# UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in Manhattan \[breaking news: 2024-12-04\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [December 4, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159 "2024-12-04T16:11:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/383 "2024-12-08T00:45:29Z")
Wizard of Id, not BC. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/384 "2024-12-08T00:45:59Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > From the comic strip, “BC:” Possibly pre-dated by Mel Brooks, in _History of the World: Part I_ (1981): > [@](#): > > [Count de Monet](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0466327/?ref_=ttqu_qu): It is said that the people are revolting. > [King Louis XVI](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000316/?ref_=ttqu_qu): You said it! They stink on ice! ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/385 "2024-12-08T00:46:01Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > From the comic strip, “BC:” Looks like “Wizard of Id”, by the same artist as “B.C.”. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/386 "2024-12-08T00:47:20Z")
Yes, that was _Wizard of Id._ ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/387 "2024-12-08T00:48:32Z")
Ack! I knew that!! Thanks for showing me the error of my ways 🙂 [And … sorry, Mel. We good??] ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/388 "2024-12-08T00:55:27Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Ack! No, that’s Cathy. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/389 "2024-12-08T00:56:57Z")
Allan Sherman got there earlier: > You came the wrong way, Old King Louie > Now we must put you on the shelf > That’s why the people are revolting, 'cause Louie, > You’re pretty revolting yourself! ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/390 "2024-12-08T01:11:12Z")
It would be hard to believe the cops _don’t_ know the shooter’s identity by now. Think about how many people know your face; do you really think not one of them would sell you out? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/391 "2024-12-08T01:20:33Z")
Maybe he looks too different all clean-shaven ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/392 "2024-12-08T01:23:54Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I cannot recall any investigation where the police faced such an uncooperative public. Tends to happen in minority/impoverished communities where the residents/possible witnesses don’t trust the police, especially when “snitches get stitches” applies. This seems to be more of a Ken McElroy kind of thing. > **[Ken McElroy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy)** > > Ken Rex McElroy (June 1, 1934 – July 10, 1981) was an American criminal and convicted attempted murderer who resided in Skidmore, Missouri, United States. He was known as "the town bully", and his unsolved killing became the focus of international attention. Over the course of his life, McElroy was accused of dozens of felonies, including assault, child molestation, statutory rape, arson, animal cruelty, hog and cattle rustling, and burglary. > In all, he was indicted 21 times but escaped convicti... ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/393 "2024-12-08T01:24:09Z")
Bloom County. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/394 "2024-12-08T01:41:51Z")
New theory. The supposed shooter was just a patsy. The real killer instructed and drilled him on how to clear a spent cartridge case and rechamber a new round. The gun was loaded blank, live, blank, live, blank, live. The blank rounds assured the gun wouldn’t properly cycle (not enough energy). The live rounds ejected confirmed to the shooter that he was doing things right. Meanwhile the real assassin is firing from some 300 yds away in a highrise under construction. He shoots when he see the puff from the blank - this matches the slight delay before the victim initially fell. This came to me in a dream - or maybe I saw it in a movie or a book but it fits; it’s airtight. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/395 "2024-12-08T02:23:17Z")
I think they’ve known who it was all along, but didn’t identify him because they didn’t want him to flee. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/396 "2024-12-08T02:23:46Z")
Turns out the backpack had nothing in it but Monopoly money. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:3oh3u4fbev3zlc7vcfdazlas/bafkreicwhh3t5eer4d4cinerxvbopcbbsgxdvyvscpwyk6yzf3y7axdvzi@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:3oh3u4fbev3zlc7vcfdazlas/bafkreicwhh3t5eer4d4cinerxvbopcbbsgxdvyvscpwyk6yzf3y7axdvzi@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/397 "2024-12-08T02:32:17Z")
If he draws a Get Out of Jail Free card, we’re screwed. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/398 "2024-12-08T02:33:41Z")
An “Advance to GO Collect $200” community chest card would’ve been a nice touch. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/399 "2024-12-08T05:46:57Z")
[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_70,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_100,w_93,c_scale/v200/c544c70d-664a-4233-9602-b1d56d54e1a3) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_70,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_100,w_93,c_scale/v200/c544c70d-664a-4233-9602-b1d56d54e1a3) ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/400 "2024-12-08T06:26:12Z")
There was a shooter lookalike contest in New York Saturday. [UnitedHealthcare CEO Shooting Suspect Lookalike Contest Highlights Deep Divide](https://www.tmz.com/2024/12/07/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-suspect-lookalike-contest-in-nyc/) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/401 "2024-12-08T07:26:06Z")
I’m reminded of the climax of The Batman where Gotham’s disaffected dress up in Riddler costumes and attack the people taking shelter in the arena after he blows up the seawall. Hopefully there were fewer casualties at this event. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159/402 "2024-12-08T17:11:00Z")
Nothing released is solidified yet, but the NYPD believes the shooter came to NYC on. Bus that originated in Atlanta. There is an extreme leftist element in Atlanta where such an act could have taken shape. You may recall last year’s cop city situation: Atlanta had set aside some of its ever-shrinking natural woods as a preserve, then reneged and planned to build a huge world class law enforcement training camp. Protesters occupied the area in tents, and the state troopers, their body cameras shut off, shot a pepper grenade into one during a clearance operation. Claiming the protester inside shot back four times, he himself absorbed 57 bullets (more than 12 constitutes a “hail”). The Georgia Bureau of Investigation, as somehow separate part of the same state law enforcement organization as the troopers, found no error in the encounter. Could there be a connection? I dunno. But revenge is a burning fire in the breast of the young and idealistic. And cowardice is natural to all humans, so a CEO heading to his continental breakfast is a better target than a trooper armed to the teeth. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-in-manhattan-breaking-news-2024-12-04/1011159.md?page=21)