# United **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 12, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284 "2017-04-12T02:11:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/101 "2017-04-13T06:36:23Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Wait, we have a 911 Truther in our midsts? :dubious: I wouldn’t call myself a truther, but can you explain that photograph? It was taken on Sept. 11, 2001, at the crash site in Shanksville. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/102 "2017-04-13T06:41:09Z")
Just saw on the news that everyone on that flight is getting their ticket price refunded. Bystander trauma is already far more expensive than overbooking to avoid empty seats. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/103 "2017-04-13T12:17:57Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Ah yes, Flight 93 of popular folklore. The aircraft that disappeared into the 30 foot wide “soft ground” of Shanksville, Pennsylvania, with absolutely no evidence left behind apart from a burning patch of grass. > > [https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170413/3e94776dd0dc8ad245db7632edee6835.jpg](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170413/3e94776dd0dc8ad245db7632edee6835.jpg) > [@Chimera](#): > > Wait, we have a 911 Truther in our midsts? :dubious: > [@Biffster](#): > > I wouldn’t call myself a truther, but can you explain that photograph? It was taken on Sept. 11, 2001, at the crash site in Shanksville. I wouldn’t call myself a racist, but well, you know those blacks are just prone to committing more crime than us whites! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/104 "2017-04-13T12:52:23Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I wouldn’t call myself a truther, but can you explain that photograph? It was taken on Sept. 11, 2001, at the crash site in Shanksville. Here are two more photos of the same location on the same day: [![](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/16/85/62/16856266c299a3f6d29ffcfdc32271cd.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/16/85/62/16856266c299a3f6d29ffcfdc32271cd.jpg) [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a3/10/94/a31094d082974550db3efd924ac8224b.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a3/10/94/a31094d082974550db3efd924ac8224b.jpg) Your characterization of the crash site as “a patch of burning grass” is nonsense. Now kindly cut the truther crap. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/105 "2017-04-13T12:52:53Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I wouldn’t call myself a truther, but can you explain that photograph? It was taken on Sept. 11, 2001, at the crash site in Shanksville. Why don’t you explain it? All I can see if a low-res photograph of something in a field that appears like it might possibly relate to something that burned or exploded. Next to it are some vehicles, and some people are standing around. There are trees in the background. You have provided no context and no explanation of what the photograph is of, what angle it is shot from, what things might be in the vicinity not captured in this photo, or anything explaining what your point is. If you are making a point with this picture, explain it. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/106 "2017-04-13T14:18:40Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > The fact that you believe a business has a contractual obligation to do something doesn’t necessarily entitle you to remain on the premises of the business until that obligation is fulfilled. So you don’t have to be sitting on the plane? They can remove you from the flight until it arrives? ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/107 "2017-04-13T14:33:15Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I wouldn’t call myself a truther, but can you explain that photograph? It was taken on Sept. 11, 2001, at the crash site in Shanksville. Can you explain why you wouldn’t call yourself a truther? Ignoring the obvious is one of their character traits. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/108 "2017-04-13T16:07:37Z")
[Lawyer for United passenger: Dragging incident was more horrifying than when he fled Vietnam](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2017/04/13/lawyers-for-united-passenger-who-was-dragged-expected-to-speak-at-mid-morning-press-conference/) > [@](#): > > The incident sparked outrage and protests, including one held at O’Hare Thursday featuring Rev. Jesse Jackson. Fortunately this incident came along at a time when Rev Jackson desperately needed another boost in his ongoing struggle to appear relevant. ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/109 "2017-04-13T16:41:29Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > …There ought to be a law against forcibly removing a paid passenger from their seat unless they did something wrong other than refuse to be removed from their seat… As any normal, red-blooded American, it’s my duty to despise the airline industry, but I’m just asking, what if one of the laws already in existence wasn’t? § 91.533 Flight attendant requirements. (3) For airplanes having more than 100 passengers on board, two flight attendants plus one additional flight attendant for each unit (or part of a unit) of 50 passengers above 100. Unlike original reports from news outlets and political grandstanders like NJ Gov. Krispy Kreme, this wasn’t the result of overbooking, but United’s need to get employees to another airport. Having just been stranded for 30 hours in Savannah because of a crew shortage w/Delta, I question the regulations that require all commercial airlines to have a specified number of glorified cocktail waitresses who show passengers how to lock lock the seatbelt before leaving the ground. Maybe, just maybe, if airliners were only required to have one cabin attendant, this would have never happened. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/110 "2017-04-13T16:49:28Z")
> [@JohnBckWLD](#): > > As any normal, red-blooded American, it’s my duty to despise the airline industry, but I’m just asking, what if one of the laws already in existence wasn’t? > > § 91.533 Flight attendant requirements. > (3) For airplanes having more than 100 passengers on board, two flight attendants plus one additional flight attendant for each unit (or part of a unit) of 50 passengers above 100. > > Unlike original reports from news outlets and political grandstanders like NJ Gov. Krispy Kreme, this wasn’t the result of overbooking, but United’s need to get employees to another airport. Having just been stranded for 30 hours in Savannah because of a crew shortage w/Delta, I question the regulations that require all commercial airlines to have a specified number of glorified cocktail waitresses who show passengers how to lock lock the seatbelt before leaving the ground. Maybe, just maybe, if airliners were only required to have one cabin attendant, this would have never happened. They do more than just get your salted peanuts. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/111 "2017-04-13T18:46:57Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > [Lawyer for United passenger: Dragging incident was more horrifying than when he fled Vietnam](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2017/04/13/lawyers-for-united-passenger-who-was-dragged-expected-to-speak-at-mid-morning-press-conference/)Fortunately this incident came along at a time when Rev Jackson desperately needed another boost in his ongoing struggle to appear relevant. “Lawyer Wildly Exaggerates In Effort to Gain Sympathy With Potential Jurors-News At 11!” ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/112 "2017-04-13T19:20:09Z")
[Latest reports](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/united-passenger-david-dao-lawyer_us_58ef8daee4b0b9e98489f02b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009) (from a more than sensationalist source) indicate more than a bloody nose. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/113 "2017-04-13T20:03:11Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > “Lawyer Wildly Exaggerates In Effort to Gain Sympathy With Potential Jurors-News At 11!” “ **Czarcasm** knows the real truth of a situation he wasn’t present for-News at 11!” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/114 "2017-04-13T20:08:43Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > “ **Czarcasm** knows the real truth of a situation he wasn’t present for-News at 11!” > > 😉 I’m sorry-Do lawyers looking to influence potential jurors, win cases and big bucks work differently in your world? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/115 "2017-04-13T20:13:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > “Lawyer Wildly Exaggerates In Effort to Gain Sympathy With Potential Jurors-News At 11!” I’m willing to bet that the records of his treatment at the Chicago hospital will be introduced into evidence, if this thing gets that far. So even if the lawyer is exaggerating, it will come out. But this is probably not going to court. They’ll pay him money. The only question is how much. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/116 "2017-04-13T20:30:34Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I’m sorry-Do lawyers looking to influence potential jurors, win cases and big bucks work differently in your world? In my world, sometimes lawyers exaggerate. Sometimes they don’t have to. I don’t know which is the case here, but I defer to your psychic abilities, which you also demonstrated in the other thread. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/117 "2017-04-13T20:31:00Z")
It was a good thing that the airline didn’t (properly plan) offer the passengers a more lucrative reason to give up a seat. That was a well thought out strategic buisness decision. Hope they used that smart money in a way they’ll remember. Dumbfucks. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/118 "2017-04-13T20:38:26Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > [Latest reports](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/united-passenger-david-dao-lawyer_us_58ef8daee4b0b9e98489f02b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009) (from a more than sensationalist source) indicate more than a bloody nose. The inventory so far: 1 broken nose, 1 concussion, and 2 lost front teeth. I think I know what he wants for Christmas: a generous settlement. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/119 "2017-04-13T20:44:07Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > “Lawyer Wildly Exaggerates In Effort to Gain Sympathy With Potential Jurors-News At 11!” Actually the point I was making was how Rev Jackson was jumping onto the bandwagon to make sure his name stays in the news somewhere. The liberal Fred Phelps. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284/120 "2017-04-13T20:59:16Z")
Did anyone offer [these righteous dudes](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/6-muslim-imams-removed-from-plane/) money to leave their plane? Was there a large cash settlement afterwards? Did the CEO have his job threatened? Were regulations changed? Did anyone call for the abolishing of airport security? What about [this guy?](http://www.khaleejtimes.com/international/americas/muslim-man-removed-from-plane-for-saying-inshallah) What about [these women?](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/08/05/2-muslim-women-removed-from-plane-because-flight-attendant-felt/21445797/) Or my favorite-[This guy?](https://thewhistler.ng/story/nigerian-man-removed-from-uk-flight-over-prayer-message-on-his-phone) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united/784284.md?page=7)