight the whole rest of the panel on how Trump had won while even the other RW leaning participants were trying to get him to understand: you really win when you have achieved your goals _and you stop fighting._ ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2026, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1774 "2026-08-28T15:54:34Z")
Trump keeps forgetting the essential second part of that claim: you declare victory _and you get out_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=87) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=89)