# United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, iran-strikes-2026\ **Created:** [February 28, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071 "2026-02-28T07:56:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 90
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1795 "2026-09-04T00:04:47Z")
I’m confused. Does this mean the Nobel Peace Prize laureate (pending) has successfully ended another war, or successfully started another one on his watch? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1796 "2026-09-04T00:12:04Z")
Both. Somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1797 "2026-09-04T01:38:30Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Me, Me, Me! Worst reboot of _Tora! Tora! Tora!_ Ever. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1798 "2026-09-04T01:41:17Z")
Trump really likes to have things named for him. Let’s name this mess for him. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1799 "2026-09-04T02:05:59Z")
Operation Epic Failure works for me. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1800 "2026-09-04T02:53:15Z")
Operation Trump’s Ignorant Folly. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1801 "2026-09-04T03:24:20Z")
**Moderating, if only just:** And I think we have enough of the jokes without other contribution, back to the topic please and thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1802 "2026-09-05T06:03:05Z")
[The guy who started the war has his own new name for it.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-says-iran-conflict-killed-190751157.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump on Friday labeled the Iran war “small potatoes,” the latest attempt to minimize a six-month conflict that caused a spike in gas prices and led to the deaths of 18 American service-members. > > “A lot of people don’t call it a war. I call it a military conflict because it’s small potatoes for us. It’s not a big thing,” he said in the Oval Office. > > A day earlier, Vice President JD Vance said the conflict [shouldn’t be termed a “war”](https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/03/politics/jd-vance-iran-war?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) since major combat operations ended months ago. _Small Potatoes_ it is. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1803 "2026-09-05T10:39:02Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > _Small Potatoes_ it is. Spending USD37bil to date on French Fries would seem to me to be excessive, YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1804 "2026-09-05T15:39:04Z")
You can now add environmental disaster to the list of Trump’s accomplishments in Iran [Three Iranian tankers struck in retaliation for missile attacks, US military says | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/05/middleeast/iran-us-tanker-kharg-intl) ---
**Author:** ![Mops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mops/32/16494_2.png) [@Mops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mops)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1805 "2026-09-05T16:05:25Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [The guy who started the war has his own new name for it.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-says-iran-conflict-killed-190751157.html) > > > [@](#): > > > > President Donald Trump on Friday labeled the Iran war “small potatoes,” the latest attempt to minimize a six-month conflict that caused a spike in gas prices and led to the deaths of 18 American service-members. > > > > “A lot of people don’t call it a war. I call it a military conflict because it’s small potatoes for us. It’s not a big thing,” he said in the Oval Office. > > > > A day earlier, Vice President JD Vance said the conflict [shouldn’t be termed a “war”](https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/03/politics/jd-vance-iran-war?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) since major combat operations ended months ago. > > _Small Potatoes_ it is. Why not go the whole hog and call it a _Special Military Operation_? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1806 "2026-09-05T18:17:05Z")
The attacks on Iran are causing an increase in oil prices- > **[Trump says 'Stupidity causes inflation' and threatens to stop trade with...](https://fortune.com/2026/09/05/trump-stupidity-inflation-trade-foreign-countries-retaliation-interest-rates/)** > > Trump declared it “crazy” that the stock markets fell Friday on inflation concerns. > “Success does not cause inflation. Stupidity causes inflation,” Trump vented in the Oval Office, as he declared it “crazy” that the stock markets fell Friday on inflation concerns. In general, most economists would disagree, but in this one special case of gas prices- he may be right. 🙀 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2026, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1807 "2026-09-06T00:20:46Z")
> [@Mops](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > _Small Potatoes_ it is. > > Why not go the whole hog and call it a _Special Military Operation_? Heck, let’s go way back to the 50’s and call it a _Police Action_. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1808 "2026-09-08T09:43:11Z")
[Guy who started the war now admits he has not won it.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-80-blows-favorite-lie-022638592.html) > [@](#): > > Donald Trump has acknowledged that the U.S. hasn’t won the war against Iran, despite having claimed otherwise dozens of times. > > Trump, 80, posted on Truth Social about the conflict, which he claimed at the outset would wrap up in “four to five weeks.” It has now lasted over six months. > > “Oil prices will drop precipitously, like everything else is dropping (but more!), when we WIN the war with Iran,” he [wrote](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/117232304514057261) on Monday. “Three Dollars a gallon, but ultimately, below Two Dollars a gallon. It will all happen quickly, and Iran will never have a Nuclear Weapon. MAGA!” ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1809 "2026-09-09T04:10:40Z")
Looks like the Iranians have captured an unmanned US Navy submarine. [https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-it-captured-us-submarine-drone-strait-hormuz-2026-09-08/](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-it-captured-us-submarine-drone-strait-hormuz-2026-09-08/) ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1810 "2026-09-09T05:24:26Z")
From the article: > In response, a Pentagon spokesperson said an ​underwater drone had “malfunctioned more than a day ago.” > > “It was surveying regional waters in support of ongoing operations. ‌The ⁠defective drone was an older model that neither collected sensitive data nor carried any classified sonar or radar equipment,” the spokesperson said. “That drone ain’t shit to us anyway” is great if you’re trying to deny the Iranians a win. But maybe the Iranians are winning because you’re using _useless drones_ against them. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1811 "2026-09-09T05:38:46Z")
That’s right enough. Just a bit more concerned that Hegseth’s Pentagon would issue a similarly dismissive communique if it was military personnel who’d been captured. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2026, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1812 "2026-09-09T05:39:27Z")
[I’ve lost track. Is the Strait open? Is it closed? Is it the Strait of Schrödinger?](https://www.aol.com/articles/us-strikes-iranian-tankers-more-204556000.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military said it destroyed five Iranian oil tankers on Tuesday in response to the latest attacks on its warships and Tehran hit back at American targets in Jordan, the latest burst of back-and-forth strikes that have lurched the sides back toward open hostilities in a more than 6-month-old war. > > Following the American strikes, Iran launched missiles toward U.S. targets in Jordan, Iranian state-run media said. Jordan’s military said its air defense systems intercepted 18 ballistic missiles launched toward its territory and two others fell in places where no one lives. It said it has no reports of casualties. Jordan is a staunch U.S. ally that hosts American forces, making the kingdom’s military bases a [target of repeat Iranian strikes](https://apnews.com/article/jordan-iran-us-strikes-8ea01b827305ea96b1b8dce1c3d0be67). U.S. Central Command said it had no information to offer. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1813 "2026-09-10T02:37:44Z")
[US forces sink more civilian ships.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/us-forces-destroy-five-iranian-235541589.html) > [@](#): > > U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces said they destroyed five Iranian crude oil carriers on Tuesday after the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) targeted a U.S. Navy warship with ballistic missiles twice over the past two days. > > Crude oil prices gained amid the latest development, even as CENTCOM said the U.S. warship evaded the attacks and continued to patrol regional waters, with no American personnel harmed. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2026, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1814 "2026-09-10T04:39:15Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > US forces sink more civilian ships. Most Iranian tankers are owned by the government, so “Civilian” may not be 100% correct. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=89) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071.md?page=91)